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    Tom Schreier

    I wanted to stay in a Twins uniform, and I want to win. And we’re definitely headed in the right direction.

    — Joe Mauer after signing an eight-year, $184 million contract in 2010

    All of the vitriol aimed at Joe Mauer right now would have been directed, ten-fold, at Twins management if they had not retained him in 2010. Minnesota had just opened a new publicly-subsidized park, they were coming off a year in which they had won the AL Central and Mauer was named MVP. He was an anomaly: a defensively-sound catcher and a batting champ.

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    It would have been hypocritical for an organization to say that they need a new ballpark to retain the players that they developed, while on the other hand letting their best prospect in years, a St. Paul native, sign with an East Coast team, just as Chuck Knoblauch, Johan Santana and David Ortiz had before him.

    It’s worth putting all this into perspective five years later when Mauer, now a first baseman, is the most important topic heading into this year’s offseason. The hometown hero became the local scapegoat after suffering bilateral leg weakness in 2011, presumably from years of catching behind the plate, and a career-altering concussion in late 2013. He was an All-Star catcher then, hitting .324/.404/.476 at the time of the injury. Now he’s a light-hitting first baseman.

    Lost in the howling about Mauer is that the Twins essentially wasted his prime years, at least the part of them in which he was under the mammoth contract, by putting a Triple-A caliber roster around him. Following the 94-win season in the first year at Target Field, which resulted in yet another sweep at the hand of the New York Yankees in the ALDS, there was a mass exodus of talent: Michael Cuddyer, Denard Span, Francisco Liriano and even Mauer’s best buddy, Justin Morneau, all left during the bleak years.

    Poor management contributed greatly to the team’s streak of four 90-loss seasons. Wilson Ramos, a young catcher who the team could use right now, was famously dealt for inept closer Matt Capps. J.J. Hardy was offloaded for two minor league pitchers who never surfaced, leaving a gaping hole at shortstop. There was the failed Tsuyoshi Nishioka experiment, and the jury is still out on the Denard Span trade, as one-time blue-chip starting prospect Alex Meyer struggled this season and was moved to the bullpen.

    Mauer was criticized in his catching days for not hitting for enough power, but in an age where on-base percentage is properly coveted, having a catcher that reached base 40 percent of the time was worth every penny: he sold jerseys, he didn’t have off-the-field issues and the worst anyone could say about him is that he was boring. In many ways, in 2012 and 2013, he was one of the only reasons to come to Target Field.

    Things changed for the better, of course, last season, and suddenly Mauer has gotten lost in the mix. In fact, if it were not for his $23 million salary, he probably wouldn’t even be part of the conversation when it comes to the Twins. He isn’t a vocal member of the locker room, at least not when it comes to the media. His .265/.338/.380 line is rather pedestrian for a first baseman. He isn’t young and full of potential like Miguel Sano, Eddie Rosario or Byron Buxton. He didn’t fill a major team need in the second half of the season like Eduardo Escobar. And he doesn’t have the personality and charm of Torii Hunter or Brian Dozier.

    He also isn’t as detrimental to the team as he’s made out to be. While he was greatly overpaid for his production over the past two seasons, the Twins are getting players like Sano, Buxton and Rosario on the cheap — just like they did with Mauer before his big contract. And that’s the point of retaining homegrown talent. It’s not like the Ervin Santana or Ricky Nolasco deals where they spent their young and cheap years with other teams. The Twins got value for Mauer at one point. The question is if, over the course of his time in Minnesota, it will all even out.

    The draft-and-development system works, in theory, as long as a team doesn’t do what the Twins did in the Metrodome years: develop players for bigger-market clubs. Some contracts will pan out, others will not. Context is always lost in these situations, and it’s important to remember that Mauer’s contract is not unique in Major League Baseball. In fact, in order to build a championship team, clubs must take measured risk with players in their prime.

    In August of this year, ESPN created a list of the ten worst contracts in baseball (Insider required). Mauer was listed at No. 9 behind the likes of CC Sabathia, Robinson Cano, Matt Kemp and Albert Pujols. Two teams had two players ahead of him: the Detroit Tigers (Justin Verlander, Miguel Cabrera) and the Texas Rangers (Prince Fielder, Shin-Soo Choo).

    Mauer is in no way preventing the Twins from spending. Phil Hughes is on a five-year, $58 million deal (with the extension). Santana was signed for four years, $55 million in the offseason. Nolasco is halfway through a four-year, $49 million pact. Glen Perkins and Brian Dozier, the team’s two All-Stars this year, are homegrown players who were retained. And even with all those contracts, Minnesota opened the year with a $108.95 million payroll, 18th in the league behind teams like the Baltimore Orioles, Kansas City Royals and Cincinnati Reds.

    Twins GM Terry Ryan insists that payroll will not be an issue in the offseason, and is quick to point out that the Pittsburgh Pirates, who won 98 games this year, opened the year with a $88.28 million payroll — the sixth-lowest in major league baseball. Granted, Pittsburgh will have to spend more if they want to retain their best players, but it also is worth noting that three of the five teams with the highest payrolls — the Boston Red Sox, Detroit Tigers and San Francisco Giants — didn’t make the playoffs this season, and the Yankees, No. 2 in spending behind the Los Angeles Dodgers, were eliminated in a one-game playoff by the Houston Astros (No. 29, $70.91 million).

    Payroll isn’t everything, but it is an important component of the Mauer conversation. First of all, while signing him was a no-brainer in 2010, it goes without saying that they would not offer him a three-year, $69 million extension if his contract would have expired this year. But that is neither here nor there: Players are signed for what they are worth at the time that they hit free agency and the same logic applies to their up-and-coming players right now.

    Sano will eventually have to get signed, as will Buxton, Rosario, Aaron Hicks, Kyle Gibson and Trevor May. Sano could become a $300 million player. Buxton could command nine figures. Rosario, Hicks, Gibson and May probably won’t be as expensive, but they will ask for much more than what they are making on their roughly $500,000 contracts right now. And that’s not including other young players like Meyer, Kennys Vargas or Danny Santana if they can get their careers turned around. Some of these contracts will work out; some won’t. Still, it’s a risk worth taking to keep the best homegrown talent on the roster, and most of them will be signed when Mauer is off the books.

    It is better that the Twins have a few overpaid players, in addition to the young stars they have, than it is for Minnesota to operate under the old model where they developed players for other teams. Keeping talent in-house is key, especially when things tend to even out over the course of a player’s career. The methodology behind the Mauer contract was right, but the bottom line is he suffered a concussion, a major brain injury, and it altered the trajectory of his career.

    Ryan stopped short of saying that Mauer could become a batting champion again, but claimed that he is capable of hitting .300 next season. Given that batters tend to have a longer shelf life than pitchers, and knowing the effort that Mauer puts into his craft on a daily basis, counting out a resurgence in the coming years would be foolish even with his recent struggles.

    In the same breath, Mauer has to offer more than he is right now. He may never become a power hitter, but advanced metrics have revealed that a player who can get on base 40 percent of the time, as Mauer once did, is immensely valuable to the success of a baseball team — especially one with players like Buxton and Hicks setting the table for him, and Sano and Rosario hitting behind him. Players who, like Mauer, will become very expensive one day.

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    I agree the Twins had to sign Mauer to a contract in 2010.  He was a 27 year old, the double power had turned into home runs and he was an MVP players going into his prime.   But in signing the contract, Mauer also increased the expectation on him. 
    In the four years Management “wasted his prime years”, we went through bi-lateral leg weakness in 2011 and a drop in batting average from .324 to .277 in 2014.  It’s true the Twins could have spent more money, but that doesn’t excuse Mauer for his production.  For all the Mauer bashing, we have an equal amount of Mauer excuse making.
    All this leave us to where we are now, hoping a soon to be 33 year old will justify not only his salary but what seems to be a guaranteed spot in the lineup.

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    The past is the past. What is really important is how the Twins handle Mauer now that he is not a star (which no one at this point can rightly argue against). He is a serviceable major league player, that's it. So, IMO, the first base job should be an open competition next spring. Take his name and contract away (oh, and the "who cares" fact he's a homegrown guy) and his stats this season warrant a competition.

     

    Mauer v. Vargas v. Kepler. I guess you could even throw Sano in their, though he'll be in the lineup no matter what (DH if not 1B). Whoever has the best spring starts opening day. If Mauer loses, than he's a backup and PH. I don't care if he's the most expensive PH in history. The best players get on the field through merit, not preferential treatment. If Mauer wins the job, than he plays because we will have deserved it.

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    I live in Saint Paul and get into arguments with people about Mauer wherever I go, it seems. I usually feel like I'm the only one defending him, and the decision to sign him. The Twins had to do it and the contract was fair. Thanks for writing this up. I wish he would hit better too, but his injuries and amazing production as a 20-something buys him a whole lot of leash. 

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    The past is the past. What is really important is how the Twins handle Mauer now that he is not a star (which no one at this point can rightly argue against). He is a serviceable major league player, that's it. So, IMO, the first base job should be an open competition next spring. Take his name and contract away (oh, and the "who cares" fact he's a homegrown guy) and his stats this season warrant a competition.

     

    Mauer v. Vargas v. Kepler. I guess you could even throw Sano in their, though he'll be in the lineup no matter what (DH if not 1B). Whoever has the best spring starts opening day. If Mauer loses, than he's a backup and PH. I don't care if he's the most expensive PH in history. The best players get on the field through merit, not preferential treatment. If Mauer wins the job, than he plays because we will have deserved it.

    I like this idea, but I think the Twins are too old-fashioned to consider doing something like this. But, I agree with you that they should.

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    I live in Saint Paul and get into arguments with people about Mauer wherever I go, it seems. I usually feel like I'm the only one defending him, and the decision to sign him. 

    You shouldn't ever have to defend the decision to sign him.    If it were possible to view the archived trib pages at the time you would see that there was NO ONE against the decision to sign him at the time regardless of how many say they were against it now.    I was most lukewarm on the idea and warned people he would not be an MVP every year but I was fine with the signing because he was a really good player and I don't care how much he makes.    I just said they should write off much of his contract for public relations rather than player salaries.   Because so few of his homers that year cleared the fence by more than a few feet I didn't expect big power numbers but loved his OBP.  I still defend him though it has been harder the last couple years.    I still think he can make a come back and aside from a half season by Sano Mauer again led the team in OBP which he has done every single year but one when he got on base .402 to Thome's .412.     I never thought he was a #3 batter but definitely like the Twins better with him in the lineup.   On a team that was starved for OBP to the tune of 28th in the majors it is not a bad thing to have a guy that gets on .035 more than the team average.  Just put him at the 2 spot and hope he gets better the farther he gets from the concussion.  

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    I agree we should have signed him. I disagree with playing him over better players. Our window of contention is now open. ..we need to take advantage of all opportunities to put the best player on the field. Although he was on of a few with a decent obp. I am willing to go 1 more season to see if he can approach. 300 again.

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    I agree we should have signed him. I disagree with playing him over better players. Our window of contention is now open. ..we need to take advantage of all opportunities to put the best player on the field. Although he was on of a few with a decent obp. I am willing to go 1 more season to see if he can approach. 300 again.

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    I agree we should have signed him. I disagree with playing him over better players. Our window of contention is now open. ..we need to take advantage of all opportunities to put the best player on the field. Although he was on of a few with a decent obp. I am willing to go 1 more season to see if he can approach. 300 again.

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    The past is the past. What is really important is how the Twins handle Mauer now that he is not a star (which no one at this point can rightly argue against). He is a serviceable major league player, that's it. So, IMO, the first base job should be an open competition next spring. Take his name and contract away (oh, and the "who cares" fact he's a homegrown guy) and his stats this season warrant a competition.

     

    Mauer v. Vargas v. Kepler. I guess you could even throw Sano in their, though he'll be in the lineup no matter what (DH if not 1B). Whoever has the best spring starts opening day. If Mauer loses, than he's a backup and PH. I don't care if he's the most expensive PH in history. The best players get on the field through merit, not preferential treatment. If Mauer wins the job, than he plays because we will have deserved it.

    In theory sure but historically spring training is for training rather than competition and for good reason.  Rarely is that time frame predictive of regular season results.   I would point out a couple really bad ST by Morneau followed by monster years or Hicks great ST followed by regular season struggles but there are literally hundreds if not thousands of such examples.   Spots should be based on prior year.   Mauer does not have the strongest case but as pointed out above he was 2nd on the team in OBP and Kepler and Vargas just do not have enough experience to pass him by.   

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    "I usually feel like I'm the only one defending him, and the decision to sign him."

     

    Here's the fun part.  Not only did all those that you are defending him against demand that he be signed at the time, they also are the ones that clamored for the Twins at various times to sign at least 4 of the guys that are ranked ahead of Mauer on the worst contracts list.

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    I get tired of people who complain that Mauer should produce superstar numbers because of his salary. As was written above, he's a very serviceable major leaguer, still playing well enough to contibute to a good team. His salary has nothing to do with it. By the same token, his salary has nothing to do with how a manager should handle him. If it's best for the team for him to bat 6th then that's where he should bat. If it's best for the team for him to be the backup 1B and PH then that's what he should do. But as fans we should just ignore his salary. That's so six years ago.

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    I am not opposed to keeping Mauer at 1B. I still actually believe that he is actually a very key component of the offense. He doesn't deserve to hit 3rd, he should be dropped to 5th or 6th, but his success w/RISP mustn't be overlooked. Furthermore, what better options do the Twins have at First Base? Let's be real. Kennys Vargas?? The jury is still out on what he can do. If we were still rebuilding, I would say that Vargas should be playing everyday. But Mauer/Plouffe/Sano is the best options we have at 1B/3B/DH, respectively. We need to be looking toward the playoffs in 2016, and putting an unproven kid who struggles with plate discipline over a former batting champ that excels with RISP would, in my mind, be foolish. Not to mention, the mere presence of Joe Mauer in the lineup is going to give others better pitches to hit. Mauer does take a lot of pitches, but he is still respected and pitched to carefully. That presence helps others in the lineup get better pitches to hit.

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    There are a couple of things that give me hope Mauer can return to a similar hitter he was before his recent concussion. 1) Morneau. - It took him 2 full seasons to really get his grove back and in 2014 he hit .319 and in 2015 he was hitting .310. His OBP was .364 and .363, respectively. Mauer is now 2 full seasons away from his concussion. This offseason he's fully healthy and next year could be very telling how the last 2 seasons will go. 2) Mauer's BABIP in 2015 was .035 lower than his career average. 

     

    I'm not saying Mauer of old will return, but these 2 items give me hope that he could.

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    There are a couple of things that give me hope Mauer can return to a similar hitter he was before his recent concussion. 1) Morneau. - It took him 2 full seasons to really get his grove back and in 2014 he hit .319 and in 2015 he was hitting .310. His OBP was .364 and .363, respectively. Mauer is now 2 full seasons away from his concussion. This offseason he's fully healthy and next year could be very telling how the last 2 seasons will go. 2) Mauer's BABIP in 2015 was .035 lower than his career average. 

     

    I'm not saying Mauer of old will return, but these 2 items give me hope that he could.

     

    I am not confident that he can improve the BABIP number though.  His bat has slowed and teams are not worried he will take balls down the RF line.  So the 3 OF play in about 70% of the field and catch a lot of balls that fell earlier in his career.

     

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    The contract is a problem if the Twins insist on running Mauer out there at first base while there might be better options. It's not outlandish to look at Mauer's production and expect more.

     

    "We're paying him too much to not play him" just sounds like the old cheapskate Twins rhetoric. If there was a MLB minimum first baseman to be had who could best Mauer's meager offensive output, it's in the team"s best interest to move Joe aside.

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    Mauer emits a lot of "hope". Fans hope he can stay healthy. We hope he can remain a catcher. We hope he can hit more HRs after moving to 1B. We hope he trades part of his salary for team ownership. Now we hope management plays the player who deserves to play.

     

    My hope now is that Joe realizes that what he does to get ready for the season isn't working any more now that he is beyond his prime. Maybe fully recovering from his concussions will grant him the nanosecond it takes to determine whether to swing or take, but I think only a good workout regime will bring back his bat speed. Spend some money and time with the right trainer.

     

    I hope (although I don't believe) Joe gets back to his batting champion form; if not I hope management does what is best for the team to win.

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    I don't look at the pay as much as the results. If he can hit .290 with .350 obp then he should hit 2nd am he can be maximized. There will be better players but we can live with that especially since we have a shortage of on base guys. Problem is he didn't hit with bases empty...will that normalize going forward....I don't expect Mauer to be a superstar. But we need better than .260 with 10 hr moving forward.

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    You shouldn't ever have to defend the decision to sign him.    If it were possible to view the archived trib pages at the time you would see that there was NO ONE against the decision to sign him at the time regardless of how many say they were against it now.    I was most lukewarm on the idea and warned people he would not be an MVP every year but I was fine with the signing because he was a really good player and I don't care how much he makes.    I just said they should write off much of his contract for public relations rather than player salaries.   Because so few of his homers that year cleared the fence by more than a few feet I didn't expect big power numbers but loved his OBP.  I still defend him though it has been harder the last couple years.    I still think he can make a come back and aside from a half season by Sano Mauer again led the team in OBP which he has done every single year but one when he got on base .402 to Thome's .412.     I never thought he was a #3 batter but definitely like the Twins better with him in the lineup.   On a team that was starved for OBP to the tune of 28th in the majors it is not a bad thing to have a guy that gets on .035 more than the team average.  Just put him at the 2 spot and hope he gets better the farther he gets from the concussion.  

    The fact that Mauer lead the team in OBP says more about how bad the Twins were in getting on base than anything real positive about Mauer's season.  .338 isn't particularly good (61st in the majors) and is 22 points worse than his previous low.

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    My concern is their going to trade Plouffe When they could put Sano at 1B and have Mauer backup 1B and DH. But if Mauer can hit .300 fine. Trading Plouffe won't sting as much but I doubt it at this point.

    Why would you move your best offensive prospect in a generation(s?) to a defensive position he's played 3 times in his life?  Let him play 3B, be comfortable offensively and IF he struggles defensively, deal with that down t he road after he's established himself with the stick.

     

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    Actually, the Twins bungled Mauer's contract by not signing him earlier.  TR waited until AFTER Joe had won a batting title and was arbitration-eligible to sign him to his first multi-year deal, at which point he was only able to secure him through his age-27 season (buying out just one FA year).  Then Smith was forced to overpay in years for the right to extend him beyond that.

     

    Given that Mauer was a young homegrown cornerstone player, with only 69 games MLB experience and a full year and a half away from arbitration when the Target Field bill was formally approved, he was an obvious candidate for a more aggressive original contract.  (FWIW, a 10-year contract signed that year, to begin in 2006, would be expiring right now.)

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    Yeah that's another angle to this discussion. As little as we know about Sano's 3B glove, we know even less about his 1B glove.

    Yeah in all my time on the backfields, I've only seen Sano play and take grounders at 3B and SS.  His huge frame at SS was a sight to see !! LOL

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    I'm genuinely curious if you could/would write the same article about re-signing Torii Hunter to another one-year $10 million ($6 million, whatever) contract. it seems like there's an odd but hard "love-to-hate-them" divide out there.

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    Actually, the Twins bungled Mauer's contract by not signing him earlier.  TR waited until AFTER Joe had won a batting title and was arbitration-eligible to sign him to his first multi-year deal, at which point he was only able to secure him through his age-27 season (buying out just one FA year).  Then Smith was forced to overpay in years for the right to extend him beyond that.

     

    Given that Mauer was a young homegrown cornerstone player, with only 69 games MLB experience and a full year and a half away from arbitration when the Target Field bill was formally approved, he was an obvious candidate for a more aggressive original contract.  (FWIW, a 10-year contract signed that year, to begin in 2006, would be expiring right now.)

    20/20 hindsight.

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    The fact that Mauer lead the team in OBP says more about how bad the Twins were in getting on base than anything real positive about Mauer's season.  .338 isn't particularly good (61st in the majors) and is 22 points worse than his previous low.

    I agree.   It is a little damning with faint praise.     This wasn't a good year for Mauer in any respect except for how he did with RISP.   It just wasn't.   On the other hand, while Mauer did not do a great job getting on base he was still 35 points above the team average and it was still better than the other guys.    To sum up on a team that starves for OBP you should probably think twice about dumping a guy that has led the team in that department for pretty much his entire career.  Compare it to a scramble golf team that has three good guys tee to green that can't putt to save their lives and one guy that isn't that great a player but is a decent putter.   The team needs that guy putting.  Even if he isn't an elite putter that is the area of greatest need that he is best able to fill.   If this were the 2010 team the current Mauer should be PH or batting at the bottom of the order.  Currently he is best suited on this team to bat 2nd.   Hopefully he can get it together to be that guy that is best suited to bat 2nd on almost any team in history.

     

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    Actually, the Twins bungled Mauer's contract by not signing him earlier.  TR waited until AFTER Joe had won a batting title and was arbitration-eligible to sign him to his first multi-year deal, at which point he was only able to secure him through his age-27 season (buying out just one FA year).  Then Smith was forced to overpay in years for the right to extend him beyond that.

     

    Given that Mauer was a young homegrown cornerstone player, with only 69 games MLB experience and a full year and a half away from arbitration when the Target Field bill was formally approved, he was an obvious candidate for a more aggressive original contract.  (FWIW, a 10-year contract signed that year, to begin in 2006, would be expiring right now.)

    This, 100% this. This is driven by their either inability or unwillingness to sign him earlier, when they could have. Then, they were unable to put enough other good players around him for several years.

     

    The question is, what to do now. Clearly you give him a couple months to prove he is good again. But if he's not, and Kepler is raking and Buxton, Hicks, Arcia, Rosario are in the OF, well, you need to consider doing something differently.

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