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  • Minnesota’s Managerial Candidates: External Candidates


    Cody Christie

    Earlier in the week, I looked at the top internal candidates for the Twins open managerial job. Since Tom Kelly was hired in the 1980’s, the club has only hired managers with internal connections to the organization. Derek Falvey and Thad Levine might have a different plan in mind this time around.

    There are currently six open managerial positions (Angels, Orioles, Blue Jays, Rangers, and Reds), so the Twins will have competition for some of the top managerial candidates. If the Twins are going to look at external candidates, the club will need to make some swift decisions.

    Here is a look at some of the external candidates tied to the Twins.

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    Brad Mills

    Current Role: Indians bench coach

    Qualifications: Mills spent eleven seasons managing in the minor league system of the Cubs, Rockies and Dodgers. He has deep ties to Terry Francona as he was his first base coach in Philadelphia and his bench coach with the Boston Red Sox. Mills was manager of the Astros from 2010-2012, which included two straight 100 loss seasons as the club looked to rebuild.

    Sandy Alomar Jr

    Current Role: Indians first-base coach

    Qualifications: His coaching career started as the catching instructor for the New York Mets organization. He has been on the Indians staff since the 2010 season and served as the interim manager at the end of the 2012 campaign. He had been rumored to be in the running for previous managerial jobs in Toronto, Chicago, and Boston.

    Joe Espada

    Current Role: Astros bench coach

    Qualifications: Espada spent eight seasons managing and coaching in the Marlins organization. From there, he took a special assistant job with Brian Cashman, the Yankees GM. For two seasons, he was the Yankees infield coach and third base coach. In the last two World Baseball Classics, he has coached for the Puerto Rican team and he manages in the Puerto Rican winter league.

    Brandon Hyde

    Current Role: Cubs bench coach

    Qualifications: Hyde coached and managed in the Marlins organization for the better part of a decade. This included stints as the acting manager and the team’s MLB bench coach. He’s served as bench coach and first base coach under the last two Cubs managers, Rick Reneria and Joe Maddon. Last off-season, he was offered a job with the Mets but decided to stay with the Cubs.

    Mark DeRosa

    Current Role: MLB Network studio analyst

    Qualifications: Derosa retired from baseball in 2013 and accepted a studio analyst position with MLB Network. He has no professional coaching experience. The Star Tribune wrote of the club’s interest in him last weekend.

    David Ross

    Current Role: ESPN baseball color analyst

    Qualifications: He famously retired after the Cubs run to the 2016 World Series title. Since his retirement, he has appeared on shows like Dancing with the Stars and Saturday Night Live. He has also written a book and worked closely with charities in the Chicago area. He has no professional coaching experience. The Star Tribune wrote of the club’s interest in him last weekend.

    Which external candidate seems like the best fit for the Twins? Or will the club go with another internal candidate? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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    And let's not project things and carry on a different discussion. This is a discussion on the search for a new manager. Let's keep these side tangents out of it.

    I happen to believe that who the owner is and how he runs his team (and that includes the perception of how he runs his team) is extremely relevant in the discussion of the next manager. First, I guarantee Pohlad will have the final call on whoever it is. Second, interviews run both ways. The Twins are trying to decide who fits best. The candidates are trying to decide if they are a fit with this organization, and that includes the owner and his budget.

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    I happen to believe that who the owner is and how he runs his team is extremely relevant in the discussion of the next manager. First, I guarantee Pohlad will have the final call on whoever it is. Second, interviews run both ways. The Twins are trying to decide who fits best. The candidates are trying to decide if they are a fit with this organization, and that includes the owner and his budget.

    This thread is about discussing potential candidates. Twins spending, calling the owners cheap and bringing up contraction is off topic. Period. Knock it off.

     

    If you want to mention specific candidates and the odds of them wanting to come here because of specific financial information that you are aware of that would not being appealing to them, that is relevant, but this tired, old, generalization of who would want to come here because the owners are cheap is not going to fly.

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    Hopefully the Front office is doing some recon during the process of conducting interviews. 

     

    No matter who they hire... the interview is a great way to gain some inside information from each candidate's current team. 

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    Well, it looks like the Reds, Angels and maybe even Rangers have finished up their process of hiring a manager, and it sounds like they took none of the Twins' leading candidates off the board.

     

    Meaning, the Twins should likely be able to land their first choice.

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    I do wonder how much say the new manager will have in the ENTIRE coaching staff.

    If the FO isn't ready to sign off on just about any coach the new manager wants, then they probably picked the wrong guy. (The converse statement might also be true, except that few rookie managers will turn down any opening at the major league level, so they have less leverage throughout the negotiation process.)

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    None of the names mentioned are familiar to me but I will say one more time relative to the interview process.

     

    Interviewer question, "If hired would you consider yourself to be a players' manager?"

    Answer, "Yes"

     

    Interviewer, "Interview over, next candidate please"

     

    Answer, "No, our collective job is to win ball games and I don't care to get involved in their personal lives or be a club house buddy. All I care about is what they do on the field."

     

    Interviewer, "Ok you are on the short list".

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    None of the names mentioned are familiar to me but I will say one more time relative to the interview process.

     

    Interviewer question, "If hired would you consider yourself to be a players' manager?"

    Answer, "Yes"

     

    Interviewer, "Interview over, next candidate please"

     

    Answer, "No, our collective job is to win ball games and I don't care to get involved in their personal lives or be a club house buddy. All I care about is what they do on the field."

     

    Interviewer, "Ok you are on the short list".

    Your candidate will fail as a manager.  That level of detachment will not work. A player's manager is not buddy.  The manager should have a rapport good enough that can correct mistakes without the player getting defensive and tuning the manager out.  A player's manager would have the respect of the players as a human being.  That is a hard thing to maintain. t is also difficult to do with a bad team. .  The trend towards younger manager rather than retreads who "know how to win" would show that the clubs are looking towards a people person who can understand the game rather than the master tactician  with less people skills.

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    Your candidate will fail as a manager.  That level of detachment will not work.

    Concur. An answer I'd probably like to hear is, "some players need a pat on the back and others need a kick in the butt, and even this can change during the course of a season. I believe I have the ability to tell the difference, so let me tell you about several examples from the last couple of on-field jobs I had..."

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    If the FO isn't ready to sign off on just about any coach the new manager wants, then they probably picked the wrong guy. (The converse statement might also be true, except that few rookie managers will turn down any opening at the major league level, so they have less leverage throughout the negotiation process.)

     

    Of course if the front office wanted to pick the coaching staff but also wanted it to appear largely to be the field managers call, they'd probably just hire Derek Shelton who in retrospect probably actually was the chosen successor to Molitor back when Shelton was originally hired.

     

    The fact that he hasn't been named manager already when two other managerial spots have already been filled makes me think the front office is having second thoughts and might really be considering Hyde or Baldelli. Which I hope they are.

     

     

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    Per ashburyjohn

     

    "Concur. An answer I'd probably like to hear is, "some players need a pat on the back and others need a kick in the butt,......"

     

    Exactly-relative to their play on the field, not as a shrink analyzing personal issues or whether a manager even likes or dislikes a certain player.

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    Exactly-relative to their play on the field, not as a shrink analyzing personal issues or whether a manager even likes or dislikes a certain player.

    Some of the qualities in a good manager probably overlap the qualities in a good psychologist.

     

    Are you thinking of a case where this has been an actual problem, where a manager has tried too hard to be like a shrink?

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    Sounds like the Twins might be getting close on Baldelli and I completely support that hire. He's a former player (and a good one, at that) who has worked in both a front office and in the dugout. He's young, to boot.

    If true, it would be the first time the Twins hired someone as manager from outside the organization since Ray Miller in 1985. He would be just the third “outside” managerial hire since the Twins came to Minnesota. Gene Mauch and Bill Rigney were the only others not employed by the Twins when named manager.

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    Sounds like the Twins might be getting close on Baldelli and I completely support that hire. He's a former player (and a good one, at that) who has worked in both a front office and in the dugout. He's young, to boot.

    https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1054434701119815685

     

    edit: corrected the link

     

    Sounds like Shelton could stick around too

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    If true, it would be the first time the Twins hired someone as manager from outside the organization since Ray Miller in 1985. He would be just the third “outside” managerial hire since the Twins came to Minnesota. Gene Mauch and Bill Rigney were the only others not employed by the Twins when named manager.

     

    The Twins Country Club coming to an end

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    So, what goes on in an interview? What kind of questions are asked (on either side)?

     

    I heard somewhere they have software that simulates game situations and the outcomes of situations based on how the candidate responds, creating other game situations. 

     

    Just an example of a specific tidbit I heard once somewhere. No source.

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    According to Wikipedia Meullens also runs a baseball academy in Curacao. Not sure if that's still true as the citation is old and the link is now broken, but that's a plus in my book. That sounds like someone who proactively looks to work with young baseball players.

     

    Also he speaks five languages, including Japanese (he played over there for awhile).

     

    That would be impressive.  Nihon-go (Japanese language) is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to learn for a non native speaker and even harder to learn how to write.  Source (married to a teacher who taught in Fukoka, Nippon for almost 7 years)

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