Are The Twins Suddenly Sellers?

"Buying" and "selling" aren't mutually exclusive. Acquiring Garcia doesn't prevent them from dealing Santana/Dozier/Kintzler. They also suddenly find themselves with another Major League arm that we know other teams are interested in—there's nothing stopping them from dealing Garcia. I think it's perfectly reasonable to try and improve the immediate roster and try to acquire assets for the future.

Teams didn't want to outbid the Twins earlier this week for Garcia but may pay more for him within the week. I'm sorry that doesn't make any sense.

Garcia doesn't help in the future since he's a free agent. 

Teams didn't want to outbid the Twins earlier this week for Garcia but may pay more for him within the week. I'm sorry that doesn't make any sense.

Garcia doesn't help in the future since he's a free agent. 

don't go making sense now :-)

LOVE Monkeypaws take but can't seem to like or quote on my phone for some reason.

1] This team needs pitching. Period. So we trade away a good, solid, quality, at times excellent SP in Santana to gain a couple more milb pitching prospects that could help in a year or two? With the talented young core of players growing up before us, this helps how in 2018 exactly? Santana appears to be more than capable of being a quality SP for at least another season, maybe two even. But we don't want him because he's not 23? How about keeping him until a prospect is ready to take his spot?

2] I could argue almost the same for Kintzler as above. Is he lights out? Absolutely not. Used properly has he been reliable and quite good? Absolutely. Could he play up his sudden success with the Twins in to a huge payday? Maybe, but I have serious doubts. I'd sign him to a fair 2-3 year deal and won't feel bad if someone overtakes him and he slides down to a 7-8th inning guy who might even have trade value.

3] Love BD. I don't like him batting leadoff but feel he is a quality ballplayer. I don't know what his trade value could be, but as I've stated before, this is the one guy you can afford to move.

You have Polanco (get off his back people-young, talented, filled with potential and probably struggling with expectations and his grandfathers death), Escobar, Adrianza with Vielma, Gordon and maybe even Goodrum in the wings.

If the value can be found, this is the guy you trade.

And this off season, unless Vargas shines still, or you really believe in him, you sign or trade for a 1B to platoon with Mauer for 2018 and DH before taking over fulltime in 2019. You replace Dozier's bat, and have the INF depth to replace him.

If Garcia does well and likes his 2 months with the Twins, would a re-sign be out of the question? I'd say no.

Old joke:

"You know what burns my ass?"

"No. What?"

"A flame about 3 feet high!"

Kind of how I feel as I realized my big post/rant here is almost the same one I made in a similar post on this subject. Lol

But my opinion remains the same darnit.

This is a pipe dream. But, there may be a real opportunity here.

Pitching: Move Santana, and roll with Berrios, Garcia, Mejia, Colon, Gibson (or Slegers, Gee, Gonsalves). In the 'pen, see what you can get for anyone (Kintzler, Rogers, Duffey, Belisle), and start churning up from AAA.

Position: Try and trade Rosario, Dozier, and/or Mauer, and roll out an infield of Sano, Adrianza, Polanco, and Vargas, with Escobar as utility. Plug Granite in LF, and call up Garver for a bench bat (and emergency LF).

Pick up one of the random starters and a bullpen arm or two heading into '18, and you're right back where you started. But, you're minor league system is better, and there is plenty of cash to extend guys like Sano or Kepler.

Then, turn into the Astros in 2019/2020. Simple as that.

Me wonder whats we could get for Castro?! 

Sell has always been the right answer (even if we sweep Oakland this weekend). This team will NOT progress deep into the playoffs under any circumstances.  I lament that we did not trade Santana 2-4 weeks ago when he was truly at peak value if a good offer was on the table. 

And I am very happy about this season and the progress being made. But the window opens in 2019….Santana will not be part of that.

So we want them to build a consistent winner, BUT they're not allowed to trade veterans who are good or decent. You can't improve a system much by trading only what you don't want.

I'm guessing most people here bought into the "total system failure" when it was stated by Pohlad last year. Do you think a year later everything is fixed by hanging on to what you have, expecting the guys in the minors will all come up and be successful and that a few FA's we plug in will contribute?

I say no. Give the new guys time. And yes, turn over some of roster, even some successful players. I want to see some aggressive moves to build a continuous winner, even if that means a drop in on the MLB team this year, and even next.

Almost everyone complained about TR's recent stint, and yet, it seems like most people want to continue his blueprint, with his roster in tact.

No doubt this will be a bittersweet moment, considering everything that Garcia has done for us

Interesting take, I'm actually blaming him for the LA series.  It's not like he came in and hit a Grand Slam for the Twins (we all know how many chances there were for that to happen).