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    Ted Schwerzler

    With the Twins having 33 games under their belt, the club has won just eight contests. They've been swept in a series seven times thus far, and the reality of the situation has gone from dire to laughable. While I don't contend that either Paul Molitor or Terry Ryan are the best for the organization going forward, a change there doesn't handle the immediate issues. So, how do you fix the Twins?

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    In an attempt to salvage what can be salvaged of the 2016 season, and put a best foot forward for 2017, here's the strategy I'm going with sooner rather than later.

    Move 1: Demote Eddie Rosario

    I've been telling you this would happen since way back in February. My comments on Eddie Rosario have generally been met with the question of why I "dislike him." That really couldn't be further from the truth. Rosario was my "Danny Santana" pick in 2015. He was the early call up who was going to force his way into the lineup and stick. It happened, but what also became apparent was that it wasn't sustainable.

    Some have tried to categorize Rosario as a "bad-ball hitter" but really, he isn't that. He's swung and missed over 19% of the time in 2016, and has chased pitches outside of the zone a staggering 40.6% of the time. His 67.7% contact rate is in line with a guy who hits a lot of balls out of the park. but that's not Rosario's game either. He saw an inflated OPS a season ago due to his MLB leading 15 triples, and that shouldn't have been expected to be repeated. Now, compounding the problem, Rosario has posted a negative defensive runs saved metric and isn't operating as an asset in the outfield.

    He's a guy who has long been talked about being bored on the farm. That may be fair, but his head isn't on straight, and he isn't above having to work at being good at this game. He needs to go down and rework his approach, while also figuring out who he wants to be between his ears.

    Move 2: Start Oswaldo Arcia, then trade him

    Fresh off of his 25th birthday, Oswaldo Arcia is still a part of the crop of youth the Twins employ. Despite being yanked around the last few seasons, and in part because of his lack of production, he's stuck with the Twins due to being out of options. Now drawing more regular starts due to Eddie Rosario's struggles, Arcia should be finding himself in the lineup every day.

    Arcia is always going to struggle against lefties, and his OPS in 2016 is nearly 70 points higher off of righties with all of his four homers coming against those pitchers. He can hit for power though, and despite facing shifts quite often at the plate, he's a capable power bat for a good club. He's just two seasons removed from being worth nearly 1.0 fWAR and remaining under team control until 2020 works to his value as well.

    You probably aren't going to get a huge return for him, but opening up some room for Move 3 to happen makes sense.

    Move 3: Promote Byron Buxton and Max Kepler

    It wasn't expected that Bryon Buxton would struggle so mightily to start off 2016, and it wasn't hoped that Max Kepler would be called up to be so poorly mismanaged by Paul Molitor. That said, both guys are beginning to force the Twins hand, and removing Rosario and Arcia from the picture could help to accommodate that.

    Over his last 12 games, Buxton is slashing .374/.423/.625. He's hitting for gap power, as well as putting the ball over the fence, and most importantly, his strikeout rate is reduced below 20%. Now finally getting consistent at bats (something Molitor stunted him of), Kepler is also heating up in Rochester slashing .324/.425/.529 across his last nine. Bring them up together, and make them your starting outfield along with Miguel Sano.

    In this scenario, both Buxton and Kepler are able to work towards being cornerstones of the future, while Sano is allowed to continue his transition. While much is made about Sano defensively, he's far from an issue when you look at the landscape of power bats playing right field (Jose Bautista, J.D. Martinez, Nelson Cruz...all are negative defenders). Danny Santana then returns to his super utility role that he's best suited for, and you have the largest amount of talent on the field at one time.

    Note that this is ove three. I'd look to see what can be done about at least move one or two before going here. I think that both Buxton and Kepler stand to benefit from playing at Rochester at least until early June.

    Move 4: Trade Jorge Polanco

    This move has been complicated in how Paul Molitor has used Polanco since Eduardo Escobar has landed on the disabled list. Polanco has long been one of the guys the Twins have promoted, gone unused, and then has been sent back down. He'll now be out of options in 2017 because of it, and the big league club has very little idea what he can do at the highest level.

    Polanco has not played shortstop at all, at any level, in 2016. He's probably not capable of playing the role at the big league level due to his tendency for errors. That being said, the Twins have a second basemen in Brian Dozier (and no I'm not worried about his slow start). If you aren't going to see what Polanco has while the already struggling Escobar is hurt, then there's no place for him on the Twins roster.

    It's pretty widely regarded that Polanco's bat is big league ready. His glove may not be, but playing at second should help to alleviate some of those concerns. I'd be shopping Polanco immediately and if a team would rather give you a decent haul for Brian Dozier, then sure go ahead and pursue that route. If both Polanco and Dozier are in the organization to begin 2017 however, the Twins may have fumbled an opportunity.

    Move 5: Promote J.T. Chargois and Alex Meyer

    This offseason, I was completely behind the idea of Terry Ryan standing somewhat pat on his pen. Sure, they weren't good a year ago, but it's also one of the organizations areas of strength. Fernando Abad looked like a shrewd signing from the get go, and has been absolutely that. Glen Perkins put the Twins in a bind, but they weren't going to be in the market for a closer. What has compounded the problem is the lack of follow through on what appeared to be the plan.

    Coming into the year, and now 26 years old, the Twins still seem lost as to what Alex Meyer is. He was worked as a starter in Rochester and dominated. Then he was promoted, went unused, was thrown into a start, imploded, and was demoted. Rather than seeing some time in relief, where he appears destined to succeed, the Twins continue to jerk their return for Denard Span around. He should be up in the big league pen generating strikeouts at a 10+ K/9 pace and hoping the command issues stay as they were to start in Rochester (see nonexistent).

    Along with Meyer, flame-throwing reliever J.T. Chargois could be up helping the Twins. He was dominant to start 2016 with Chattanooga, and appeared to have earned the call. His 10.8 K/9 and 1.54 ERA as the Double-A closer were more than respectable. When healthy, Chargois has been nearly as good as they come in the Twins system. Instead, he was handed a ticket to Triple-A Rochester.

    For a floundering team and struggling bullpen, the Twins saw fit to add guys like Pat Dean and Brandon Kintzler to the fold, despite having no real long term viability with the club.

    At the end of the day, this club is playing horrible baseball right now. Unlike the Atlanta Braves who are actually bad, the Twins are a average to good collection of players, all playing well below their capabilities (save Joe, Byung Ho, and one or two others). With the season where it is now, you don't throw in the towel, but if you aren't positioning for 2017 and working in some of the ones above, you're doing it wrong.

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    I would add trade Plouffe and put Sano back in the infield. That would give you room to promote Buxton and Kepler and play Arcia everyday. If I remember correctly, the Twins will have huge decisions to make on the 40-man this offseason

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    I agree with the people who said that finding out of May and Meyer can be parts of a future winning rotation is one of the most important issues to resolve. And a lost year is the perfect time to find out.

     

    What people often forget however is how how much of a strain that could put on an already struggling bullpen. The knock on May was he often couldn't make it six innings, and Meyer often couldn't make it three. If those problems continue who picks up the slack? It's a real concern.

     

    One answer might be, Hughes and Nolasco. If they get bumped to the bullpen, they could be the guys who mop up when May and Meyer leave early, which could be often.

     

    It may or may not be good for Meyer and May to take their knocks in the majors instead of working on specific pitches in the minors. I don't know. But if Nolasco and Hughes aren't long term answers, it's worth a try.

     

    If Hughes is still looked at as a potential rotation guy on a winning timea, it might benefit him to move to the bullpen a while anyway. But Nolasco they should probably only start to build up his trade value.

     

    On the whole I have no problem with letting Nolasco and Hughes start a little longer, if the reason is to give Meyer time to develop. I don't necessarily agree that the only way to develop a young player is to throw him out there in the majors and let him sink or swim. I don't think that worked for Gomez, Buxton, Meyer, etc. But if major league service time IS what they need, this is the perfect opportunity to do it.

     

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      On 5/15/2016 at 5:31 PM, by jiminy said:

    I agree with the people who said that finding out of May and Meyer can be parts of a future winning rotation is one of the most important issues to resolve. And a lost year is the perfect time to find out.

     

    What people often forget however is how how much of a strain that could put on an already struggling bullpen. The knock on May was he often couldn't make it six innings, and Meyer often couldn't make it three. If those problems continue who picks up the slack? It's a real concern.

     

    One answer might be, Hughes and Nolasco. If they get bumped to the bullpen, they could be the guys who mop up when May and Meyer leave early, which could be often.

     

    It may or may not be good for Meyer and May to take their knocks in the majors instead of working on specific pitches in the minors. I don't know. But if Nolasco and Hughes aren't long term answers, it's worth a try.

     

    If Hughes is still looked at as a potential rotation guy on a winning timea, it might benefit him to move to the bullpen a while anyway. But Nolasco they should probably only start to build up his trade value.

     

    On the whole I have no problem with letting Nolasco and Hughes start a little longer, if the reason is to give Meyer time to develop. I don't necessarily agree that the only way to develop a young player is to throw him out there in the majors and let him sink or swim. I don't think that worked for Gomez, Buxton, Meyer, etc. But if major league service time IS what they need, this is the perfect opportunity to do it.

     

    May and Meyer don't have to be put in the rotation at the exact same time.  But we can always add an extra pitcher to alleviate taxing the pen.  I mean, what good is a bench spot for a late inning pinch hitting attempt on a team that is going to win 50-60 games?  As long as the team is committed to something and the focus shifts, we can work around these things.

     

    But when you have a 50 win team that acts like this is game 163, then you have issues.

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    Baggy, good article, based on a realistic look at the mentality of team management. Different management would do it differently, prioritizing the development of the most important young players, before worrying about Casey Fien, Eddie Rosario, etc. In order:

     

    1. Decide what is more important for Miguel Sano to master, hitting major league pitching or playing right field. I'd pick hitting, a stubborn person would pick playing right field. If it's hitting that's most important, the first thing to do is move him to a position where he can focus on hitting. Sano to DH or 3B is the first step.

     

    2. Plouffe to OF or another team is the second step. Park/Mauer are DH/1B, unless Park is traded or someone decides that Mauer, like Yogi Berra, can play OF. Therefore, because step 1 will be complete by moving Sano to 3B, Plouffe has to move. Sorry, Trevor, you have built a good career and been a good team member. It's nothing personal, but, precisely because you have value, your final role for the Twins will be to be traded for someone better than Daniel Palka.

     

    3. Get Buxton's eye ready. Stop focusing on his outcomes; everyone knows that he is an uber athlete that can do amazing things if he hits the ball and gets on base. The primary task for him now is to increase his ratio of swings at hittable balls. When he displays mastery of the strike zone and breaking balls, bring him up and let him roll.

     

    4. Get Berrios to relax. One of the many downsides of the Twins' promotion processes is that players start thinking they have to be Superman to get promoted over the veteran scrubeenies ahead of them in the depth charts. Then, when they are promoted, there's an atmosphere of "Don't screw up." The result is that people try to be perfect. Berrios is the most talented pitcher in the system, including the major league staff. Tell him he's good, but that he doesn't need to strike out 12 a game to keep his job, and just let him pitch.

     

    5. Let Kepler hit. Joe Maddon recently said he wasn't going to promote someone because of an injury need because he wanted the player to complete his development. The Twins, of course, are competing for the first draft choice next year, instead of the World Series this year, so you'd think they would share that opinion, but for some cockamamie reason they seem to think it's better for developing players to sit on the bench of a losing team than to play everyday. Let Kepler play everyday. When he's succeeding regularly, bring him up. Regularly means more than 10 days. He'll be ready when he's hitting well the second time he sees teams.

     

    6. Polanco's next three years are likely to be better than Dozier's, at a much lower cost. In fact, his next three months could be better than Dozier's. Management should get what it can for Dozier, before the market is gone. If trade offers are sparse, he'd be a fine utility player, including OF. His hitting may even improve, as teams stop game planning for his tendencies. But Polanco should be 2B going forward.

     

    7. Stabilize the bullpen with veterans, namely displaced starters, starting with Phil Hughes and Tommy Milone. Over short periods, they should be able to get K/9 ratios above 10. Hughes should be able to let it fly for one inning a few times a week.

     

    8. Figure out Alex Meyer. He is talented. He started off the year in AAA great, until the management yo yo started. His weakness as a starter is not talent, but composure. Hopefully, Stu Cliburn and Neil Allen can focus on developing his composure. He should be as good as Juan Nicasio, and likely will be better, if given the right coaching.

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      On 5/15/2016 at 7:46 PM, Deduno Abides said:

    Baggy, good article, based on a realistic look at the mentality of team management. Different management would do it differently, prioritizing the development of the most important young players, before worrying about Casey Fien, Eddie Rosario, etc. In order:

     

    1. Decide what is more important for Miguel Sano to master, hitting major league pitching or playing right field. I'd pick hitting, a stubborn person would pick playing right field. If it's hitting that's most important, the first thing to do is move him to a position where he can focus on hitting. Sano to DH or 3B is the first step.

     

    2. Plouffe to OF or another team is the second step. Park/Mauer are DH/1B, unless Park is traded or someone decides that Mauer, like Yogi Berra, can play OF. Therefore, because step 1 will be complete by moving Sano to 3B, Plouffe has to move. Sorry, Trevor, you have built a good career and been a good team member. It's nothing personal, but, precisely because you have value, your final role for the Twins will be to be traded for someone better than Daniel Palka.

     

    3. Get Buxton's eye ready. Stop focusing on his outcomes; everyone knows that he is an uber athlete that can do amazing things if he hits the ball and gets on base. The primary task for him now is to increase his ratio of swings at hittable balls. When he displays mastery of the strike zone and breaking balls, bring him up and let him roll.

     

    4. Get Berrios to relax. One of the many downsides of the Twins' promotion processes is that players start thinking they have to be Superman to get promoted over the veteran scrubeenies ahead of them in the depth charts. Then, when they are promoted, there's an atmosphere of "Don't screw up." The result is that people try to be perfect. Berrios is the most talented pitcher in the system, including the major league staff. Tell him he's good, but that he doesn't need to strike out 12 a game to keep his job, and just let him pitch.

     

    5. Let Kepler hit. Joe Maddon recently said he wasn't going to promote someone because of an injury need because he wanted the player to complete his development. The Twins, of course, are competing for the first draft choice next year, instead of the World Series this year, so you'd think they would share that opinion, but for some cockamamie reason they seem to think it's better for developing players to sit on the bench of a losing team than to play everyday. Let Kepler play everyday. When he's succeeding regularly, bring him up. Regularly means more than 10 days. He'll be ready when he's hitting well the second time he sees teams.

     

    6. Polanco's next three years are likely to be better than Dozier's, at a much lower cost. In fact, his next three months could be better than Dozier's. Management should get what it can for Dozier, before the market is gone. If trade offers are sparse, he'd be a fine utility player, including OF. His hitting may even improve, as teams stop game planning for his tendencies. But Polanco should be 2B going forward.

     

    7. Stabilize the bullpen with veterans, namely displaced starters, starting with Phil Hughes and Tommy Milone. Over short periods, they should be able to get K/9 ratios above 10. Hughes should be able to let it fly for one inning a few times a week.

     

    8. Figure out Alex Meyer. He is talented. He started off the year in AAA great, until the management yo yo started. His weakness as a starter is not talent, but composure. Hopefully, Stu Cliburn and Neil Allen can focus on developing his composure. He should be as good as Juan Nicasio, and likely will be better, if given the right coaching.

    Great post.

    I agree nearly 100% on all points.

    The only addendum being I'd add to #7 moving May into the rotation.

    The club has claimed all along that they havent closed the book on him starting. Well, if there is ever going to be a golden opportunity to move him back, it's now.

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      On 5/15/2016 at 7:55 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

    Well, if there is ever going to be a golden opportunity to move him back, it's now.

     

    The irritating thing is the obvious move is to switch May and Hughes.  But Hughes contract will give him another 30 starts with a 5.00+ ERA.   This is not how winning franchises operate.

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    I think Brian Dozier is a better player now than Jorge Polanco and I think that it is pretty likely that Dozier will always be a better player than Polanco, but for the first time since Dozier emerged (three years ago), I believe that it may be time to move Dozier for a better fit on the team (Polanco). The assumption for a long time has been that soon the best two players on the team will be RH hitting youngsters Miguel Sano and Byron Buxton. I hope that day arrives some time in the second half of the year. Of the next five most established players on the Twins, four of them hit right handed (Dozier, Plouffe, Suzuki, and Park). Dozier, Plouffe and Park are all players whose power is a big portion of their value. I want to see more guys who make contact, provide speed and defense, who maybe can hit at the top of the order. The projection for Polanco fills that bill better than today's Dozier.

     

    As for playing Arcia for now and optioning Rosario, I get it. Right now Rosario is rolling a little better and Arcia is having a tough time. A week ago, the situation was reversed. Ideally, Rosario could be optioned, but until Buxton is ready, there really isn't anyone to replace Rosario, so I leave them alone for now and get both Arcia and Rosario enough at-bats. I don't think it would be a terrible idea to give Santana a day off or two, but I'm satisfied with his play in center and hitting ninth.

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    I have had this nagging thought on Dozier for the last month. While guys like Arcia and Rosario take some pretty silly at bats, they appear to be caused by impatience and poor zone recognition. Doziers problems seem caused by either stubbornness or selfishness. Continually trying to hit everything into the second row of the LF corner. For someone who is one of the faces of the team, and thought by some as a team leader, that approach makes for a poor example. I would get what I could for him and move on.

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    Agree with some, but not all of this.

     

    First, trading Plouffe should be at the top of any fix-the-Twins agenda. Trade Plouffe. Put Sano at third and put Arcia in right field, with Rosario in left and Santana in center until Buxton comes up.

     

    The problem with starting Arcia all the time is that your outfield defense suffers greatly. Rosario is struggling with the bat. But he brings some semblance of common sense to the outfield.

     

    I'd much rather trade Dozier than Polanco. You're not going to get much of a return for an unproven rookie, even one on the team's top 10 list. 

     

    To be honest, the best spot for Polanco might still be shortstop. But this team apparently doesn't want Polanco at short. So whatevs.

     

    I still think the Twins should be open to trading any number of players, including pitchers. I'd consider trading Abad, any starter not named Duffey or Berrios, Dozier, Plouffe, Arcia, Escobar. I'd ponder prospect-for-prospect trades. Anything to right this ship. Frankly, nothing should be off the table -- even a trade of Sano or Buxton if the deal were right. (That's "if the deal were right" so don't go assuming that I'd give them away.)

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      On 5/14/2016 at 8:48 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

    It's to soon to say if they sold high on Hicks, I'm not convinced we've seen the best of him yet.

     

    I won't say that necessarily either, but I think it was the right time based on what we've seen so far.

     

    They did at the time on Carlos Gomez, too. Then A. the Brewers eventually (not right away) let Gomez do whatever he wanted and B. the Twins foolishly then sold low on Hardy for some reason.

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    I am not sure whether this is preposterous or not, so be nice, but...

     

    The Yanks could use a 3b, so given his sophomore struggles, is there any chance Luis Severino could be had for Plouffe +?

     

    I guess they probably don't want to sell low, so nevermind.

     

    *clicks Post* "NO!!"

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      On 5/17/2016 at 2:57 AM, Brandon Warne said:

    He's exactly one month younger than Brian Dozier

    You're right. He does seem older than he is (29 next month), but he simply is not going to be a part of the future of this team. His BA is dropping by the day ... regression to the mean. He is what he is: nothing special. So why is he taking up space on a rebuilding team? Answer: I don't know.

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      On 5/14/2016 at 11:56 AM, diehardtwinsfan said:

    I wouldn't trade Arcia (not yet at least), nor would I promote Buxton and Kepler at this point.  Buxton is turning a corner and personally I'd like him to reinforce those better habits he's learning in AAA.  Kepler isn't doing well there at all. 

     

    Polanco is an odd situation.  He should be playing every day, why he's not up here I'm not sure.  As bad as the OF defense has been, I don't even understand why he cannot get the occasional OF start.  He cannot possibly be worse than Sano out there, but yeah, if they aren't going to play him, demote him or trade him.  The real problem with Polanco is that this is his last option year.  They need to figure out if he can stick at the ML level.

     

    Yeah I like that kid. Hope to see more of him

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      On 5/17/2016 at 3:59 AM, ScrapTheNickname said:

    You're right. He does seem older than he is (29 next month), but he simply is not going to be a part of the future of this team. His BA is dropping by the day ... regression to the mean. He is what he is: nothing special. So why is he taking up space on a rebuilding team? Answer: I don't know.

    I think coming through the minors Nunez was almost universally perceived to be a higher rated prospect and better overall prospect than Dozier, particularly defensively.  Then Dozier started blasting home runs suddenly and unpredictably.  You do know what you have in Nunez.  No one knows what we have with Dozier anymore.

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      On 5/17/2016 at 3:59 AM, ScrapTheNickname said:

    You're right. He does seem older than he is (29 next month), but he simply is not going to be a part of the future of this team. His BA is dropping by the day ... regression to the mean. He is what he is: nothing special. So why is he taking up space on a rebuilding team? Answer: I don't know.

     

    .300/.344/.445 over his last 316 PA (this year and last). Don't know about you, but I'd give that a longer look.

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      On 5/17/2016 at 5:03 PM, Brandon Warne said:

    .300/.344/.445 over his last 316 PA (this year and last). Don't know about you, but I'd give that a longer look.

    What's his babip over that stretch?

    It's .390 this season. (Career .302)

    Aside from that, he's a butcher in the field.

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      On 5/17/2016 at 5:34 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

    What's his babip over that stretch?
    It's .390 this season. (Career .302)
    Aside from that, he's a butcher in the field.

     

    It's .365 right now and it's .340 over this year and last. He's proven to be about 40 points away from that mark over his time with the Twins. He's hit .279 with the Twins overall, with a .320 BABIP in about a full season worth of PA.

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      On 5/17/2016 at 8:37 PM, Brandon Warne said:

    It's .365 right now and it's .340 over this year and last. He's proven to be about 40 points away from that mark over his time with the Twins. He's hit .279 with the Twins overall, with a .320 BABIP in about a full season worth of PA.

    So in other words this stretch of offense likely isn't sustainable once his babip normalizes.

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      On 5/17/2016 at 9:56 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

    So in other words this stretch of offense likely isn't sustainable once his babip normalizes.

     

    Doesn't have to. His norms are a .270 batting average and a .310 BABIP over 1300+ big league PAs.

     

    He doesn't have to keep hitting .330 to have value. I think that's where the craziness about him goes south for me. 

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      On 5/17/2016 at 10:27 PM, Brandon Warne said:

    Doesn't have to. His norms are a .270 batting average and a .310 BABIP over 1300+ big league PAs.

     

    He doesn't have to keep hitting .330 to have value. I think that's where the craziness about him goes south for me.

    1)I'm not saying he doesn't have value. I think he does. I'm on record in plenty of threads with how much I like him as a bench bat.

     

    2) No, not .330, but he does have to significantly out hit his career averages to be an everyday player, considering how bad he is in the field.

     

    3) I'm not arguing he doesn't belong on the team. I could go either way on that.

    I'm arguing he shouldn't be blocking Polanco.

    I'm sorry Brandon, with all due respect, I just think that's insane.

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      On 5/17/2016 at 11:50 PM, Mr. Brooks said:

    1)I'm not saying he doesn't have value. I think he does. I'm on record in plenty of threads with how much I like him as a bench bat.

    2) No, not .330, but he does have to significantly out hit his career averages to be an everyday player, considering how bad he is in the field.

    3) I'm not arguing he doesn't belong on the team. I could go either way on that.
    I'm arguing he shouldn't be blocking Polanco.
    I'm sorry Brandon, with all due respect, I just think that's insane.

     

    There's a reason the team doesn't think he can stick at short. Tonight is the first time he started there, and they've had ample opportunity to play him there and just haven't. 

     

    All I'm saying is the same arguments made for Polanco -- he can hit! he's not great defensively! -- apply for Nunez with less question marks for now. 

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      On 5/18/2016 at 12:34 AM, Brandon Warne said:

    There's a reason the team doesn't think he can stick at short. Tonight is the first time he started there, and they've had ample opportunity to play him there and just haven't.

     

    All I'm saying is the same arguments made for Polanco -- he can hit! he's not great defensively! -- apply for Nunez with less question marks for now.

    Well with all the mistakes and misevaluations that this organization has made the last few years, I don't think I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that Polanco can't play SS just because they say so.

     

    And if Polanco can't out hit Nunez (.709 career OPS, 93 OPS+), then I'm going to be very disappointed.

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      On 5/18/2016 at 1:31 AM, Mr. Brooks said:

    Well with all the mistakes and misevaluations that this organization has made the last few years, I don't think I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that Polanco can't play SS just because they say so.

    And if Polanco can't out hit Nunez (.709 career OPS, 93 OPS+), then I'm going to be very disappointed.

    Teams can and do misjudge a player's ability to make the adjustments, or improvements necessary to hit big league pitching.  It's a difficult and inexact thing to do.

     

    Teams rarely spend years looking at a guy play defense and err on the side of too much caution when it comes to playing middle infield.  If they have doubts about his ability to play SS in the big leagues, there's a very strong probability they're correct.

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      On 5/18/2016 at 1:35 AM, USAFChief said:

    Teams can and do misjudge a player's ability to make the adjustments, or improvements necessary to hit big league pitching. It's a difficult and inexact thing to do.

     

    Teams rarely spend years looking at a guy play defense and err on the side of too much caution when it comes to playing middle infield. If they have doubts about his ability to play SS in the big leagues, there's a very strong probability they're correct.

    I'll have to respectfully disagree.

    I'm at a point with this organization where I don't really think they are competent at any aspect, aside from maybe concessions at Target Field.

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      On 5/18/2016 at 1:31 AM, Mr. Brooks said:

    Well with all the mistakes and misevaluations that this organization has made the last few years, I don't think I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that Polanco can't play SS just because they say so.

    And if Polanco can't out hit Nunez (.709 career OPS, 93 OPS+), then I'm going to be very disappointed.

     

    As I wrote today -- and I'm not saying you have to have read it, just making conversation -- there's a big divide between what Nunez did with the Yankees and the Twins. He's been better than that as a Twin by a fair margin.

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      On 5/18/2016 at 1:47 AM, Brandon Warne said:

    As I wrote today -- and I'm not saying you have to have read it, just making conversation -- there's a big divide between what Nunez did with the Yankees and the Twins. He's been better than that as a Twin by a fair margin.

    I think he's been better, but I don't think the margin is as wide as you do, I think it's mostly luck based.

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