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    Parker Hageman

    For the Minnesota Twins, two events in this past week bookend a disappointing era for first-round draft picks.

    On Friday it was announced that the team’s 55th pick overall in 2011, pitcher Hudson Boyd, was suspended for 50 games for a second violation of a drug of abuse. Two days later, Chris Parmelee, who was drafted 20th overall in 2006, signed a minor league contract with the Baltimore Orioles after he was released by the Twins earlier in the offseason.

    Without much to show from their first-round picks from 2006 through 2011, how bad has it been for the Twins compared to other teams?

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    When you consider the production provided from 11 first-round picks in those six years, the Twins are near the bottom of the league. The 6.5 wins above replacement (WAR) is the sixth-lowest return on investment among all the major league teams in that span. Only the Indians, Rockies, Padres, Red Sox and Phillies managed to get less value out of their first round picks.

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    To make matters worse, it is not just the fact that first-round picks have failed to perform for the Twins, it is that they have had troubles even reaching the game’s highest level. Just four of the 11 picks have made it through the system. Only the Atlanta Braves, San Diego Padres and Tampa Bay Rays have churned out a lower percentage of major league players than Minnesota.

    Draft position factors in quite a lot as to what level of talent is available, but having a high pick does not guarantee success either. For instance, in those six years the Kansas City Royals found themselves selecting at a median spot of fourth but wound up with 15.7 runs above replacement for seven players in what were highly coveted draft positions. On the other hand, the Cincinnati Reds drafted at a median spot of 15 and had a return of 44.5 wins above replacement (the fourth best in that time) on their nine players.

    “You cannot go into the draft saying, ‘we’re going to take position players this year,” said Roy Clark, a former Atlanta Braves scouting director and recent national cross-checker for the Los Angeles Dodgers, in the book ‘Scouts Honor’. “And then all of a sudden, we’re picking seventy-first, and all of the position players are gone or all of the good pitchers are gone. You never know who is going to be there. I like picking thirtieth every year. I want to pick thirtieth every year.”

    Based on that, Clark surely must have been envious of the Reds’ recent draft positions which were huddled in his sweet spot of the first rounds. Those selections turned into major league contributors in Drew Stubbs, Devin Mesoraco and Yasmani Grandal and resulted in the fourth most wins above replacement in that time frame. Meanwhile, in the same period, the Twins were drafting slightly lower than Clark’s ideal spot - and certainly further down the list than the Reds.

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    It didn’t always used to be this way for the Twins. While sitting in Terry Ryan’s office earlier this winter, the topic of the 1989 amatuer draft came up.

    When reviewing the first four picks by the Twins at Baseball-Reference.com, one cannot help but be impressed by the fruit that that draft bore. It was a work of art in the scouting world -- probably something veteran scouts talk about over bourbon and cigars.

    That year’s draft provided the Twins with two vital components to their eventual World Series title in 1991: a top of the lineup catalyst and an excellent defender at a key up-the-middle position in Chuck Knoblauch (1st round, 25th overall) and a 20-game winner in Scott Erickson (4th, 112th overall). In between was left-handed pitcher Denny Neagle (3rd, 85th) from the University of Minnesota, who would later be flipped to Pittsburgh in 1992 so the Twins could acquire 20-game winner John Smiley, and go on to have a solid career of his own.

    Of course, in addition to noticing the noteworthy careers of Knoblauch, Neagle and Erickson, one cannot also help but be drawn to the one name on the Baseball-Reference.com list that does not include a hyperlink to a major league career: John Gumpf.

    “Gumpf,” Ryan said to himself in his office while reminiscing about the draft that helped lay a foundation for the organization’s second World Series title. He shook his head and seemed to be kicking himself all over again. He and his staff had gone three-for-four but swung and missed badly on that second pitch.

    As the team’s scouting director, Ryan was at the helm of his third amateur draft in 1989. They were looking to supplement the farm system with power and Gumpf’s name surfaced in the war room while the team was on the clock. Reports on the high school kid from Riverside, CA said he had plenty of pop in his bat. With the fifty-fifth overall pick -- the same spot in which the Twins would take high school pitcher Hudson Boyd twenty-two years later -- they added their slugger.

    Or so they thought.

    Gumpf’s professional career never amount to much. Over four seasons in the minors, he knocked out 15 home runs in 291 games and retired with a .329 slugging percentage over his minor league career.

    How did that happen? How did the Twins who were on a roll miss so poorly with their second pick? Ryan shrugged. Couldn’t make an adjustment here or didn’t make an adjustment there or maybe the reports were overblown. Either way, Gumpf was out of professional baseball and that year’s draft was a resounding success.

    Sometimes you just miss.

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    Did the Twins scouting department lose its innovative edge from the era in which they were winning drafts? Have they since been outmaneuvered by other teams who have found ways to exploit the draft? Did the development system fail the players? Is this simply a case of bad luck in what is after all a small sample size?

    Going back to 2006 through 2011, teams with picks in the top ten -- the Rays, the Giants, the Dodgers -- were able to lock in marquee picks like David Price, Madison Bumgarner and Clayton Kershaw. Naturally they wound up getting plenty of value from those players. Those outside of that area either had to spend additional money (like the Tigers in landing Rick Porcello) or just simply had to be better than everyone else at evaluating talent. The St. Louis Cardinals seemed to exemplify that.

    With their lowest pick at 13th, much like the Minnesota Twins, the majority of the Cardinals' first rounders came on the wrong side of 25. Nevertheless, they were able to generate 23.7 WAR while graduating 72% of their first rounders so they could help the parent company. Part of it helps to be lucky but, like Branch Rickey touted, luck is the residue of design.

    As a team that was selecting players in the latter portions of the draft, the Cardinals found success by ensuring the lines of communication were open among all departments.

    “[W]e had a great interaction between scouting and player development,” former Cardinals scouting director and now Astros’ GM Jeff Luhnow told FoxSports.com in regard to what made his 2009 draft class so special. “[Cardinals chairman and CEO] Bill DeWitt’s responsible for that; it’s his vision. My first charter was to coordinate between different silos – there was a scouting silo, a player-development silo; it happens – so I took everyone on an international trip. Eventually there was a process in place. Analytics, scouting, medical, mechanics: Ultimately everything has to come together in a ranking. It’s not absolute, but a guide. Partly art, partly science.”

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    Despite losing Parmelee for nothing, the Twins still have several players who could provide value to rescue their numbers.

    Kyle Gibson (22nd overall, 2009) is coming off a year where he became a stabilizing force in the rotation and could make big steps forward in 2015. Meanwhile, from 2006 to 2011, the highest the Twins drafted was 14th in 2008 and that resulted in Aaron Hicks. At his age, Hicks still has every opportunity to provide positive value but has plenty of adjustments to make in order to do so. Same goes for Levi Michael, Travis Harrison, Alex Wimmers and Boyd. But picks like Matt Bashore, Carlos Gutierrez and Shooter Hunt are forever filed under missed opportunities.

    The cyclical nature of the draft seems to have paved the way for a brighter future for the team. After several years of underperforming because of poor returns in the first round, the Twins were able to make selections when premium talent was still on the board. Byron Buxton, Jose Berrios, Luke Bard, Kohl Stewart and Nick Gordon have the makings to provide a solid foundation.

    Of course, if and/or when the team begins to win again, learning from mistakes and ensuring that the draft continues to provide major league talent should be a top priority.

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    Over the same time period

     

    Josmil Pinto - signed 2006

    Oswaldo Arcia - signed 2007

    Danny Santana - signed 2007

    Miguel Sano - signed 2009

    Jorge Polanco - signed 2009

    Max Kepler - signed 2009

    Kennys Vargas - signed 2009

    Looks like a good start for a new thread about International Free Agent signings and how we compare to other teams in that regard. Doesn't pertain to the topic of this thread, but it is interesting and I'm sure there are many who would love to read that thread.

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    Respectfully, that is not really the case. Parker's analysis includes players that were drafted before the Twins had the chance to pick.  My analysis includes player we could have actually taken.

     

    The  Red Sox had a draft position similar to us over this period.  The Red Sox actually had 15 first round picks if we add the supplementals as we did for the Twins, only two players have reached the big leagues (Bard and Kelly), for a total Bref WAR of 3.4. 

     

    Right, but as Parker said - the Twins could have taken anyone still on the board after them so whether you pick 5 or 10 after is really irrelevant.  Given the choice the Twins made, relative to their options, they have underwhelmed.

     

    You'll note in his initial post that Parker said that the Red Sox were one of the teams we have done better than so far.

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    If we're trying to look for causes of sucking so bad for the last four years (2011-2014), what are the right draft years to look at?  I'm thinking 2003-2009. 

     

    Before 2003, those guys have mostly all used up their six-years of arb control by early in our downturn.  After 2009, it's very TBD (but to be transparent, the Twins top picks don't look promising in '10 or '11).

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    I loved the article.  The analysis of the analysis misses the point.  There is a correlation between good drafting and good results in the MLB standings.  The Twins were often afraid of the agents or the potential bonuses if I remember the headlines from those years.  We drafted safe!  

     

    There is something to say about looking at the percent from the entire draft, but like football - it is round one that headlines the draft.  We can say that there are a lot of factors that come in to play, but that is why we now use so many tools and the Twins have never been at the forefront of new analysis.

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    In Parker's time period the Twins drafted players between picks 14 and 50 in the first round. Of those 11 picks 4 have made it to the major leagues and have produced positive bWAR. Of the 222 players drafted in that time frame in those slots 67 have made it to the majors and have produced positive bWAR. From that standpoint the Twins do not look bad. Over that time period 27 players in that group have produced at least 4 bWAR, the Twins drafted one. Again,for those players drafted. The Twins sucess rate was about average. Unfortunately, they needed to do better than average. They needed to be lucky and get a very good player, 7 over that time period have produced a bWAR greater than 10, and they did not.

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    Jay,

     

    I think one could argue going back farther than 2006. High school players can take 5 to 6 years before they arrive and accumulate WAR. Most college players are down at least 2 years.

     

    If you add 2004 and 2005 the twins add Perkins, plouffe, and garza. We have from that point six players that have arrived (hicks, Gibson, revere, garza, plouffe, and Perkins). Given the lowest pick we had was I believe hicks at 14, I am guessing that draft record is in the top half, maybe even before an adjustment for draft position.

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    Jay,

     

    I think one could argue going back farther than 2006. High school players can take 5 to 6 years before they arrive and accumulate WAR. Most college players are down at least 2 years.

     

    If you add 2004 and 2005 the twins add Perkins, plouffe, and garza. We have from that point six players that have arrived (hicks, Gibson, revere, garza, plouffe, and Perkins). Given the lowest pick we had was I believe hicks at 14, I am guessing that draft record is in the top half, maybe even before an adjustment for draft position.

    Hank Sanchez, Kyle Waldrop, Matt Fox and Jay Ranville kind of negate a little bit of the luster from those 3 drafts

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    From 2006-2011 the Twins had a lot of first round bust... it might not be a coincidence that Bill Smith was in charge from 2007-2011.  

    Can't be totally his fault, but still, the timelines seem to match.  Though hopefully when you're getting top 5 picks (like after 2011), you're not completely missing.  Also, wasn't Revere a first round pick in 2007?

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    Hank Sanchez, Kyle Waldrop, Matt Fox and Jay Ranville kind of negate a little bit of the luster from those 3 drafts

     

    Wait, you have given up on Jay Ranvile? This guy has potential.  I kid.

     

    Plouffe, Perkins, and Garza repesent 28.6 WAR according to Bref.  That would definitely be a net positive, even if you include the busts from those two drafts.

     

    Just for fun, Delmon had a WAR of 1.1 while here, from 2008 to 2011.  During that stretch, Garza accumulated 11.3. It was actually the best stretch of Garza's career by WAR. Ouch.

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    He had a lot of first round busts, but he did quite well internationally.  Smith was a bad GM, but I will say that his work with the farm system wasn't really his downfall. 

    Carl Pohlad deserves almost all of the criticism for the past under-performing scouting and development infrastructure, and Calvin deserves the rest. Andy MacPhail, Jim Pohlad and others were unable to convince him to  increase the budget prior to revenue-sharing. They tried hard. When they finally got his blessing to build up personnel and facilities and increase their focus in Latin America, Smith was put in charge of the academy piece, and I recall him saying it would take a decade before the new scouts had developed strong enough connections, etc. to get them in a position to go head to head for talent against the teams with established beachheads. Back in those days, the talent was even more controlled by agents than nowadays.

     

    Things are different now, and there's no excuse for being below average in terms of draft results any more. But still, when we compare results, if we're including selections 10 picks ahead or 10 picks behind the Twin's selection in any given year, we're creating a muddled picture, in my opinion. Also, we're doing the same if we don't give a mulligan to teams when injury dooms a prospect. The Cards lost Tavaras to an auto accident. Does that make them a worse drafter?

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    Alright, here's the blog with some number-crunching analysis:

    http://twinsdaily.com/blog/237/entry-6328-comparing-first-round-draft-pick-performance/

     

    To summarize, the total WAR from Twins first round draft picks (2003-2011) after accounting for draft position and total number of picks should have been right at league average.  The results came in a bit below that, but not at the bottom of the league. 

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    Over the same time period

     

    Josmil Pinto - signed 2006

    Oswaldo Arcia - signed 2007

    Danny Santana - signed 2007

    Miguel Sano - signed 2009

    Jorge Polanco - signed 2009

    Max Kepler - signed 2009

    Kennys Vargas - signed 2009

    Since these international signings have been brought up,

     

    Here's a story that talks about international FA signings and what rewards the teams have had at the major league level.  Not for the faint of heart.  Guess which team has accumulated the least amount of b-WAR? They decided to use b-WAR, not sure why.

     

    Here's a disclaimer: 'This time I will only be tallying which team signed which player as an international free agents — I will not be tallying other MLB teams that each player eventually played for during their careers stateside. Players who were born in these countries but who were eventually drafted in the rookie draft are excluded from the count'.  This is because this article is about international scouting.

     

    Another point, about the WAR tally in the article, 'The WAR tallies in the table below use Baseball Reference’s WAR and only include value that the player accumulated when with the team that originally signed him. (I.e., the Mariners do not reap the bounty of Choo’s production because they traded him just a few dozen games into his big league career.)'

     

     

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/which-mlb-teams-are-blazing-new-trails-in-scouting/

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