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    Seth Stohs

    Happy Trade Deadline Day, Twins Fans! This should be a fun day as the Twins find themselves Buyers at the deadline for the first time in a decade. I fully expect the Twins to acquire at least one pitcher before today’s 3 p.m. (central time) deadline, but what if they don’t? What if they stand pat?

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    On Tuesday night, Cleveland finally traded All Star starting pitcher Trevor Bauer. Typically that move would be seen as the team selling, but in this case, I do believe that they got better. They have pitching, and seem to keep calling pitchers up who do well. Shane Bieber and Zach Plesac are two guys who fit into that mold. They also should be getting Corey Kluber back in the near future.

    Their need was offense, and they added two powerful outfielders in Yasiel Puig and Franmil Reyes in the three-team swap. They also added LHP Logan Allen, a Top 100 prospect, and two more minor leaguers.

    It was a very creative move for Cleveland. The Twins were very creative in their acquisition of Sergio Romo over the weekend. Not only did the Twins receive the veteran reliever, but they also received hard-throwing RHP Chris Vallimont and a Player to be Named Later for slugging first base prospect Lewin Diaz.

    On its own, the Twins made a really, creative, savvy move to improve their bullpen and improve the team. Twins fans have generally felt that the trade was good for the Twins, though that thought always comes with the “as long as it isn’t the only move they make by the deadline.”

    But what if it is? What if Sergio Romo is the only player that the Twins add? What will it mean? Here are my thoughts.

    DISAPPOINTMENT

    First and foremost, Twins fans will and rightfully should feel disappointment. On the basic level, it’s always fun to acquire talent. It doesn’t even have to be elite talent, but just make the team better. Let's just say, #TwinsTwitter will not handle it well, for sure!

    On another level, Derek Falvey and Thad Levine have consistently said that when the Twins window to compete for championships opens, they will pounce. Well, the window is wide open. This team has the talent to compete, not only for the American League Central title but also for a World Series. They have won two of six games against the Yankees this year, and probably should have won two more of those games. They won four of their seven matchups with the Astros this year. They currently have an edge on Cleveland this year too. Those are the top teams in the American League, and the team should absolutely feel like they can compete for an American League pennant. And hey, if you get to the World Series, you have a chance.

    So Twins fans will absolutely have every right to be disappointed and even upset if nothing is done.

    HOWEVER…

    This is a very good team as is, as shown by their performance so far this year against the top teams in the league. Their lineup can compete with anyone. They can slug with the best. Pitching has been the issue although even that hasn’t been as bad as we may think. The starters rank in the top the top third of the league in most statistics. Some of that is because their #4 (Perez) and #5 (Pineda) have been better than most 4s and 5s around the league. Jose Berrios is approaching Ace level. Jake Odorizzi was an All Star for his strong start, but he has been more inconsistent of late. Kyle Gibson’s been good at times but also a bit inconsistent. Not adding a starter would just mean that these guys would need to step it up down the stretch. But would the Twins have a top three or top four that you could feel good about going into the playoffs?

    And the bullpen has been better than expected, though a lot of that is because of Taylor Rogers. Sergio Romo stepped in as the 8th inning guy last night in his Twins debut. Tyler Duffey has returned to an intriguing bullpen option. Ryne Harper has been a big surprise. Trevor May was doing well until the 0-2 curveball in Cleveland, but he has the stuff to dominate and will need to find that again.

    And then some young guys. Cody Stashak had a moment in the Yankees series. Sean Poppen reeling off 96-97 mph fastballs with a strong slider could be great for the team down the stretch. And if Will Smith and Felipe Vasquez are unavailable, I don’t think there is an available left-handed reliever that I would feel better about than giving Lewis Thorpe an opportunity. And Devin Smeltzer is available as well. The concern with them is their lack of MLB experience, obviously.

    In addition, Fernando Romero has been much improved of late in Rochester. And as it appears the odds of Cody Allen helping the Twins down the stretch is waning, flamethrower Brusdar Graterol returned to the mound on Monday for his first rehab appearance. Maybe he and his 101-mph fastball can help. Jorge Alcala and his triple-digit fastball pitched out of the bullpen in his most-recent outing.

    SUMMARY

    So, while I still think it is very likely that the Twins make one or two moves before the trade deadline, and this article will be all for naught, it is important for Twins fans to stand by a team that has put themselves in this position. Absolutely, be disappointed that nothing was done, but hopefully you’ll be able to quickly shift your attention back to the fact that this team, as it is currently put together, can win the division. And, if you are under the opinion (as I mostly am) that the playoffs are mostly a crapshoot, then you should still believe that the Twins can win in the playoffs too.

    All that said… Come On, Twins… Make a Move!

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      On 7/31/2019 at 7:09 PM, Doomtints said:

    Wasn't Diplan DFA'd? The Twins could have made this move anytime.

    Diplan was DFA'd, but teams won't be able to trade for those guys after the deadline. Only waiver claims at that point.

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      On 7/31/2019 at 7:10 PM, FormerMinnasotan said:

    Just watch: Twins make no further moves, lose AL Central to Cleveland, miss Wild Card as A’s and Rays surge over a Twins team that from here on out loses steam. Next year we miss out on the playoffs with a pedestrian 81-81 record.

     

    If that happens, you have to wonder what Falvey and Levine would have done to justify keeping their jobs...

     

    2017 - they cut bait with a team too early and it turned into Major League. Trying to win despite the front office not thinking you can.

     

    2018 - a step back.

     

    2019 - total collapse / choke job.

     

    Then again, when ownership is this stingy and disinterested, I guess it doesn't matter who runs the front office. Figure heads.

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    Interesting with the August waiver/trade month disappearing. 

     

    Now you have to WANT to trade an asset. The msot popular assets to trade, when teams MIGHT seem desperate, are pending free agents, and prospects that are needing to be added to the 40-man roster.

     

    Even if your team is not in contention, there is NO NEED to trade players you still control, unless you see arbittration year two (or especially year three) being enormously expensive.

     

    If teams are truly dumping potential free agent assets, anything goes. Be interesting to see who does move in the last minutes for something, anything.

     

    Otherwise, will be curious to see what happens in August with high priced players/free-agents to be. Would, say, the Diamondbacks put Grienke out there just to rid themselves of the contract and would someone grab that contract (does that supercede any "no trade" clauses)? 

     

    Some teams are being crafty (Mets for one). Some are just picking up sub-pieces to patch some holes. The Bauer trade was unique, but it would be like the Mets trading Sven for Byron, each team would be getting something they need for now AND the future, not just taking a gamble on prospects THAT MAY NEVER PAN OUT.

     

    July 31 might just be TO EARLY for teams to pull the plug. Are you forcing teams, instead, to keep their players (or release them outright) in order to tank going into late August and all of September? Will this "new" trade guideline actually create a better free agent market for the future (trying to still run that around the brain). Instead, you seem to just be trading $$$$, transferring payload from one team to another short term. Some teams signing low-end free agents seem to be getting soemthing abck in the deal. Some who did it (like our Twins), just saw the guys linger and then grabbed for modest cash return (Twins basically got money or money relief from the losses of Morin, Magill, Parker, Mejia...all of whom seemed to have some merit for signing with another team, but not enough to bring back a low-level player even). 

     

    The only frustration with the Twins is that they MIGHT NOT be able to turn prospects on the cusp of need-to-be-added-to-40-man with no room, or potentially a free agent, or maybe being passed over in the pecking order (Gonsalves, Romero, Gordon, Wade come as an example). But these are far from the marquee prospects someone would wish to trade anything of substance, with the thought that they might just be available for little or nothing by the time next season rolls around.

     

     

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      On 7/31/2019 at 7:10 PM, FormerMinnasotan said:

    Just watch: Twins make no further moves, lose AL Central to Cleveland, miss Wild Card as A’s and Rays surge over a Twins team that from here on out loses steam. Next year we miss out on the playoffs with a pedestrian 81-81 record.

    Can we let anything play out before doomsday predictions,? 

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      On 7/31/2019 at 7:05 PM, spycake said:

    I guess Diplan can take Lewin Diaz's place in this offseason's 40-man crunch.

    Should be fewer 'hard' choices at Diplan's position than Diaz's position, though. Diplan will have a couple of months to audition to keep his 40-man spot at a position of need, and it didn't cost anything. Not what this thread is about, but good nevertheless.

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      On 7/31/2019 at 7:10 PM, nicksaviking said:

    So Marcos Diplan is a different human being than Mauricio Dubon who the Brewers traded earlier today.

     

    It took me a couple of minutes to figure all of this out.

    Hopefully the front office figures out faster than that -- we're on the clock here, people! :)

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      On 7/31/2019 at 7:13 PM, jkcarew said:

    Should be fewer 'hard' choices at Diplan's position than Diaz's position, though. Diplan will have a couple of months to audition to keep his 40-man spot at a position of need, and it didn't cost anything. Not what this thread is about, but good nevertheless.

    More like 1 month left to audition, unless he comes up to Minnesota in September, which seems like a longshot given his AA numbers.

     

    Kind of a crowd too for pitchers, no? We're still auditioning/rotating quite a few ahead of Diplan...

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    I don't see much trading happening by the Twins or anyone else.  Maybe there will be a flurry, but the asking prices are too high for a lot of teams to mortgage the future for a maybe.

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      On 7/31/2019 at 7:12 PM, Riverbrian said:

    I wonder who took the Diplan phone call. 

     

    With an hour left on the clock... I'm hoping that Falvey or Lavine are not spending time wrapping up the Diplan deal.  :)

     

    If I was going to b a pessimist, I'd say they wanted this guy, but not until they knew they weren't going to fill the three remaining 40-man spots today. 

     

    Still got two open spots though. Minor and Leclerc.

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