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    Andrew Thares

    After coming up short in their quest to sign Yu Darvish, the Twins were forced to turn their focus toward other pitchers on the free agent and trade markets in order to fill out their rotation. They have since added two starting pitchers, by taking a flyer on Anibal Sanchez, and making a trade with the Tampa Bay Rays for Jake Odorizzi.

    Theses moves added just under $9M to the Twins 2018 payroll, bringing the total to roughly $118M. However, it is reasonable to assume that if the Twins were willing to offer Yu Darvish a $20M+ per year deal, they might have more money available to make another addition to the rotation.

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    If the Twins were to make another move, many would assume it would be one of Jake Arrieta, Alex Cobb or Lance Lynn. According to a source close to Jon Heyman, he believes that Lance Lynn is a “pitcher of interest” for the Twins, and that he is favored by the Twins among the top three.

    The addition of Lance Lynn could be the move that takes the Twins rotation from one filled with question marks, to one with solidified depth. Right now, the Twins rotation to start the season would be Jose Berrios, Jake Odorizzi, Kyle Gibson, Alberto Mejia, and one of Phil Hughes, Tyler Duffey or Anibal Sanchez.

    Adding Lynn would give the Twins five starters that they can trust in their rotation until Ervin Santana returns, and provide added depth if one of the other starters goes down with an injury during the season.

    Lance Lynn had a strong performance in 2017, posting a 3.43 ERA (4.75 xFIP) over 186.1 innings, after coming back from Tommy John surgery. However, the inflated xFIP, along with a career low .244 BABIP last season cause some hesitation in thinking that Lynn will be able to replicate those numbers again in 2018.

    Another area of concern for Lance Lynn is his fastball velocity. Lynn is a pitcher who relies heavily on his four-seam, two-seam and cut fastballs, and last year he saw his average fastball velocity drop from the 92.4 MPH it was at in 2015, before his Tommy John surgery, down to 91.3 MPH. A 1.1 MPH drop may not sound like a lot, but when a pitcher is already throwing in the low 90’s every MPH is critical, and if that number were to drop any lower it could be detrimental for Lynn.

    There is one bright spot for Lynn coming off of 2017, and that was his 0.304 xwOBA. This ranked 45th amongst the 118 pitchers who threw at least 2,000 pitches last season. This suggests that Lynn was a slightly above average starting pitcher last season, and backs up his 3.43 ERA a lot better than his other peripheral metrics do.

    So, if the Twins really do have aspirations of signing Lance Lynn, what would it take to get him? At the beginning of the offseason MLB Trade Rumors predicted that Lance Lynn would receive an offer of 4-years and $56M. Given the way the market has panned out this winter, it might be easy to assume that Lynn would receive an offer south of that mark. However, unlike Darvish, I don’t think there will be too big of a drop from this price, if there is one at all. A big reason for this being that earlier in the offseason Tyler Chatwood signed a 3-year $38M deal with the Cubs.

    Given that Chatwood was considered to be a step down from Lynn entering this offseason, it would be hard to believe that Lynn would accept a deal that is equal to or less than that of Chatwood’s. If this is the case, it doesn’t leave the Twins a lot of wiggle room with either years or dollars for them to come down from the 4-years and $56M projection.

    Additionally, Lance Lynn received a qualifying offer from the Cardinals. If the Twins were to sign Lynn they would have to give up their third highest pick in the 2018 First Year Player Draft (75th overall). Though, unlike previous years under the old CBA, the Twins would have had to give up their top unprotected pick (20th overall). So, by comparison, giving up the 75th pick in the draft for an established major league pitcher isn’t a terrible trade-off, but it is still a factor that the Twins front office will need to take into consideration before making an offer for Lynn.

    Personally, I would like to see the Twins add another piece to their rotation, but the addition of Lance Lynn, or Cobb and Arrieta for that matter, seems a bit risky to me. If they are able to swoop in and get Lynn at an absolute bargain, I think they should make the move, otherwise they might be better off staying put, and look to invest more money into free agency next offseason.

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    Billy Ripken on MLB channel said he thinks Lynn should take that offer to re prove himself and maybe get a better deal later. I thought it was interesting that someone like Ripken is saying that maybe these guys should just sign. He said well he made 7.5 mil last season, probably shouldn't leave 20 mil sitting out there.

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    Billy Ripken on MLB channel said he thinks Lynn should take that offer to re prove himself and maybe get a better deal later. I thought it was interesting that someone like Ripken is saying that maybe these guys should just sign. He said well he made 7.5 mil last season, probably shouldn't leave 20 mil sitting out there.

    Maybe Lynn can push that up a little 2/25 with option and buyout....but I imagine the Yankees might jump in on 2/20.

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    Billy Ripken on MLB channel said he thinks Lynn should take that offer to re prove himself and maybe get a better deal later. I thought it was interesting that someone like Ripken is saying that maybe these guys should just sign. He said well he made 7.5 mil last season, probably shouldn't leave 20 mil sitting out there.

    If I was Lynn, I'd switch gears and ask for 1/$14m or something along those lines.

     

    And if I was in the Twins front office, I'd jump all over that deal.

    If you add Lynn to this roster, I think the Twins are an 80% chance for the postseason team with a 30% or better chance of taking the division.

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    I would be a little afraid signing any of the 3 top pitchers. Nobody has any clue what they have done since pitchers & catchers reported.  They may be behind and not ready to start or worse yet be likely to over due it and cause an injury.

     

    Just remember how good it worked out when the Twins signed Kendrys Morales. No spring training and never found his old form.

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    Could be just, hey you have a 20 million dollar offer or you sit out and get nothing. But yeah a two year deal doesn't make any sense from the players point of view unless there is a player opt out after year one if he lights the league on fire?

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    I would be a little afraid signing any of the 3 top pitchers. Nobody has any clue what they have done since pitchers & catchers reported. They may be behind and not ready to start or worse yet be likely to over due it and cause an injury.

     

    Just remember how good it worked out when the Twins signed Kendrys Morales. No spring training and never found his old form.

    Yeah, until he left.

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    I was always fairly high on Lynn, even last year towards the end of the season when free agency was first brought up. But now with Odorizzi and Morrison, I think Cobb might be a better fit chemistry wise. He would have some familiarity with some of his teammates.

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    I would be a little afraid signing any of the 3 top pitchers. Nobody has any clue what they have done since pitchers & catchers reported.  They may be behind and not ready to start or worse yet be likely to over due it and cause an injury.

     

    Just remember how good it worked out when the Twins signed Kendrys Morales. No spring training and never found his old form.

    The Twins signed Morales in June.

     

    Also, pitchers and catchers reported a bit more than two weeks ago and over three weeks are left in Spring Training. I'm pretty sure any pitcher signed today could catch up.

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    I suspect that  unless the Twins get a rock bottom price, they are loathe to give up a pick for a year or two of a pitcher that was going to be their 2nd or 3rd choice, at the very best. I'm just assuming they intend to be done (but you never know, injuries, etc.)

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    I suspect that  unless the Twins get a rock bottom price, they are loathe to give up a pick for a year or two of a pitcher that was going to be their 2nd or 3rd choice, at the very best. I'm just assuming they intend to be done (but you never know, injuries, etc.)

    But if you can get him on a one year deal and think he's adequate enough to hold down a #3-ish position, you can just offer a QO the following season.

     

    And given how the Twins are likely an 85-87 team as-is (screw you, projections), those extra 1-2 wins Lynn provides are huge. With a few small breaks, he could catapult the Twins into 90 win territory and possibly take the division.

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