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    Tom Froemming

    The Twins hit three more home runs, including the first of Mitch Garver’s career, and the bullpen delivered 4.2 shutout innings of one-hit ball to help lift Minnesota to victory on the home opener. It was a day of firsts, as Zach Duke earned his first win as a Twin and Fernando Rodney recorded his first save with the club.

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    Snapshot (chart via FanGraphs)

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    James Paxton figured to be a tough draw for the Twins today. He was among the best pitchers in baseball last season, though his season went somewhat underappreciated because he missed some time. Here are the 2017 leaders in FIP, minimum 130 innings pitched:

    2.45 Chris Sale

    2.50 Corey Kluber

    2.61 Paxton

    2.71 Stephen Strasburg

    2.90 Max Scherzer

    We learned during the pregame ceremonies that Paxton is also a pretty cool customer.

    https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/982003744702435328?s=20

    Paxton lived up to the billing, and was cruising right along until Miguel Sano blasted Target Field’s first home run of 2018 to tie the game at 2-2. It was also the Twins’ first homer with runners on this season.

    https://twitter.com/fsnorth/status/982021408510246912?s=20

    From there it was all Twins. Garver gave the Twins the lead in the seventh inning with his blast ...

    https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/status/982028754737418242?s=20

    .. and Eddie Rosario provided a nice insurance run with his first dinger of the year in the eighth.

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    The bullpen was spectacular.

    Taylor Rogers got a huge inning-ending double play in the fifth and then pitched a 1-2-3 sixth inning. Ryan Pressly gave up a leadoff walk and a Texas Leaguer to open the seventh before getting a huge strikeout. He was bailed out of trouble in part by Duke and in part by a suboptimal baserunning play by Seattle.

    Duke retired both men he faced. Addison Reed came in for the eighth and had about as good of an inning you could hope for. He struck out two batters and only needed 10 pitches, nine of which were strikes.

    Rodney came in for his first save opportunity of the year. He walked the first batter he faced on four pitches, but retired Jean Segura, Robinson Cano and Mitch Haniger in order to close it out.

    https://twitter.com/fsnorth/status/982036805104033792?s=20

    The guy who shoots arrows is playing his home games at Target Field. It just seems like it’s meant to be.

    The Mariners hit three balls 105 mph or harder off Kyle Gibson and had seven hits over his 4.1 innings pitched. The M’s scored both of their runs off Gibby in the first inning, one was unearned due to a Sano error.

    Postgame With Molitor

    https://twitter.com/fsnorth/status/982046197153083393?s=20

    Bullpen Usage

    Here’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days:

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    How about Lamarre? Getting the start in the home opener and getting a base rap right off the bat. Grossman 0-4 today....is it possible Lamarre eventually lands in the right-handed DH spot and is the primary 4th outfielder? I'd be worried if I were Grossman....

     

    Even factoring in the three singles he's hit this season, LaMarre's a .119 career hitter.

     

    I love the start of a new season, but one thing I don't enjoy about it is the inevitable overreaction to hot/cold starts (they happen every freakin' year). Grossman starts the season 1 for 8 and suddenly he should be worried...about Ryan LaMarre? Come on.

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    Kyle Gibson

    Yesterday: three swinging strikes on 80 pitches (3.75%), average exit velocity of 81.4 mph.

    First start: 16 swinging strikes on 102 pitches (15.7%), average exit velocity of 77.1 mph.

     

    No reason for panic or anything, but he was certainly less impressive this time around. He did a great job pitching his way out of jams, in particular against Robinson Cano. Not only was he 0-for-3 with a strikeout against Gibby, but Cano also left five men on base in those PAs.

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    I agree with pretty much everything... except (sorry) that no​ pitcher in baseball has the stuff to get away with it when they leave a ball on a hitter's dinner plate.

     

    You're absolutely right though, Gibby just flat out struggled today overall (even accounting for the cold).

    If our new definition of struggling today is 2 runs 4 innings, I will take it with the revamped bullpen.  In the past struggling was 5 runs in 3 innings.  Granted it could have been worse, but pitching out of jams is something Gibson never seemed to be able to do in the past and he limited the damage. So hopefully there a more clean games than struggling ones, but I think they have obviously raised our expectations levels, which is good!

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    You don't enjoy overreaction, and yet . . .

     

    Even factoring in the three singles he's hit this season, LaMarre's a .119 career hitter.

     

    I love the start of a new season, but one thing I don't enjoy about it is the inevitable overreaction to hot/cold starts (they happen every freakin' year). Grossman starts the season 1 for 8 and suddenly he should be worried...about Ryan LaMarre? Come on.

     

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    I just want to say ... I turned to my buddies during the game (section 118 row 9) and said “I’m gonna call it. Mitch is gonna Hit a bomb to left here in this AB”. Boom.

    You’re welcome.

    Hold on now, my dad's got to get partial credit!  He looked at the scoreboard, saw that Garver was 0'fer and said, he's due!

     

    Section 114, row 19.

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    As Mike noted in the game thread, if I were a Mariner fan I’d be questioning letting my LH starter give up a game tying 2 run HR to Sano.

    Particularly since he was then immediately removed.

     

    that was the head scratcher for sure.

     

    Solid game, other than the infield defense. The team looks like it is fully embracing TTO, at least on offense.

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    A couple of notes.  As much as I look forward to guys like Dozier and Sano coming to the plate, it seems like every guy we send to the plate has the possibility putting it into the seats or getting a big hit.  That's what makes this team fun to watch and there are guys that haven't even hit there stride yet.  This is a really explosive offense that is starting to consistently take quality at bats.

     

    On Gibson - yesterday the laws of probability didn't catch up to him.  He was in a precarious position a lot, but the Mariners left a pile of guys on base and the 2 runs in the first were the only damage in what could have been an early blowout.  While the defense didn't exactly help him yesterday, Gibson isn't exactly helping himself either.  The lead off hitter was on base frequently yesterday, the 6 walks in the previous start.  Those are bullets that Gibson has been dodging.  He'll have to improve or eventually, those bullets will get ya.

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    I was at the game today. The thing I was blown by was that Lemarre bats right but throws left. So weird. If he's naturally left-handed, it would be weird to have him hit right handed since left handed hitting is a much rarer commodity.

     

    If he just is naturally split between batting and hitting, is this common? Is he an X-man?

     

    This team will take the right handed bat!

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    Apparently only 5 players in history of mlb have that combo (over 1000 at bats). Rickey Henderson, Ryan Ludwick, Cody Ross and 2 others.

     

    Apparently it is much more common to bat left and throw right. There are hundreds of examples of that

    Former Twin David McCarty threw left and batted right. Several former pitchers did, of course almost none of them got 100 at bats, let alone 1000. Charlie Leibrandt threw left and batted right. Edited by yarnivek1972
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    Kyle Gibson

    Yesterday: three swinging strikes on 80 pitches (3.75%), average exit velocity of 81.4 mph.

    First start: 16 swinging strikes on 102 pitches (15.7%), average exit velocity of 77.1 mph.

     

    No reason for panic or anything, but he was certainly less impressive this time around. He did a great job pitching his way out of jams, in particular against Robinson Cano. Not only was he 0-for-3 with a strikeout against Gibby, but Cano also left five men on base in those PAs.

     

    Hopefully for Gibby, this is only about the cold. Numbers are clear he didn't have his best stuff.

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    Is anyone else concerned about the lack of use of Moya and Kinley? I am not sure any pitching staff can afford to have 2 relievers who don't get to pitch. I know that the situations have not been exactly what they want for these two but I sure don't want to wear out the rest of the pen.

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    Is anyone else concerned about the lack of use of Moya and Kinley? I am not sure any pitching staff can afford to have 2 relievers who don't get to pitch. I know that the situations have not been exactly what they want for these two but I sure don't want to wear out the rest of the pen.

    Yes, but the weird early-season schedule allows for stuff like that to happen. I have some concerns about how the bullpen has been managed thus far. I'm going to try and discuss those on a live stream via Twitter tonight.

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    Is anyone else concerned about the lack of use of Moya and Kinley? I am not sure any pitching staff can afford to have 2 relievers who don't get to pitch. I know that the situations have not been exactly what they want for these two but I sure don't want to wear out the rest of the pen.

    I will be, if it continues.

     

    So far, you can chalk it up to strong starts the first series coupled with days off.

     

    Moya and Kinley clearly are the bottom of the barrel in Molly's eyes, though.  That much is clear, if anyone had any doubts.

     

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    Yes, but the weird early-season schedule allows for stuff like that to happen. I have some concerns about how the bullpen has been managed thus far. I'm going to try and discuss those on a live stream via Twitter tonight.

    It seems clear Molitor doesn't trust either of them. Not sure about Moya. He wasn't bad last season. Kinley I get. 

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    If our new definition of struggling today is 2 runs 4 innings, I will take it with the revamped bullpen.  In the past struggling was 5 runs in 3 innings.  Granted it could have been worse, but pitching out of jams is something Gibson never seemed to be able to do in the past and he limited the damage. So hopefully there a more clean games than struggling ones, but I think they have obviously raised our expectations levels, which is good!

    Very true. Although perhaps I should clarify “struggled” . I meant it more in the sense that Gibby really had to work hard to get those outs because he wasn’t nearly as sharp as he can be. I agree, if this type of start reflects his worst of the rest of the season... I’ll totally take it.

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    And yet the team has won 10 straight when he starts. Go figure.

     

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    Including two games where he gave up 5 ER in 6 innings and another where he gave up 3 ER in 3.1 innings. And 7 of those 10 starts we scored 6 or more runs.  

     

    In fact, last year, for the 90 pitchers who threw 140 or more innings, he had the most run support by quite a decent margin.  He got 6.62, Ray (in the NL) got the second most: 6.21.

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    I was at the game today. The thing I was blown by was that Lemarre bats right but throws left. So weird. If he's naturally left-handed, it would be weird to have him hit right handed since left handed hitting is a much rarer commodity.

     

    If he just is naturally split between batting and hitting, is this common? Is he an X-man?

    I do the same so it’s something I notice because it’s an oddity.

     

    The only player of note who throws left and hits right that I know of was Rickey Henderson.

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    I was at the game today. The thing I was blown by was that Lemarre bats right but throws left. So weird. If he's naturally left-handed, it would be weird to have him hit right handed since left handed hitting is a much rarer commodity.

     

    If he just is naturally split between batting and hitting, is this common? Is he an X-man?

    Much more common was my situation: I threw right and batted neither.
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    Including two games where he gave up 5 ER in 6 innings and another where he gave up 3 ER in 3.1 innings. And 7 of those 10 starts we scored 6 or more runs.  

     

    In fact, last year, for the 90 pitchers who threw 140 or more innings, he had the most run support by quite a decent margin.  He got 6.62, Ray (in the NL) got the second most: 6.21.

    Dang nice of his teammates to score so often.

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    Including two games where he gave up 5 ER in 6 innings and another where he gave up 3 ER in 3.1 innings. And 7 of those 10 starts we scored 6 or more runs.  

     

    In fact, last year, for the 90 pitchers who threw 140 or more innings, he had the most run support by quite a decent margin.  He got 6.62, Ray (in the NL) got the second most: 6.21.

    Gibson likely survived due to the light on his feet Sano. That liner had double written all over it, unless it comtinued to rise and clear the fence. Yesterday looked like one of those games where you tried as hard as you could to hand someone a baseball game, and they refused to take it. I see the same old Gibby, walks, nibbling, and high pitch counts.
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    Is anyone else concerned about the lack of use of Moya and Kinley? I am not sure any pitching staff can afford to have 2 relievers who don't get to pitch. I know that the situations have not been exactly what they want for these two but I sure don't want to wear out the rest of the pen.

    Eh... I'm not concerned yet. Molly's not going to use them in close games, that's clear. He needs to ease them in before he trusts them in a close game. Moya's likely headed to Rochester in a few days when Hughes is activated as the 5th starter, so he'll get to pitch there more often.

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    Wait, what? Why!?!!?

     

    Let the players have their “thing”, particularly when it has personal significance.

    I thought it was something like violent gestures, I could totally be making this up, I swore we had a conversation about this on here though Edited by twinsfanstreif
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    And yet the team has won 10 straight when he starts. Go figure.

     

    Speaking of figuring, we're in first place and our magic number is 156. I can taste the champagne.

    Magic Number is only 147, per RIOT. That's because divisional rivals play each other 19 times, so that many wins would mean at least 10 came at the expense of any given Central team. Woo hoo for Math!

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