Lance Lynn to the Twins?

Santana should only be out for around 1/6 of the season.    There was some analysis about his use of the slider that explained his success last year but even with regression he should be pretty good.    Odorizzi should give us what Gibson gave us the last half of last year.   I expect at least the same from Gibson as last year but last year he was our 3rd best and if our third best becomes our 4th best that is a good thing.   I don't know how  Meija had a 4.5 ERA last year which is the same as Hughes career ERA.   I don't know how he doesn't end up in the top 5 on the depth charts.   Either way the improvement should be in the middle to back end and there should be improvement.   

That's a completely laughable offer.

Yet, we're told it's ridiculous to suggest that they knowingly offered Darvish a contract they knew he wouldn't accept.

Both offers were low ball offers. In Darvish case it was still over 100 million. I know now is the time to be shopping but i would hope the Twins would know the market a little better then that. While Logan is getting 0 interest. There is atleast interest in signing the thre remaining pitchers. I would think a 1 year 13-14 million with 1 or 2 million incentives should be an offer that can land one.

 

I may wait a week or two before offering to see Hughes and Sanchez more. They may work as the 5th starter for a while till Hughes tires and Gonsalvez or Romero or Littell is ready to come up

Edited March 2, 2018 by Brandon

 

...it's better than $0M/0 years...
 

Yeah that's the deal I signed out of little league and I'm still kicking myself more than 25 years later. Bet I could hit a baseball over that mountain.

I'm sure they don't ever fully disclose all terms of any contract being offered. 2 years/12 million might be what was guaranteed. Incentives might have bumped it to 12 million/year. There might have been a 3rd year player option. Who knows. No use speculating with so many uncertainties. 

 

I'm just glad we are still having conversations with SP free agents. Something is going to happen. Soon. I can feel it. 

Edited March 2, 2018 by cmoss84

 

$12M/2 years sounds low but it's better than $0M/0 years which appears to be the offer from just about everyone else.

Lynn's numbers and his abilities look destined to flop, at least in the AL.

Maybe this is the wrong way to look at things, but the division he pitched in had some pretty good hitting teams (Cubs/Reds/Brewers) and he pitched pretty well against some AL teams as well in inter league play. I would be confident when he pitches against the white sox, tigers, royals, and most AL teams. Much more confident than when our current 3-5 pitchers are on the bump. 

 

I honestly have no idea what to think of Sanchez. He has lost a bit of velo but nothing to the degree of, say, Hughes (~2mph for Sanchez, more like 3-4mph for Hughes).

 

He's only 34 years old, which isn't ancient. Unlike Hughes, if he is able to gain back even 1mph of velocity, he has the ability to rebound pretty significantly.

 

But I have no idea what caused the loss of velocity and whether it's anything that can ever rebound.

 

I'm interested in seeing what happens, but not particularly bullish on anything good coming from the signing.

I'd like to see Sanchez take up Pilates. Everybody should, except me. ;-)

 

Pilates is HARD.

 

Yeah that's the deal I signed out of little league and I'm still kicking myself more than 25 years later. Bet I could hit a baseball over that mountain.

Reminds me:

Why did the macho man kick apart the mountain? 

It was in his way.

2 for 12 seems like a good starting point. Lynn's camp can counter 4 for 50. Meet at 3 for 30ish, everybody happy.

Jim Bowden 

 

Several teams remain in on Cobb or Lynn including: Orioles, Phillies, Twins and Brewers but all are waiting for 3-Year deals under $50m so they don’t have to give up draft pick compensation according to sources...asking price remains above for now

 

I disagree. Hughes is healthy, has a clear preference for starting, and we still have 2/26 committed to him. Especially with Ervin out, I think he's basically guaranteed a month or two in the rotation to open the season (barring injury, of course).

 

Sanchez is the "6th starter" right now, insurance in case another SP gets injured this spring (so we don't have to force Duffey or Slegers into that role). I'd guess Sanchez also has an outside chance at taking Mejia's spot with a really good showing this spring, but I think Hughes is pretty safe for now -- what else could they realistically do with him?

So far Hughes has exceeded expectations by actually being able to pitch. I view the 'competition' almost as a competition to be healthy at the end of spring training. If both of them are then I think Mejia is the most likely loser since he has options. Not fair really since I think he is more likely to be better than either this year but it is always better to have more choices for the rotation than fewer.

 

Anyone else find it interesting that the Twins would be willing to offer Lance Lynn $10-$12 million over two years – when he received a qualifying offer of $17.4 million for one year, which, of course, he rejected?

It really isn't surprising at all. The 17.4M QO is no longer available and other players have struggled to sign deals that matched the yearly value of the QO. Those players usually had an issue with the punishing draft pick compensation attached to the signing but this winter has marked a significant hesitation from teams to sign 30 something yr old FA's to 4-5 year contracts.

 

Given how Gibson made an actual, trackable change in his approach late last season, I think he's almost a given for the rotation. More than Sanchez, anyway.

Oops, my mistake on that one. For some bizarre reason I wrote Gibson when I meant Hughes. Time for me to cut back on this beer consumption!

That would be a hilarious offer.