Twins 5, Tigers 7: Sanchez, Miranda, Urshela Home Runs Not Enough as Twins Lose on Memorial Day

Frustrating loss.  Count me in the camp of patience wearing very thin with Bundy.  Yes, there was some weak contact, but several poorly located pitches in the 3 batter sequence when DET scored 2 runs to tie game at 3-3 after Miranda's HR gave Twins the lead.  I'm still a believer in Smith's ability to be a solid contributor in our pen.  If Sanchez had made a quicker tag on Schoop, Candelario never advances to second base.  Moreover, if Miranda makes an accurate throw (on a tough play) or holds onto the ball, imo, there's a decent chance Smith gets out of the inning unscathed.  

I realize games like this will happen, but with a DH tomorrow and Kepler still unavailable, I have to ask the question to Rocco?  Why are BOTH Buxton and Correa out of the lineup today??  I will be shocked to see both play both games of the DH tomorrow.

1 more question: Any injury update on Winder?  Since Rocco hung him out to dry in OAK two weeks ago, I know he's been on IL with a shoulder impingement.

Blunderfest today, on the bases and in the field. 

56 minutes ago, darwin22 said:

Frustrating loss.  Count me in the camp of patience wearing very thin with Bundy.  Yes, there was some weak contact, but several poorly located pitches in the 3 batter sequence when DET scored 2 runs to tie game at 3-3 after Miranda's HR gave Twins the lead.  I'm still a believer in Smith's ability to be a solid contributor in our pen.  If Sanchez had made a quicker tag on Schoop, Candelario never advances to second base.  Moreover, if Miranda makes an accurate throw (on a tough play) or holds onto the ball, imo, there's a decent chance Smith gets out of the inning unscathed.  

I realize games like this will happen, but with a DH tomorrow and Kepler still unavailable, I have to ask the question to Rocco?  Why are BOTH Buxton and Correa out of the lineup today??  I will be shocked to see both play both games of the DH tomorrow.

1 more question: Any injury update on Winder?  Since Rocco hung him out to dry in OAK two weeks ago, I know he's been on IL with a shoulder impingement.

Agreed, Miranda needs to just hold onto that ball and not try to get too cute. As far as Correa and Buxton, Rocco strikes again. 

A frustrating loss, but at least we didn't blow out the bullpen too much more...

Lots of mistakes by the young guys.  Got a feeling it is going to be a long couple weeks.  Hopefully Celestino will soon be back.  Expect Gordon is gonna have to play shortstop with Correa out.

13 minutes ago, roger said:

Lots of mistakes by the young guys.  Got a feeling it is going to be a long couple weeks.  Hopefully Celestino will soon be back.  Expect Gordon is gonna have to play shortstop with Correa out.

Yup I think you are correct.  

Well looks like Gordon will be our shortstop.  Inspite of many calling to cut ties with him and dealing him unnecessary.  Probably the same ones calling for Lewis to be called up to play any position.  I know hindsight is 20/20.  But, lots of short sighted takes on here.  He could have been filling in for Correa tomorrow.  Sometimes the loudest voices are the wrong ones.

i am one that is amongst others that are starting to wonder about all the days off for buxton and / or correa. i'm prone to injury as well but if i missed as many days or was given as maybe days off my co-workers would be getting tired of me. he's a great player but the team needs him in the field and at the plate. his average is awful right now. it's not going to get any better if you don't get the swings in.

A sad game - if it were the only one it would be no big deal, but after KC, we cannot continue to give away the games against the bottom feeders.  

I do not blame Miranda.  I do not excuse Bundy.  I do not understand the roster construction. 

I really don't see what the FO sees in Cole Sands in regard to these spot starts.

He has been HORRIBLE even for St. Paul! 0-4, 7.23 ERA, 15 earned in 18.2 innings, average against of 3.11. 

His very small MLB sample (4 innings) not much better. Is this our depth? This is all we got from the infamous pitching pipeline? 

https://www.milb.com/player/cole-sands-663485?stats=gamelogs-r-pitching-mlb

1 hour ago, roger said:

Lots of mistakes by the young guys.  Got a feeling it is going to be a long couple weeks.  Hopefully Celestino will soon be back.  Expect Gordon is gonna have to play shortstop with Correa out.

Agreed. I like Gordon more off the bench, not starting, but no other choices right now. Fingers crossed Gray and Ryan are back soon, and if so, it seems a good time for one of Bundy or Archer to move to the pen. Leaves the problem with #'s in rotation, but we haven't seen a quality start from either of them for some time, and probably should not expect its going to get any better. Maybe those two combo for 6 innings, but I dont trust them 2 times through a batting order at this point.  Maybe Sands can show something tomorrow. Smeltzer deserves a long look, he has earned a chance to stick around this time. Depth looks good one day, then an injury or two, and suddenly not so much. This has the makings of an ugly two week stretch.

So much for a 20-win month.

2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

Correa wasn't held out for covid reasons.

 

Agree they can't play defense like that and win. 

The poor baserunning that's been present a lot this year also bit them today.

Yes...he was sent back to hotel for covid testing.  Not exactly sure were you get your info.  But I would fire you're source.

I was watching the game today, and all of a sudden everything got a 2021 taste. Unreliable pitching, defensive blunders and COVID related issues. I hope it changes soon.

11 minutes ago, Nate Palmer said:

 

I would think, just like today, Polanco may temporarily be moved over there. Unless there is some other reports that I missed that would impact 

Very possible.  I am just thankfull we held onto Gordon as opposed to listing to the crowds wanting to DFA him.  He will be very helpful over the next couple weeks and long term

Whatever, at some point, when Buxton plays, he needs to hit the ball hard and make things happen.

Twins can't have him hovering around .200 again, striking out, popping out, making outs.

It's been like a month.

Either he is or he isn't a guy who wins us games.

A hundred million can't flouder like this.

1 hour ago, Old Twins Cap said:

Whatever, at some point, when Buxton plays, he needs to hit the ball hard and make things happen.

Twins can't have him hovering around .200 again, striking out, popping out, making outs.

It's been like a month.

Either he is or he isn't a guy who wins us games.

A hundred million can't flouder like this.

You know Buxton is only making 9 million this year right?

19 hours ago, darwin22 said:

BOTH Buxton and Correa out of the lineup today??

Is it possible they are sitting Buxton so he won't hit the number of games or at  bats to get to his incentives?  I don't remember specifics, just that he needs a certain number of games or at bats to hit his max.   They are not playing him to his potential (seriously DH'ing him when he is the star center fielder).  Seems he is off at least every 3rd game?  He can't get on a roll or hot streak like this IMO.  All and all it is ridiculous.  I won't buy tickets again because part of the fun of the game is to see him on the bases or making the great plays in center field.  Just getting old that's all.  

23 hours ago, se7799 said:

Probably the same ones calling for Lewis to be called up to play any position.  I know hindsight is 20/20.  But, lots of short sighted takes on here.  He could have been filling in for Correa tomorrow.  Sometimes the loudest voices are the wrong ones.

So the Twins were wrong for wanting one of their best offensive players back in the lineup? Positional versatility is now a negative? We know Lewis wasn't an injury risk at a physically demanding position like SS? Oh and they had to know Correa was going to test positive within days of recalling Lewis? Speaking of myopic takes...

Just now, KirbyDome89 said:

So the Twins were wrong for wanting one of their best offensive players back in the lineup? Positional versatility is now a negative? We know Lewis wasn't an injury risk at a physically demanding position like SS? Oh and they had to know Correa was going to test positive within days of recalling Lewis? Speaking of myopic takes...

Honestly no, not wrong.  Just an unfortunate happening.

4 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

So the Twins were wrong for wanting one of their best offensive players back in the lineup? Positional versatility is now a negative? We know Lewis wasn't an injury risk at a physically demanding position like SS? Oh and they had to know Correa was going to test positive within days of recalling Lewis? Speaking of myopic takes...

That's why I said hindsight being 20/20..  Thankyou for your myopic take though.

27 minutes ago, se7799 said:

Honestly no, not wrong.  Just an unfortunate happening.

23 minutes ago, se7799 said:

That's why I said hindsight being 20/20..  Thankyou for your myopic take though.

You lumped Royce Lewis playing a different position to get back as quickly as possible in with "cut Nick Gordon." No idea why you'd do that, particularly if you agree his injury is simply unfortunate timing.

FWIW, the points I made previously are quite the opposite of myopic, they all take into account a view that stretches beyond the last 2 weeks or so.