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  • A Surprising Starter for the Twins to Target In Trade


    Ted Schwerzler

    The Minnesota Twins will need to be buyers during this trade deadline season, and their chief concern comes on the mound. While there’s any number of names they could target, working with a contender may actually be an avenue as well. What if the San Diego Padres are willing to move Blake Snell?

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    San Diego acquired the former Cy Young Award winner from the Tampa Bay Rays in a 4-for-1 swap. Blake Snell has been with the Padres for two seasons now, but is a free agent after the 2023 campaign. While he wasn’t one of the 49 names previously discussed as a trade candidate, it’s becoming more evident that even a winner like San Diego may be open to moving him.

    Dennis Lin covers the Padres for The Athletic and had this to say in his latest mailbag, “If the Padres trade a starting pitcher, they likely would prefer to move Blake Snell. He’s making $5 million more than Mike Clevinger, and unsurprisingly, the team has been frustrated with the left-hander’s lack of performance. It would be selling low on Snell, but the Padres want to clear payroll for other needs.”

    After posting a 1.89 ERA with the Rays during his Cy Young season in 2018, he’s since failed to post an ERA below 3.00. With the Padres, Snell has made 36 starts and owns a 4.32 ERA. His ERA+ in that time sits at only 90. The good news is that Snell has continued to be a dominant strikeout arm, and he’s actually been better at limiting the longball. His 3.75 FIP also suggests that he’s also a bit better than the ERA picture paints.

    San Diego has an embarrassment of riches on the mound right now, and that affords them the luxury of moving someone like Snell. While he’s not in a great place from a production standpoint, he’s still plenty capable of being a top-of-the-rotation arm. Mike Clevinger could be a name teams are interested in as well, but San Diego dumping Snell’s salary would be a benefit to a team dealing with Luxury Tax ramifications.

    Looking at Snell’s advanced analytics and underlying numbers, much of what made him a Cy Young winner still remains. His hard hit rate hasn’t fluctuated, and he’s actually shaved roughly eight percent from his line drive rate. The velocity is as good as it’s ever been and his swing rates are also strong. By virtually all measurements, there’s no reason why Snell can’t contribute to a higher level than he has been.

    Although San Diego would be selling low given the current performance, I’d imagine much of a return for Snell would be reflective of the money a team needs to take on. Under contract for $13.1 million this season, Snell is set to be paid $16.6 million next year. That’s a good amount of salary to take on in the middle of the season, and is also a motivating factor for him to be moved by the Padres. The more San Diego eats, the better their expected return should be. That works on the flip side too, however, in that an acquiring team like the Twins may need to give up considerably less if they take on the entirety of his bill.

    The reality is that high-level starters are going to be highly-coveted on the trade market and there aren’t a ton of options to work with. Luis Castillo remains amazing for the Reds, but teammate Tyler Mahle is now on the injured list. Frankie Montas had a scare for Oakland, and his arm now has plenty of questions around it. Teams could dip down a level to the Pirates Jose Quintana, but the emergence of other options is beneficial.

    The Twins dealt with San Diego prior to Opening Day this season when they acquired Chris Paddack and Emilio Pagan for Taylor Rogers. Maybe the two front offices get together again and can work out another pact for a second starter.

    What do you think? Would you be interested in the Twins adding Blake Snell? What level of a prospect are you comfortable giving up?

     

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    2 hours ago, Canton Clark said:

    Intersting thought... Pretty similar article written here a month ago ..  More of a deep dive on what a deal with the Padres could look like, using essentially the exact same logic and argument for acquiring Snell. 

    I'll claim this this blog as well .. Unfortunately my previous account that went by the name of "Tim" wont login ;(

     

    I also feel like Noah Syndergaard and Kyle Hendricks (more of the former) could really finish off the rotation for a cheaper price than that of Montas or Castillo, the Padres would also be looking for outfield improvements and some depth starters so getting Luis Campusano as a future Catcher isn’t out of the picture.

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    5 hours ago, Sparky55 said:

    Trade Sano for Snell straight up.

    Thats one of the ONLY scenarios that I'd support trading for Snell.  Getting rid of Sano is worth the risk, albeit I'd have to look at the financials.

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    The twins could take Snell with the right deal. Some have said trade Duffy or sano. Duffy would have to improve a little bit over the next 2 to 3  times on the mound. Sano has no chance of being traded to S.d. sano will not have more than 4 games to look good. He is paid 9+ million this year. And 14 million next year. S.D will not take that on. They are worried about cap space. We will have to trade a prospect or two. Not top of the line but down the list somewhere.

     

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    38 minutes ago, Stew said:

    The twins could take Snell with the right deal. Some have said trade Duffy or sano. Duffy would have to improve a little bit over the next 2 to 3  times on the mound. Sano has no chance of being traded to S.d. sano will not have more than 4 games to look good. He is paid 9+ million this year. And 14 million next year. S.D will not take that on. They are worried about cap space. We will have to trade a prospect or two. Not top of the line but down the list somewhere.

     

    Sano has a 2.75M buyout next year. He's not getting that 14M. Snell is making 12.5 this year and 16 next. Both of those numbers are higher than Sano's. SD would save 3.25M this year and 13.25 next year in that deal. Not saying they'd do it, but the money wouldn't be the reason.

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    43 minutes ago, Stew said:

    The twins could take Snell with the right deal. Some have said trade Duffy or sano. Duffy would have to improve a little bit over the next 2 to 3  times on the mound. Sano has no chance of being traded to S.d. sano will not have more than 4 games to look good. He is paid 9+ million this year. And 14 million next year. S.D will not take that on. They are worried about cap space. We will have to trade a prospect or two. Not top of the line but down the list somewhere.

     

    Why would the Twins trade for Danny Duffy just to trade him to SD?

    Also, for all those clamoring to trade Tyler Duffey for Snell, Duffey hasn’t given up a run since June 12.

    I’m in less of a hurry to trade him away

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    3 hours ago, In My La Z boy said:

    Beckham might be of value to a contender needing middle infield help. Cave/Beckham package for a good arm?

    Define "Good Arm"... 

    A couple of 30 year old minor league veterans isn't going to get you much of anything. When the Twins traded JR Murphy, who was in AAA at the time, they got Gabriel Moya, a middling lefty reliever. And that was for a catcher in the same boat. 

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    I am not a fan of Snell at this time. I would prefer Clevinger over Snell because I feel his utility is better suited to the Twins than Snell.  My 1st choice is with Marlins for Lopez, 2nd choice with the Reds for Costillio or “A”s for Montas.

    Reliefers are my primary desire such as (1)Marlins for Bass (2) D- Backs for Multipy (3) Pirates for Bednar (4) Cubs for Givens. 
    If  you sign good proven relief pitchers, then, you may not need any starting pitchers.

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    16 hours ago, Seth Stohs said:

    Define "Good Arm"... 

    A couple of 30 year old minor league veterans isn't going to get you much of anything. When the Twins traded JR Murphy, who was in AAA at the time, they got Gabriel Moya, a middling lefty reliever. And that was for a catcher in the same boat. 

    Someone better than the bottom 1/3 of our current bullpen.

    Both Cave and Beckham can hold their own on a major league diamond. Someone in contention has a middle IF, or OF get injured in late July and needs to plug a hole without giving up too much and has a deep bullpen.
                                                          (if there is such a scenario that presents itself)

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    Snell was good once upon a time.  Now, he has an ERA over 5 and he generally provides short starts.  How does that help us now?  Plus, we get the honor of paying him 16.6M next year.  I would MUCH rather invest that 16M in the BP or a true front of the rotation SP.

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    18 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

    I would much prefer for them to take the $16.6M he would get paid next year and invest another $10M into a SP that would actually make a difference like Musgrove or Rodon.

    Both of those guys are going to get a deal somewhere around 4/90. 10m isn't going to move the needle much for as they'll be getting a long term deal like Robbie Ray's. 

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    Just now, dex8425 said:

    Both of those guys are going to get a deal somewhere around 4/90. 10m isn't going to move the needle much for as they'll be getting a long term deal like Robbie Ray's. 

    I think we have a misunderstanding.  I am saying instead of investing 16.6m in Snell, we would be far better of investing that 16.6m plus another 10M.  In other words, 26.6M annually.  The thinking being Snell is not much of an upgrade and won't move the needle.  Getting a true front of the rotation guy would change this team.   

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    29 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

    I think we have a misunderstanding.  I am saying instead of investing 16.6m in Snell, we would be far better of investing that 16.6m plus another 10M.  In other words, 26.6M annually.  The thinking being Snell is not much of an upgrade and won't move the needle.  Getting a true front of the rotation guy would change this team.   

    Who would you have in mind for that price, keeping in mind that Syndergaard got $21M on a prove it deal this last season and he is more of a middle of the order starter now while he tries to reestablish himself?

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    2 hours ago, MN_ExPat said:

    Who would you have in mind for that price, keeping in mind that Syndergaard got $21M on a prove it deal this last season and he is more of a middle of the order starter now while he tries to reestablish himself?

    Musgrove or Rodon.  IDK ... maybe it takes closer to $30M but 26-28 is what I was thinking it would take,  Of course, the number of years will influence the AAV up or down a bit.  Taillon was looking like a good target as well but he has not looked so good lately.

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    Snell went 3.2 innings last night in Denver. He walked 6, struck out 5 and gave up 5 runs. So his last outing doesn’t look good altogether Colorado is a tough place to pitch.  

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