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They are going to unmuddy the waters, and I expect to see a lot of this. During open auditions very few played their way into the future, but a great many played themselves out of it, if they ever even had a future. I'm curious about ST. One year some time ago, they had relatively few starting pitchers in camp. I'm wondering if the pecking order is close enough where this may be the case. I believe this was one of those unfortunate years that was necessary in the rebuilding process.

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I think the fact the word "surprise" even comes to mind regarding the release of a negative WAR, 31 year old relief pitcher with no upside, on a 96 loss team, speaks volumes to the way this organization is typically run.

The fact that he was let go this soon at least gives me a little bit of hope that they ARE in fact committed to doing things different than the way they have done in the past.

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I think the fact the word "surprise" even comes to mind regarding the release of a negative WAR, 31 year old relief pitcher with no upside, on a 96 loss team, speaks volumes to the way this organization is typically run.

The fact that he was let go this soon at least gives me a little bit of hope that they ARE in fact committed to doing things different than the way they have done in the past.

 

I wouldn't take too much hope. I assume they extended a courtesy to a veteran so he had the max time to latch on with another team. Believe he has a father or brother in the business also.

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I was about 50/50 on whether Roenicke would be taken off the 40 man roster and 50/50 on whether or not he would be claimed. There are obviously more moves coming and many of those moves are more obvious. I'm always curious about the strategy of when certain players are DFAd as opposed to others.

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Not to speak ill of anyone, but the fact that Thomas got 290 ABs says it all about the 2013 edition of the Minnesota Twins.

 

On a different topic, during Saturday's game it was either Bert of Dan who said that there are going to be a lot of players who are going to sorely regret their failure to take advantage of the opportunity that was dropped in their lap this year -- I can think of Hicks, Parmalee, Colabello, Escobar, Walters, Worley, Thomas, Hendricks, Hernandez....

 

In all my 50 years or so of being a Twins fan this was about as dismal a season as I can remember.

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On a different topic, during Saturday's game it was either Bert of Dan who said that there are going to be a lot of players who are going to sorely regret their failure to take advantage of the opportunity that was dropped in their lap this year -- I can think of Hicks, Parmalee, Colabello, Escobar, Walters, Worley, Thomas, Hendricks, Hernandez....

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Hard to throw all of those in the same bucket here. Some of these guys were out of shape and hurt (Worley) others are young and have an upside (Escobar, Hendriks, Hicks), a few are at or past their primes (Colabello, Walters, Thomas) and the jury is still out on Parmelee and Hernandez (even though I do not think much of Hernandez, but he will be better to keep in AAA than a 34 year old MiLB FA...)

 

 

Surprised by the DeVries outright, I think that he potentially had a future at least in the pen...

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So outrighted means these guys passed through waivers and have been assigned to Rochester. We haven't lost any of them, but Roenicke is arbitration eligible, so he has the option to file for free agency. I'm assuming that if nobody wanted him on waivers, there won't be much interest in signing him to anything but a minor league deal anyway. Relief pitchers like him can easily be found. If nothing else, it opens a spot for Tonkin for next year.

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I'm happy with the Roenicke move. I really didn't think he was that bad this season, but I would much rather give his playing time to Tonkin (or several other relievers who showed a lot in the minors) this next season. Good luck to him elsewhere, though. He seemed like a good guy (which is why I'm also surprised and hopefully with his outrighting).

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Roenicke could still stay - it's his option. I'm sure the Twins could find room for him at Rochester next season and then it's possible he could be given a ST non-roster invite.

 

I understand he can still return. I assumed (probably prematurely) that he would elect free agency and see if he can get a major league deal or a minor league deal with a more developed team given his age.

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All of these guys have amassed enough professional service time to elect to become minor-league free agents. Roenicke can refuse his assignment because he has 3+ years of experience.

 

My guess is that the Twins moved these guys first - while most teams rosters are still full - hoping they would make it through waivers and they'll cut minor-league deals with all of them.

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Not to speak ill of anyone, but the fact that Thomas got 290 ABs says it all about the 2013 edition of the Minnesota Twins.

 

On a different topic, during Saturday's game it was either Bert of Dan who said that there are going to be a lot of players who are going to sorely regret their failure to take advantage of the opportunity that was dropped in their lap this year -- I can think of Hicks, Parmalee, Colabello, Escobar, Walters, Worley, Thomas, Hendricks, Hernandez....

 

In all my 50 years or so of being a Twins fan this was about as dismal a season as I can remember.

 

Agree. Most dismal in memory of 32 years...

 

Clete Thomas...absolutely, I was baffled he was even in the majors. I'd a rather had anyone at Rochester, Antoan Richardson et al.

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Never was a fan of Clete. He was the center fielder until Presley was acquired (with Hicks demoted to AAA), so I guess I understand why he got as many ABs as he did. De Vries will probably get a chance with someone (his season ruined by injury). Roenicke was pretty good in the middle of the season, but "leaked oil" badly from some time in August until the end of the season. I fully expect more guys to be taken off the 40-man.

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I woukd expect Hernandez Fryer Benier and Mastro to be next. And wilkin ramierez when he comes of the DL. And I would not be surprised if Duensing was non tendered and then resigned or signed by somebody else.

Who's the opening day center fielder in that scenario?

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Who's the opening day center fielder in that scenario?
I'm sure it would be Presley. I think Mastro gets a chance to be a fourth OF this spring, and if he's healthy, he will get the job. When Hicks returns from exile in Rochester, Presley or Mastro is sent out.
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I'm sure it would be Presley. I think Mastro gets a chance to be a fourth OF this spring, and if he's healthy, he will get the job. When Hicks returns from exile in Rochester, Presley or Mastro is sent out.

 

Not a need to waive Mastro yet.

 

If Mastro can recover from injury and work enough rust off to hit big league pitching, he becomes an ideal 4th OF for the Twins as he's a RHB and can cross platoon with Pressley and Arcia. Errr....nevermind.

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I'm sure it would be Presley. I think Mastro gets a chance to be a fourth OF this spring, and if he's healthy, he will get the job. When Hicks returns from exile in Rochester, Presley or Mastro is sent out.

Foreign computer with Chrome browser = incomplete post. My guess was Elvis, and my next question was who's the backup, and my last was please, please, please, can it not be Hicks until he's ready.

 

None of that posted, but hey, looks like we are in agreement about Mastro at least warranting a shot at the 4th OF spot in a placeholder/insurance plan role.

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All of these guys have amassed enough professional service time to elect to become minor-league free agents. Roenicke can refuse his assignment because he has 3+ years of experience.

 

My guess is that the Twins moved these guys first - while most teams rosters are still full - hoping they would make it through waivers and they'll cut minor-league deals with all of them.

 

Did Shairon Martis show anything in September that shouted out for the Twins to do whatever it takes to somehow sneak him through to 2014? Just goes to show, all that sweating and gnashing of teeth over the prospect of axing, at any given moment, at least 1/3 (if not more even, Howard Sinker is of the opinion tht the Twins immediately look into the prospect of parting ways with 2 dozen guys!) of this 40-man roster is a complete waste of time.

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Foreign computer with Chrome browser = incomplete post. My guess was Elvis, and my next question was who's the backup, and my last was please, please, please, can it not be Hicks until he's ready.

 

None of that posted, but hey, looks like we are in agreement about Mastro at least warranting a shot at the 4th OF spot in a placeholder/insurance plan role.

 

Kudos to you rare few who can successfully distinguish Alex Presley from Elvis, and Ryan Pressly for that matter, and never miss once into descending into the multiple misspelling options- despite using Google Chrome!

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In AAA.

 

Is that the baseball version of "In bed"?

 

Good news will come to you from far away... in AAA.

Your eyes will be opened to a world full of beauty... in AAA.

Your present plans are going to succeed... in AAA.

You are going to have some new clothes... in AAA.

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