Roster Cuts Narrow Bullpen Competition

Vanimal46 · March 23, 2016

Pretty disappointed that Taylor Rogers was one of the cuts... I guess out of the remaining options I'd choose Pressly to take the final spot. I don't know how you can sell Tonkin to the fans as being one of the better options in this bullpen after the spring he's had so far.

Squirrel · March 23, 2016

Yeah, I'd go with Pressly if it's between those two.

gunnarthor · March 23, 2016

Agreed, I like Pressley. But I think Tonkin would be released and sign elsewhere, correct?

Vanimal46 · March 23, 2016

Agreed, I like Pressley. But I think Tonkin would be released and sign elsewhere, correct?

Probably. That will be fine with me. Don't think he's going to be someone that will haunt the team if he's let go.

beckmt · March 23, 2016

Dan Runzler, he has stuff and has been good before, also he is another lefty. Give up on Tonkin, he will never make it.

tobi0040 · March 23, 2016

Pressly

Willihammer · March 23, 2016

Darnell?

Thrylos · March 23, 2016

Not sure that Abad is a lock. O'Rourke and Runzler did as well as he has done this spring.

I'd like to see Duffey in the pen because he has higher upside than the others. Otherwise the 2016 pen will be the same as the 2015 pen that was the worst or second worst in the league.

Pressly earned a spot as well.

Just a matter with how many lefties they will go out the gate and whether Ryan has the guts to turn Duffey in a reliever to help the team.

tobi0040 · March 23, 2016

On a side note, it will be interesting if Nolasco complains about not making the rotation (7.35 ERA and 1.91 WHIP).

At least Pelfrey had semi respectable numbers last spring when he whined

Vanimal46 · March 23, 2016

Aren't we getting to the point where it doesn't matter what Nolasco thinks?

tobi0040 · March 23, 2016

Aren't we getting to the point where it doesn't matter what Nolasco thinks?

We should be well past that point. It has value from an entertainment standpoint though.

Mike Sixel · March 23, 2016

So, Rogers is still not an option to be the LOOGY? He's a AAAA player as a starter, imo, I don't get this.

Does it really matter if they lose Tonkin, given how awesome the RP in AA and AAA are? This concern that you might lose a fringe player has cost the team in the past.

Willihammer · March 23, 2016

I think Tonkin is just a couple tweeks from being a decent reliever. Not a high leverage guy but a serviceable gap-filler to get a couple outs here and there.

Swap the sinker for a 4 seem.

Throw the slider more.

Honestly what business does a reliever who throws 94-95 have with a sinker?

Rosterman · March 23, 2016

Hopefully Tonkin won't be claimed. The team would have to keep him on the 40-man. Of course, they could always send him thru and chances are he wouldn't be claimed then. Which is the pain of this process. They need to be kept on some roster for a certain amount of time if claimed.

Nolasco and Duffey. Maybe one goes. Or they flip-flop in the bullpen. But if Duffey doesn't start up here he'll start at Rochester. I see them going with Duffey out of spring training and IF he has a couple of bad starts, he goes down and Nolasco goes back to the rotation and the Twins have to decide on long-man lefty Rogers or short-man O'Rourke.

Right now, it is Duffey's job to lose (let's not give him pressure, folks!)

Seth Stohs · March 23, 2016

Agreed, I like Pressley. But I think Tonkin would be released and sign elsewhere, correct?

He won't be released, but he would go on waivers. It'd be interesting to see if he gets claimed. I would think someone might, and that's fine. If he isn't claimed, he can go to Rochester.

Mike Sixel · March 23, 2016

I think Tonkin is just a couple tweeks from being a decent reliever. Not a high leverage guy but a serviceable gap-filler to get a couple outs here and there.

Swap the sinker for a 4 seem.
Throw the slider more.

Honestly what business does a reliever who throws 94-95 have with a sinker?

He's been in the system a long time, if he was a tweak away, wouldn't it have happened by now?

and, if that is what he is, why does it matter if they lose him? With all the bullpen arms they have, I don't get why anyone would be worried about losing a guy that MIGHT be a gap filler type.

Edited March 23, 2016 by Mike Sixel

clutterheart · March 23, 2016

Graham & Pressly - both rule 5 draft guys who stayed on the 25 man roster at the expense of the MLBt eam are now considered as bullpen only guys?

Yeesh. If thats right, that seems pretty poor. Hopefully they will keep Graham at least as a Starter in AAA.

Edited March 23, 2016 by clutterheart

Blackjack · March 23, 2016

He's been in the system a long time, if he was a tweak away, wouldn't it have happened by now?

Agreed!!!

Otto von Ballpark · March 23, 2016

Not sure that Abad is a lock. O'Rourke and Runzler did as well as he has done this spring.

Abad is a lock. By B-Ref's Opposition Quality measure, he's at 8.8, equal to Perkins and third highest among all Twins pitchers. He was in the pole position before spring training started and has done nothing to lose that spot (and nobody has clearly overtaken him).

Runtzler is 7.7, O'Rourke at 6.8.

Otto von Ballpark · March 23, 2016

On a side note, it will be interesting if Nolasco complains about not making the rotation (7.35 ERA and 1.91 WHIP).

Hopefully, his agent's pre-emptive complaints were the result of really seeing the writing on the wall (Milone and Duffey as virtual locks).

Otto von Ballpark · March 23, 2016

The remaining contenders for the job: Michael Tonkin, Ryan Pressly, Brandon Kintzler, Ryan O’Rourke, Dan Runzler.

By B-Ref Opposition Quality faced this spring:

Kintzler 8.4

Tonkin 8.1

Pressly 7.8

Runtzler 7.7

O'Rourke 6.8

I'd lean Pressly, but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to go with Kintzler assuming they can free up another 40-man roster spot.

nicksaviking · March 23, 2016

Pressly earned a spot last year, he was the second best BP arm last year before he went down. If spots were guaranteed prior to spring training, he should have been a lock.

I think we are too assumptive that Fein is a lock due to his veteran status.

Willihammer · March 23, 2016

Abad is a lock. By B-Ref's Opposition Quality measure, he's at 8.8, equal to Perkins and third highest among all Twins pitchers. He was in the pole position before spring training started and has done nothing to lose that spot (and nobody has clearly overtaken him).

Runtzler is 7.7, O'Rourke at 6.8.

All you need to know is Abad is a Rule 5 pick. He has the safest job on the team.

Edited March 23, 2016 by Willihammer

alarp33 · March 23, 2016

All you need to know is Abad is a Rule 5 pick. He has the safest job on the team.

No he's not

Willihammer · March 23, 2016

He's been in the system a long time, if he was a tweak away, wouldn't it have happened by now?

You're probably right. Crain comes to mind as a guy who was a tweak away though. One conversation with John Rauch and his career turned from Crainwreck to Gravy Crain.

Lonestar · March 23, 2016

Last year Tonkin had a better WHIP, K/9 and xFIP than Pressly. I'm just saying.

Vanimal46 · March 23, 2016

So what does the future hold for Rogers? Go back to starting in AAA? Keep him in the bullpen in AAA?

Willihammer · March 23, 2016

No he's not

Minor league FA, my mistake. Well maybe there is a competition then.

I'll ask again, where does Darnell fit? He's had a good spring.

Dr. Evil · March 23, 2016

Yes but if you compare AFLOP and SUBPAR metrix to WHIP and BREF, it paints an entirely different picture. Nolasco will win the Cy Young award obviously. Can't believe I'm the only one who recognizes this.

Vanimal46 · March 23, 2016

I'll ask again, where does Darnell fit? He's had a good spring.

IIRC, he was removed from the 40 man and Pat Dean took his place. I don't believe he has a clear path to the majors either. Lots of fringe guys to sift through for our favorite ball club.

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