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    Cody Pirkl

    The Twins were expected all offseason to bring in much needed right-handed outfield help. Now that most of the options are off the board, it’s fair to wonder: Have they already made their right-handed outfield addition for 2023?

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    Kyle Farmer has been an average to good shortstop in every season of his career. He’s moved around the infield a bit and has always been a solid regular no matter where he plays, likely a huge reason the Twins acquired him from Cincinnati this offseason. Now that Carlos Correa becomes the everyday shortstop for the near future, Farmer finds himself in a utility platoon role where he should thrive. Could that role include some time spent in the outfield?

    Kyle Farmer has spent four total innings in the outfield in his major league career. At 32 years old, it’s somewhat hard to imagine a sudden shift in position, even if it’s just periodically. For as much as the Twins needed depth up the middle for the infield however, Farmer could certainly find himself filling another need in the corner outfield for the Twins. It sure appears the front office is considering this same solution.

    Farmer is clearly an athlete, gamer, grinder, whatever term you like to use for this brand of utilityman who can do it all while receiving glowing reviews along the way. Long considered a fantastic clubhouse guy and team player despite playing for some disappointing Cincinnati squads, it’s difficult to envision him refusing if the Twins ask him to try something new. While certainly needing time to get acclimated, it’s not uncommon for middle infielders to transition well to the outfield. See Nick Gordon who, just last year, did a fine job of playing in the grass for essentially the first time in his career.

    It sounds like a tall task for a 32-year-old to jump into a new position, but it’s worth noting that the bar to clear in regards to defense is not very high. The recently DFAed Kyle Garlick has never graded out as above average defensively in his career, and was often well below. He was still a viable player for the limited role he was asked to fill. 

    Kyle Farmer wouldn’t have to be a premier defender in the outfield. If he even slides into the same tier as Garlick defensively it would help the Twins tremendously. He’s likely to still accrue much of his value on the infield, but the added versatility gives the Twins an arsenal of right-handed flexibility. Not to mention the fact that Garlick may be right back up with the MLB squad right away in 2023.

    Any confidence in Farmer playing outfield would have led to the Twins decision to gamble on losing Garlick to waivers. The noted low bar to clear on defense is the only real concern when it comes to Farmer filling the Garlick role. The two are nearly identical in offensive output.

    It’s likely that Farmer is capable of being what Garlick was last year, except his recent health paints a much better picture when it comes to availability. And the best part is the Twins gambled and won and still have Garlick waiting in the wings.

    It may seem like a ridiculous idea to forego a real right-handed outfield acquisition. The high end market was quick however, and it’s entirely possible that a year long combo of Farmer and Garlick could provide just as much value as the Andrew McCutchen and Tommy Pham types. Possibly even more.

    It’s possible that the Twins still bring in a right-handed outfield option in creative fashion, but the free agency market appears finished. At the end of the day, the Twins may have had their right-handed corner outfield addition way back in November. Kyle Farmer could fill a much different need than we’d have expected.

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    7 hours ago, Trov said:

    Lewis injury was an overall fluke.  Many guys make the transition to OF from infield.  To argue that because someone who has not played the OF will get injured, means that everyone will get injured playing OF, because at some point it is their first time playing it.  I could go over several guys that transitioned to OF later in career, or even early in career after playing infield whole time growing up, that never got injured playing OF.  

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a fluke. Lewis injured himself by failing to jump into the wall, and he likely failed because no one has asked him to jump into a wall before so he didn’t know how to do it.

    With that said, Farmer has all of spring to get up to speed on playing OF, he won’t be thrust into it basically overnight. 

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    11 hours ago, Dman said:

    There doesn't seem to be much reason to play Farmer in the outfield that I can see.  If you want more righty bats in the lineup then just move Miranda to 1st base, and put Farmer at 3rd or DH Miranda or Farmer.  Why play him out of position in the outfield when it seems you can pretty easily find room in the infield for him?

    The Twins still need a right handed outfield bat and I wouldn't be surprised to see Garlick fill it yet again.  Still a fair bit of the offseason left so things can change but I don't see the need for Farmer in Left baring injuries.

    Anyone else notice how much the Twins have inquired about centerfielder's this year?  First Lauriano, then Taylor I think they are looking for backup potential for Buxton which would be nice.  So far though no interest or prices high.

    Yes, I have noticed the Twins making trade inquiries of potential CF options. I don’t think that's an odmonishment toward Gordon. I think it speaks more to A) letting Celestino further his development, and B) increase general roster depth/options, and C) maybe adding another potential speed player to the roster who is more than just a PR.

    Not sure it's going to happen, though I don't think they're done making changes yet, but I do find it really interesting.

    But I find the potential roster construction to be very interesting as it sits today. I believe the 13 man staff is locked in at this point. So that means 13 position players. If we take a HOPEFUL MOMENT and ASSUME Kirilloff is healthy, the 13 man roster would look like this: Vasquez, Jeffers, AK, Arraez, Polanco, Correa, Miranda, Farmer, Gordon, Gallo, Buxton, and Kepler. That's 12, meaning there's room for 1 more add. And that's assuming long standing rumors of Kepler, or someone, potentially being moved in a trade.

    So does Garlick get added back to the roster when someone gets moved to the 60 day? Does a trade for an OF still happen? Is there room enough to include Larnach? We talk a lot about potential adds to the staff, but the player portion of the roster is clearly not set yet.

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    5 hours ago, Fezig said:

    I"m not saying Farmer is HOF, but Robin Yount made the move to OF at 30 years old after playing SS his entire career. A move to the outfield is a lot easier than moving from OF to IF

    Robin Yount was also a baseball unicorn.  Farmer is not.

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    9 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a fluke. Lewis injured himself by failing to jump into the wall, and he likely failed because no one has asked him to jump into a wall before so he didn’t know how to do it.

    With that said, Farmer has all of spring to get up to speed on playing OF, he won’t be thrust into it basically overnight. 

    I would allocate some of the blame to inadequate wall padding.  

     

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    20 hours ago, Dman said:

    There doesn't seem to be much reason to play Farmer in the outfield that I can see.  If you want more righty bats in the lineup then just move Miranda to 1st base, and put Farmer at 3rd or DH Miranda or Farmer.  Why play him out of position in the outfield when it seems you can pretty easily find room in the infield for him?

    The Twins still need a right handed outfield bat and I wouldn't be surprised to see Garlick fill it yet again.  Still a fair bit of the offseason left so things can change but I don't see the need for Farmer in Left baring injuries.

    Anyone else notice how much the Twins have inquired about centerfielder's this year?  First Lauriano, then Taylor I think they are looking for backup potential for Buxton which would be nice.  So far though no interest or prices high.

    i agree that he will be playing 3B against lefties, with Miranda moving to 1st.

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    I believe one of the dynamic duo said something like this in the last month or two.

    I expect Garlick to be back on the 40 man when spring training opens. Paddack and Canterino can be put on the 60 day IL. Leaving Garlick as OF option and Farmer as IF option against lefties. Hopefully a BP signing to fill out the 40 man once those two spots open.

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    14 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a fluke. Lewis injured himself by failing to jump into the wall, and he likely failed because no one has asked him to jump into a wall before so he didn’t know how to do it.

    With that said, Farmer has all of spring to get up to speed on playing OF, he won’t be thrust into it basically overnight. 

    How does one sufficiently jump into the wall? 

    https://encrypted-vtbn0.gstatic.com/video?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_NAN6CFf9ZuIAgRo9EyYPrtH8VZV4COvrtQ

     

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    1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    Lewis missed the wall, landed wrong, and that's what caused the injury. Missing the wall and landing off-balance is a pretty good way to do it wrong IMO.

    He jumped before the warning track. The Ball wouldn't have reached the wall in the air in my opinion. If we assume that the  location of the ball will dictate when you jump and where you land. How does an experienced outfielder not miss the wall?  

      

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    Twins had several shortcomings last year and their defense was one of them.  Moving Farmer doesn't help/address that issue. While he can't hit, Gallo should help the OF defensively. You can probably plan on Buxton playing CF around 50% of the games. IMO, Buxton's health is the key to the season. If he could exceed expectations and play CF 100-120 games and remain healthy if they made the playoffs, then another RH OF wouldn't be quite as big of a concern, at least not as big as adding a quality starter. 

    Moving Farmer to the OF to offset Buxton being unavailable is not a great fallback plan. Then again it might be the only one they have. Related to the defense topic, did I miss something last year,...  I was not impressed with Arraez's defense at 1st. In spring training I would get Miranda as much time as possible at 1st and let Farmer handle 3rd base duties.      

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    I'm not sure Miranda is the answer to any question about improved infield defense, but I think Arraez got better at first the more he played there. It's not a super hard position, but there are things to learn and to drive into muscle memory through repetition and he's figuring it out. That said, losing Urshella is going to be felt at third until the year Miranda is eventually  replaced by one of the displaced middle infielders. That could be this summer by Lewis or next year by Lee or in four years by Correa, but he's not good enough as a hitter or a fielder to hold off guys who can field better and hit as well. As with everything on this team, time will tell who keeps improving, who plateaus, and who gets hurt. There are plenty of opportunities for plenty of good young players and we may be best off holding back on changes until we get into spring training and see what we have in our hand right now.

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    On 1/19/2023 at 8:59 AM, JD-TWINS said:

    OF: Gordon - Buxton - Gallo (Larnach - Farmer)

    IF: Miranda - CC - Polanco - Arraez (Kirilof - Farmer)

    DH: Garlick  - against lefties

    DH: Larnach - Kirilof - Arraez against righties

    C: Vázquez - Jeffers

    Assuming health…………..Best 13 as of now……..Lewis in late summer may take Garlick’s spot due to IF - OF - DH flexibility.

    Kepler??

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    On 1/19/2023 at 8:08 AM, HoskenPowell said:

    Great idea.  It worked out great with Royce last year so why not take a middle infielder with little to zero experience and see if we can screw up two years of his career.

    hold up, we're not comparing royce lewis and kyle farmer here, are we? thanks, i needed a laugh this morning. 

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    Just now, bloggymcbloggerson said:

    hold up, we're not comparing royce lewis and kyle farmer here, are we? thanks, i needed a laugh this morning. 

    though with that said, can someone/anyone explain to me why we're thinking a 32-year-old utility infielder with four MLB innings in the outfield is going to fill this role? anyone?

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