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  • Diving Into The Offseason: A Buxton Extension?


    Seth Stohs

    Last week, I considered what a potential long-term extension might look like for All Star Brian Dozier. Today, I want to do a little digging on what a potential long-term deal might be for Byron Buxton.

    Buxton will not be arbitration-eligible until after the 2018 season. He will have three years of arbitration before becoming a free agent (both sentences assuming that he is done with the minor leagues). While the Twins certainly should not feel like they have to sign him now, this might be the best time to get him at a reasonable cost.

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    As we did in the Dozier article, research was done to consider comparable deals. It can be more difficult to find guys who have signed long-term deals after just over two years of service time, and how many of them put up over four WAR in large part due to his defense? But we tried and we’ll use the information we find to try to project what it might take to sign Buxton to an extension.

    For this analysis, let’s start out at the top of the spectrum. Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are at the top of the pay scales. One could argue that they are, especially considering their ages and ages at debut, the two more valuable players in the game today.

    Byron Buxton is at 2.064 years of service. That means, he will be arbitration-eligible following the 2018 season.

    Mike Trout signed for $1 million in 2014, his final pre-arbitration salary. Following another MVP caliber season, Trout signed a huge six year, $144.5 extension that bought out his three arbitration years and three years of free agency. His three arbitration-year salaries were $5.25 million, $15.25 million and $19.25 million. He then will get $33.25 million each of the next three years (those bought-out free agent years).

    Bryce Harper was the #1 overall pick in the 2010 draft to a Major League contract. He came up quickly and following the 2014 season, he was already approaching arbitration. Instead, he and the Nationals ripped up the final year of his original deal, and he signed for $2.5 million in 2015 and $5.0 million in 2016. He made $13.625 million this season, and earlier in the year, he signed for $21.65 million in what would have been his fourth arbitration year.

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    *TBD will equal some really, really big numbers

    Now, Byron Buxton isn’t going to command the same contracts as Trout or Harper if he signs now. Those guys had MVPs and All Star experiences under their belt. Buxton’ hasn’t yet, but his 3.5 bWAR based highly on his defense certainly point in the direction of him being at a level just below those top two guys.

    So who are some others who signed this type of deal?

    In the chart below, I’ve listed some players that I think would be pretty comparable to where Buxton is right now, guys who signed long-term extensions. I should note that Christian Yelich signed his deal one year earlier in the process.

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    Justin Upton was the most established at the point of his deal. He was also drafted at the top of his draft. Juan Lugares has won a Gold Glove. Odubel Herrera was an All Star. Christian Yelich was a high-ranking prospect of the Marlins and was part of Team USA this year. I also included Andrelton Simmons. Despite the fact that he’s an infielder, I think he is a good comp for Buxton. Early in Simmons’ career, he really struggled offensively, but his glove was elite. He won several Gold Gloves and was generally considered the best defensive player in baseball for several years. I think Buxton fits into that category, but at the same time, Buxton’s offensive potential is significantly higher.

    So with that information as the background, he is an estimate of the parameters that might make sense for a Buxton extension.

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    That would equate to a seven year, $76.5 million.Obviously that is a huge investment, but Buxton still has a ton of potential beyond his golden glove and speed. He has power to go with it, and if he can reduce his strikeouts the way he did in 2017 again, he will be a multi-time All Star, and a potential MVP candidate.

    There is risk for the Twins, but if the Twins choose to go year to year with Buxton, he could cost more per year and could be gone to free agency after the 2021 season. However, the risk for the Twins in not signing him this offseason is that he could take another step forward offensively and end up with 30-50% higher annual salaries if they did a deal in a year. Of course, with Buxton banging into walls with frequency, injury is a potential risk as well.

    The risk for Buxton is just that. He could potentially make quite a bit more by going year to year and then become a free agent at age 28. At that time, he could look for an eight to ten year deal.

    So what do you think? Should the Twins consider a multi-year extension for Buxton? At what point would you be less comfortable? How many years of risk would you be willing to take while at the same time being realistic? Discuss.

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    I think Buxton would get a lot more than 100m. He's much closer to Trout's contract than Upton's, which is 7 years old already and he signed it coming off a down year.

     

    Buxton was a 5 WAR player this year and everyone thinks this will be his worst year for some time. He's going to be a FA at 28. He has no incentive to give away his age 28-30 years for essentially a promise of 24m through his arbitration years - which are also set too low by probably 10m.   When he gets to FA, he's going to be one of the 10 highest paid players in baseball. And it probably won't be by the Pohlads.

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    Buxton is pretty much in the driver's seat for any contract negotiation. He's already had a share of "life changing" money, and should be in a position to gamble on himself if he chooses to do so. 

     

    It's in the Twins' best interest to lock him up ASAP before next year's FA class breaks the salary scale as we know it. I just don't know if the team really had an opportunity to offer a lengthy contract extension buying out FA years. 

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    Buxton hasn't proven to be a $100M player yet.  The last few months he was there, but hasn't done it for a season or 2 yet.  I think the Twins could get him to sign something in that $75M-$100M range.  That's life changing money for someone who is already a millionaire.  It gives him and his family stability and makes him not have to worry about getting to that next milestone of FA.  

     

    Rip up his deal.  Give him a bump this year to $3M.  Then buy out his Arb Years and 3 years of FA.  I'd suggest:

     

    2018  $3m   - Pre-Arb

    2019  $6m   - Arb 1

    2020  $10m - Arb 2

    2021  $12m - Arb 3

    2022  $17m - FA 1

    2023  $18m - FA 2

    2024  $19m - FA 3

    Total: $85m

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    Buxton hasn't proven to be a $100M player yet.  The last few months he was there, but hasn't done it for a season or 2 yet.  I think the Twins could get him to sign something in that $75M-$100M range.  That's life changing money for someone who is already a millionaire.  It gives him and his family stability and makes him not have to worry about getting to that next milestone of FA.  

     

    Rip up his deal.  Give him a bump this year to $3M.  Then buy out his Arb Years and 3 years of FA.  I'd suggest:

     

    2018  $3m   - Pre-Arb

    2019  $6m   - Arb 1

    2020  $10m - Arb 2

    2021  $12m - Arb 3

    2022  $17m - FA 1

    2023  $18m - FA 2

    2024  $19m - FA 3

    Total: $85m

     

    You think Buxton would sign for less than half of what Harper and Machado are projected to get next off-season during his FA years?

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    You think Buxton would sign for less than half of what Harper and Machado are projected to get next off-season during his FA years?

    Those guys have years of performing like all-stars under their belts.  Buxton so far has 3 months.  Giving him $85M for 3 months of all-star like performance fair in my opinion.  Or if he is confident in his abilities he will wait a few years and sign for much more.  But $85M is guaranteed the day the pen touches paper.  A much larger deal isn't guaranteed until he can sustain his 3 months of great play for a year or two.  An injury or poor play and both deals disappear.

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    and yet, almost none of hte superstars are signing such deals the last two years....

     

    Agreed, but right now, Buxton isn't a superstar. He may be willing to roll the dice on himself, and that's fine, but that cost certainty has an advantage too.

     

    I'm not going to pretend to know what is and isn't reasonable, but those numbers are probably close.

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    Those guys have years of performing like all-stars under their belts.  Buxton so far has 3 months.  Giving him $85M for 3 months of all-star like performance fair in my opinion.  Or if he is confident in his abilities he will wait a few years and sign for much more.  But $85M is guaranteed the day the pen touches paper.  A much larger deal isn't guaranteed until he can sustain his 3 months of great play for a year or two.  An injury or poor play and both deals disappear.

    No. He just came off a 5 WAR season as his agent knows. The reason the Twins want to extend him is because they know (and his agent knows they know) that Buxton is an elite player. 

     

    Buxton is going to get paid a lot the next few years through arbitration. The numbers you suggest are probably low but even if they were 100% correct, he'll get that money regardless of whether he signs an extension now. The only way he doesn't get that money is if he suffers a career ending injury. If not, he's set. He's already made 6m in a signing bonus and over a million in salary. Plus he has endorsement contracts. Hopefully he's got a smart business guy watching his funds. There should be no reason for him to give up three years of free agency for 54m, as you suggest. Machado and Harper are going to break baseball's salary structure next offseason and Buxton is going to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of that. 

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    IMO, and we are all guessing......

     

    Buxton was 15th in fWAR in the 2nd half of the year. If he did that all year, he'd be in the top 20 among hitters/fielders. I can't see him thinking anything short of "top 5-10 player in all of baseball" money as a FA. Like, $30-40MM per year money. The OP would have him give up at least $38MM in pay those 3 FA years, in exchange for a bit more earlier (is it more?), and more certainty. That's a lot of money to give up, imo.

     

    I think the 116MM number is more correct, but possibly still light if he aggressively values his probabilities and the FA market. I think that number might get it done, though.

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    I was guessing $100 million, but you might be right on the $116 - $120.  Prices are going up for the superstars.

    Pohlad's have spent a lot of money before for a face of the franchise player.  Buxton could will be it.  Go for it.

     

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    Don't think you can lock up the entire core, you still need pitching.  I would role the dice on the middle infielders until you get to Lewis and maybe Javier.  You have a lot in that pipeline and pitching will be expensive.

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    Don't think you can lock up the entire core, you still need pitching.  I would role the dice on the middle infielders until you get to Lewis and maybe Javier.  You have a lot in that pipeline and pitching will be expensive.

     

    If they merit it, they can probably lock everyone up other than Sano and still be in an OK financial position.

     

    I would go with Buxton and Berrios this offseason, and extend Dozier (if it is no more than 3 additional years), then wait another year for Polanco/Kepler/Rosario. I just don't see the Twins and Sano coming together for a variety of reasons.

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    If they merit it, they can probably lock everyone up other than Sano and still be in an OK financial position.

     

    I would go with Buxton and Berrios this offseason, and extend Dozier (if it is no more than 3 additional years), then wait another year for Polanco/Kepler/Rosario. I just don't see the Twins and Sano coming together for a variety of reasons.

    Do not mind Berrios, would kick the tires on Sano.  If you cannot lock up Sano, he would be a piece for trading for an ace down the road.

    Dozier is going to be looking for 4-5 years minimum, just do not want this to happen here. 

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    Do not mind Berrios, would kick the tires on Sano. If you cannot lock up Sano, he would be a piece for trading for an ace down the road.

    Dozier is going to be looking for 4-5 years minimum, just do not want this to happen here.

    If Dozier requires that, Twins can let him walk.

     

    I'd certainly kick the tires on Sano, but I'm skeptical he would bite.

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    Why would Dozier settle for less than 4 years, 80MM-100MM?

     

    Because it is not clear he can get that many more years in the open market. He might want to stay with the Twins. And he might want to lock up a year before free agency.

     

    I don't think the Twins will get a discount on AAV, but might get the right amount of years.

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    Way too early to do this for a guy who doesn't hit free agency until 2022 and who might just kill himself out there long before then.

     

    Use the money to fix the pitching. When that's done, then talk about spending money on things that are superfluous.  

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    If I am Buxton I would not give up three FA years for an extension.  If I wanted to play that game I would give up one year tops.  If giving up one year of FA gave me some financial security I would do it but I would want to reach FA as far under 30 years old as possible. That way you have the leverage of more prime years when going for that big contract.

     

    It is a gamble for both sides but if the Twins want any kind of potential discount or even the hope of getting something done they probably have to do it this year. 

     

    A lot of it depends on how Buxton and his agent view his future.  Is 100 Mil career earnings enough money that you don't care what happens for the next contract? or do you want to maximize your potential earnings through your baseball career taking on the risk of injury, performance, etc?  Hard to say what path he would choose.

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    The more I think about this, I might not do an extension.  If the Twins become good again, I mean perennial playoff team for the next 3-4 years and a WS appearance and deep playoff runs, the amount of money that will be rolling into the team should be ridiculous. Winning solves a lot of problems.   

     

    If those happen the team should have enough funds to pay for what they need.  If they don't make deep playoff runs and get a WS appearance with Buxton, Sano and Berrios core what will they be paying for then?  Great players on an OK team?  If that core doesn't get the team to where we fans want it maybe they don't need to spend $300M on them. 

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