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    Daniel Wade

    The bright spots for the Twins have been few and far between this season, but they have been there. Joe Mauer’s hot start, Byung-Ho Park’s chase for the Golden Sledgehammer -- HitTrackerOnline’s award for the longest average HR distance -- and the beginning of Robbie Grossman’s Hall-of-Fame run have been unexpected joys. None of these, however, can hold a candle to Eduardo Nunez’s start.

    Going into Friday’s game, Nunez was hitting .328/.355/.531 with 12 SB, 9 HR, and a team-best 1.5 fWAR. His 139 wRC+ means he’s nearly 40 percent better than the league-average hitters and while his defense isn’t well-liked by the advanced metrics, he has looked better than previous seasons and has been acceptable filling in for Trevor Plouffe and Eduardo Escobar as needed. More than just being one of the most fun players the Twins have on the roster right now, Nunez is one of the very few producing value above what was expected of him. Which, of course, means that he’s the hottest piece of trade bait the Twins have, or so many believe.

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    Nunez has been better in the first 10 weeks of this season than he has been in the rest of his career. Combined. Prior to joining the Twins, Nunez had been worth about -1.7 fWAR due in large part to his terrible defense, though he was consistently about 15-20 percent below league average offensively as well, albeit in very limited playing time. Last season, he was surprisingly effective as a bench bat, hitting .282/.327/.431 in 204 PAs, but he’s taken another leap forward this year, driven largely by 54 point rise in his isolated power.

    Sustainability is an odd question when it comes to Nunez. His hard-hit rate is up three percentage points, which is good to see, but it’s not enough to explain the fact that his BABIP is nearly 50 points above his career average. He’s hitting more fly balls, and using more of the field, which is always a good thing, but again, it’s not setting the kind of foundation that makes the changes in his game feel like they’ll hold long term. Maybe he sustains it for a full season -- weird seasons like this happen -- or maybe he starts regressing in the summer heat after the best half-season he’s ever had, but either way, it’s hard to look at the first two-plus months of the season and say “this time next season, he’ll probably a similar player.”

    To understand what the return from trading Nunez would look like, consider a player moved at last year’s deadline. Gerardo Parra was hitting well for the Brewers, .328/.369/.517 with 9 SB and 9 HR. His defense had slipped a bit from it’s previously Gold Glove-caliber level, but probably wasn’t as bad as the advanced numbers said he was. A year younger than Nunez is now, with a far better pedigree, and shockingly similar half-season numbers to Nunez’s current line, Parra was dealt from last-place Milwaukee to a contender that needed help, the Baltimore Orioles. This is pretty much the best case scenario for the selling team, and it netted them... Zach Davies.

    Even though he was just a 26th round pick, Davies entered the 2015 season as the Orioles’ sixth ranked prospect according to Baseball America -- though he was just the 15th best prospect in the Brewers’ system heading into this year. He’s been serviceable, just a touch below league-average in his 10 starts this season, and he’s 23, so there’s room to project growth. His average fastball velocity sits a hair below 90 mph; one of his top comparables according to Baseball Prospectus is former Twin Anthony Swarzak. So to recap: This trade went about as well as it could have for the Brewers, they gave up a better player than Nunez, and the piece they got back is interesting but ultimately the type of player that can be acquired in a number of different ways. To get a player with a higher ceiling means taking on more risk and getting a player further from the majors. Trades like that happen every year -- my passable known quantity for your potentially interesting dice roll -- and the outcome can generally be summed up with “prospects will break your heart.”

    Good, bad, and indifferent, Nunez’s profile isn’t unknown in baseball. His career with the Yankees was underwhelming and well-televised, and while his value has risen a fair bit since coming to the Twins, it isn’t as though he has become Yoenis Cespedes. If a team needs a super-utility player who can hit reasonably well, Nunez is definitely on their radar, but that isn’t the profile you give up a top prospect for, and maybe not even a B-level prospect if the team doesn’t have a specific need he’s filling.

    This is not to say that the Twins definitely should keep Nunez; if Dave Stewart wants to continue emptying out the Diamondbacks’ farm system for questionable returns, by all means the Twins should be willing to facilitate that. Even if someone offers a Davies-caliber player, the team should make that move in an effort to set up for 2017 and beyond. The point is simply that trading Nunez isn’t a pathetically obvious move to make and only a brain-dead fool would miss this chance. The return is likely to be either underwhelming or risky and that assumes there’s a market for him at all.

    Major league GMs aren’t dumb. Usually. They’re not going to be so dazzled by Nunez’s performance over 210 PAs that they forget to look at the preceding five lines on his Baseball-Reference page. If they do move him, great, there’s nothing better than capitalizing on an asset at peak value. If they don’t, enjoy the fact that he’s allergic to batting helmets and that he has been consistently fun to watch, even when the rest of the team has not.

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    He inability to field will make it so difficult to sell him. Two double play ball throws to Dozier today. One was bad but Dozier did a great job of staying in the bag and getting the ball. The other cost 2 runs. Even on the early fielding play to his right, his feet work put him in a poor position to throw and Mauer received the ball in foul territory. I have been thinking his only position is 3B. After today, I can't imagine any winning team would see him as a starting solution anywhere in the field.

     

    Utility fielders won't get much return.

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    He inability to field will make it so difficult to sell him. Two double play ball throws to Dozier today. One was bad but Dozier did a great job of staying in the bag and getting the ball. The other cost 2 runs. Even on the early fielding play to his right, his feet work put him in a poor position to throw and Mauer received the ball in foul territory. I have been thinking his only position is 3B. After today, I can't imagine any winning team would see him as a starting solution anywhere in the field.

    Utility fielders won't get much return.

    Everyone knows his fielding is below average. But I would think he could generate interest from an NL team for use as a pinch hitter who could enter the game afterward.

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    He has two position for which he has played 900 innings in his career. The other positions have samples not near enough to look at UZR.

     

    Of all third baseman his career USR/150 is only better than Ryan Braun. Braun played 3B in 2007 and the Brewers found him a new position.

     

    Of all shortstops, his UZR/150 is only better than Dee Gordon and Jonathan Villar. Gordon hasn't played SS since 2013. Villar persists until Arcia arrives.

     

    Poor defense leads to extended innings, shortened starts and stressed bullpens. Hallmarks of a losing team.

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    Any argument for not trading Eduardo Nunez will fail. I would trade him for a top 250 prospect in a heartbeat.

    If I could get that for Dozier, I'd do that in a heartbeat too.  That's not really a knock on him as much as I think assets that could be used to acquire other assets and allow a guy like Polanco to move up is the direction that this team needs to head in.

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    Any argument for not trading Eduardo Nunez will fail. I would trade him for a top 250 prospect in a heartbeat.

    I think anyone would. If that doesn't happen, we can knock TR for not selling high as if players ride this month to month roller coaster of radically changing value. Value is created over years and not partial seasons. Nunez has increased his value from the level of DFA in 2014. It is a long way from DFA to top 250 prospect. It only takes one desperate team though. We can hope.

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    Is there any position where Nunez can help a winning team? I can't imagine how teams watching his most recent game at 3B or last night's game at SS could possibly want him in their infield. It isn't just error in the fourth. The ground ball from Pujols should have been an out at first in the fifth.

     

    Should the Twins see if he can play RF while Sano is out?

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    Tangential question about Nunez: what happens if his helmet comes off and interferes with a fielder or a ball in play?  I noticed this possibility on a couple plays recently, one where his helmet bounced in front of the first baseman fielding a throw while Nunez was trying to beat out a grounder, and again last night where it bounced in front of the second baseman while Nunez was running to second on a Mauer groundout to second.

     

    This link suggests it would remain a live ball unless the umpires rule there was intent to interfere:

    https://m.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/2sdded/becoming_an_umpire_need_help_with_a_question/

     

    But it happens so consistently with Nunez, even on routine plays, that losing his helmet seems to be an intentional act, and I think an umpire or the league would be warranted in warning the player and team that any interference from his helmet would be ruled intentional.

     

    I hope the issue comes up during a pennant race this year. :)

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    I have stated on here multiple times I am in the minority and against trading Nunez. 

     

    Yes I am aware of his Defensive flaws. I also know the Twins haven't had an above average Shortstop since Christian Guzman. 

     

    Right now I personally believe his value to as a players on the Twins exceeds the value he would retrieve in a trade.  Polanco is not the future Shortstop, he is a 2nd baseman.  The SS of the Future is in A ball today.

     

    If Nunez comes back next year and continues play at a level similar to this year, what is wrong with that?  It only increases his value as a trade chip in future years.  I would be willing to bet he can be a consistent .290/.330/.430 hitter.  I'll take that as my shortstop, especially knowing a younger higher ceiling player is waiting the minors a few years out.

     

    When there is a viable replacement, then trade him.

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    I have stated on here multiple times I am in the minority and against trading Nunez. 

     

    Yes I am aware of his Defensive flaws. I also know the Twins haven't had an above average Shortstop since Christian Guzman. 

     

    Right now I personally believe his value to as a players on the Twins exceeds the value he would retrieve in a trade.  Polanco is not the future Shortstop, he is a 2nd baseman.  The SS of the Future is in A ball today.

     

    If Nunez comes back next year and continues play at a level similar to this year, what is wrong with that?  It only increases his value as a trade chip in future years.  I would be willing to bet he can be a consistent .290/.330/.430 hitter.  I'll take that as my shortstop, especially knowing a younger higher ceiling player is waiting the minors a few years out.

     

    When there is a viable replacement, then trade him.

     

    What if he comes back and is bad again, like he has been in the past?

     

    Of course if he comes back and is good, that's good......but is that likely? Really likely?

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    What if he comes back and is bad again, like he has been in the past?

     

    Of course if he comes back and is good, that's good......but is that likely? Really likely?

    If he comes back and is bad then we have a back-up.  He has always been at least back up level.  I don't think he brings back a difference making player in return.  So might as well hold onto him since there is no one banging down the door to play SS.

     

    If there is a trade that nets a player at a position of need that is an incrementally better player than we have anywhere in our system that is close to MLB, then go ahead and trade him. 

     

    Basically, he intrigues me and I think he can be slightly better than average even when he isn't playing at his best.

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