Trade Eduardo Nunez: Would You?

  On 6/24/2016 at 3:54 AM, Danchat said:

No, Butera got us Miguel Sulbaran (who was traded for Eduardo Nunez the next season). Ryan Doumit was traded for Sean Gilmartin.

Thank you for correcting me. Unintentionally, your correct information strengthens the point of my post, which is that we have superior assets to Herrmann, Butera, and Doumit now available in trade, and may not have to virtually give them away.

I believe this franchise is at a stage where it's a futile move to take the next Logan Darnell in return for guys like Nunez and Plouffe. If they can't secure a low-minors prospect or two with high-risk/high-return profiles, it's a bad trade.

  On 6/23/2016 at 9:09 PM, Vanimal46 said:

That is true, Plouffe has a longer track record than Nunez. The team that would acquire either or of these players are just looking at them as rentals for the next 3-4 months. That's why I'm skeptical why a team would prefer Plouffe's .662 OPS over Nunez's .816. 

Agree.

To be perfectly honest, if it were me I would trade three infielders, Plouffe Nunez and Dozier, replacing them with Sano, Polanco and Beresford. And I'd hope to heaven that those three would bring at least something in the form of decent prospects.

The Twins need pitching.  Of course I'd trade Nunez.  The only players I'd keep right now on the 25-man roster are Sano, Buxton and Kepler. All of our veterans are disposable.  If one of them is hot, trade them NOW to a team that's in the playoff hunt for anything that smells like a pitcher or a catcher.

What's Nunez on track to make in 2017 via arbitration? 

  On 6/27/2016 at 1:56 AM, Shaitan said:

What's Nunez on track to make in 2017 via arbitration? 

Don't know.  Not much.

You can get value only for players that are wanted.  That is why Nunez should be traded(value = cheap(more clubs in play)),  can play multiple positions(great for the versatility advocates), and playing well.  Should be able to get a decent prospect for him(maybe as much as a B or B-) 

  On 6/27/2016 at 12:58 PM, beckmt said:

You can get value only for players that are wanted.  That is why Nunez should be traded(value = cheap(more clubs in play)),  can play multiple positions(great for the versatility advocates), and playing well.  Should be able to get a decent prospect for him(maybe as much as a B or B-)

 

If no one in the league equates playing SS and 3B poorly with defensive versatility and the best offer is a C/C+ prospect with a rule 5 decision coming up, do you take the best offer?

The Mets gave up a C+ prospect and a prospect outside the top 20 for Juan Uribe (and Kelly Johnson) last year. John Gant was up for rule 5. He was recently called up to the majors. At the time Sickels wrote that he was a innings eating 5th starter type. The other player, Whalen, had a better ceiling but also a likelihood of a back end starter or bullpen arm.

Uribe is an excellent defensive 3B and was hitting well. I would think his overall game has more value in helping a team reach the playoffs. Kelly Johnson had an OPS of .772 at the time of the trade. Both guys were key players for the Mets in the second half. Their return was good but not the level many on this site are hoping for Nunez. The Twins might expect one of those two for Nunez.

Do you trade Nunez for a guy who projects to be a back end starter with the need to be put on the 40 in the winter?

  On 6/27/2016 at 2:32 PM, jorgenswest said:

If no one in the league equates playing SS and 3B poorly with defensive versatility and the best offer is a C/C+ prospect with a rule 5 decision coming up, do you take the best offer?

The Mets gave up a C+ prospect and a prospect outside the top 20 for Juan Uribe (and Kelly Johnson) last year. John Gant was up for rule 5. He was recently called up to the majors. At the time Sickels wrote that he was a innings eating 5th starter type. The other player, Whalen, had a better ceiling but also a likelihood of a back end starter or bullpen arm.

Uribe is an excellent defensive 3B and was hitting well. I would think his overall game has more value in helping a team reach the playoffs. Kelly Johnson had an OPS of .772 at the time of the trade. Both guys were key players for the Mets in the second half. Their return was good but not the level many on this site are hoping for Nunez. The Twins might expect one of those two for Nunez.

Do you trade Nunez for a guy who projects to be a back end starter with the need to be put on the 40 in the winter?

No you trade him for an A+ or A player who has a bigger upside.  There is no reason to trade Nunez without this type of return.

  On 6/24/2016 at 3:51 PM, ashburyjohn said:

They've been anointing guys The Next Logan Darnell for years now. Can anyone really predict The Next Logan Darnell?

Well duh. Sam Clay.

  On 6/24/2016 at 4:08 PM, TheLeviathan said:

We should ask Logan Darnell.  It might even deserve it's own place among Ryan's advisors when he retire.  I'm sure he'd accept a cushy job predicting future Triple A LOOGEYs that are occasionally, mistakenly thought to be valuable or even starters.

Hell, they don't need to pay someone an exorbitant hourly wage for that information when we can just fire it over the internet to them.

I mean, who among us doesn't know that David Hurlbut is the next Pat Dean and that Domenick Carlini is the next Jason Wheeler?

Nunez potentially blocks younger players, e.g., Polanco, from getting at bats. That is reason enough to trade him. A win or two this year and next year have no meaning.

  On 6/27/2016 at 2:02 PM, spycake said:

Good question!  Nunez is making $1.48 mil this year.  While his good performance this year will boost it, arb increases seem relative to previous salary too.  Probably $3-4 mil for Nunez next year, depending on his second half?

That makes it even tougher. I'm starting to think his performance is real, given his bat in 2015 being solid as well. But on this team, trade him if it's a real offer, keep him if it's pittance. 

He's got hustle, skip.

  On 6/28/2016 at 5:15 AM, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

I'd keep Nunez. His glove and arm are generally suspect (which depresses his value) but he can back up several positions and occasionally does something amazing out in the field. And he has spark as a hitter and base runner. Good complementary player and good find.

He's a fine example of a truly valuable utility IF who doesn't disappoint if he has to play more than a utility guy would normally be called to do.  A guy like that has value.