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  1. The Twins certainly have a history when it comes to their most hyped prospects getting to the majors and immediately or shortly thereafter suffering career-altering injuries. To make matters worse, these prospects usually show they can handle the hardest part of breaking through to the majors: holding their own, or even thriving against big league pitching/hitting. A few examples: Jason Kubel (Knee) Joe Mauer (Knee) Francisco Liriano (Elbow) Byron Buxton (Three Stooges Syndrome) Royce Lewis (Knee X2) Trevor Larnach (Core) And to a lesser extent: Bailey Ober (Groin) Christian Guzmán (Shoulder) Another player to add may be Alex Kirilloff. Drafted by the Twins 15th overall in 2016, he hit right away in the short-season leagues until he tore a ligament in his elbow and missed all of 2017 while recovering from Tommy John surgery. He reestablished himself in 2018, hitting .348 in two levels of Single-A. Prior to 2019, he was ranked by Baseball Prospectus as the 39th best overall prospect while being praised for “preternatural raw hitting talent.” He dealt with more minor injuries the following few years, but still ranked as high the ninth overall prospect at MLB.com and fifteenth at Baseball America. Opinions of scouts obviously differed, but no one doubted his hitting ability. The question was how much power he would show and at what position. However, since debuting in the 2020 postseason, just about nothing has gone according to plan. Kirilloff tore a ligament in his wrist in 2021 after starting out hot at the plate, tried to play through it and lost his ability to drive the ball. He underwent season-ending surgery, came back in 2022, and experienced the same soreness. He took some time off, went to Triple-A and raked for a month, his power seemingly back. He arrived back with the big club in June and continued to hit with a slash line of .306/.346/.469 in the 29 games following his promotion. He looked good at first and playable in the outfield. Had the Twins found their number five hitter for the next several years? Not quite. A recurrence of the same wrist issue again ended his season, this time resulting in a much more invasive ulna shaving surgery. Now, his .694 career OPS is below average and often quoted by national outlets as reasons why he is a disappointment, but that’s pretty lazy analysis. After starting his career 0-for-14 in 2021, Kirilloff went on a seven-game tear, hitting for a 1.190 OPS before he sustained the original wrist injury. A lot of players have hot seven game stretches, and never become anything, but the 29-game stretch in 2022 cemented for me what he is with two wrists. Watch a single game of a healthy Kirilloff while factoring in his prospect pedigree, and its hard to come away thinking he is anything but a pure, line-to-line hitter with tremendous plate coverage. That said, he is aggressive, and I doubt we’ll ever see him walk in ten percent of his plate appearances, healthy or not. He’s also not quick in the outfield, so his bat will need to carry him. But take a look at this swing, his second opposite field homer of that day, and tell me it won’t. In my player comps series, I compared his upside to a less patient Will Clark, but a more realistic comp may be Rondell White, a notoriously aggressive hitter who hit for high averages and decent power during his heyday with the Expos. The caveat, of course, is we don’t know how Kirilloff’s wrist will respond to the bone -breaking surgery and plate implant completed only six months ago. One source of optimism is the one major leaguer who underwent the same procedure over forty years ago: Kirk Gibson. After starring in baseball and football at Michigan State, Gibson was touted as one of the game’s premier power-speed prospects in the late 1970s but almost had his career ended before it began after he took a swing during his rookie season on June 16, 1980. He felt a pop in his wrist and immediately left the game. What happened next is documented in the book Detroit Tigers 1984: What a Start! What a Finish! “Gibson woke up the next day in severe pain. The team doctors could not find a problem, so the wrist was put in a cast to rest it. The injury resulted in a truncated season in which Gibson hit .263 with nine home runs. In August, he visited the Mayo Clinic, where doctors found the problem: an abnormal development in his arm bones. They shortened his ulna bone and inserted a steel plate. Gibson was told that he would need eight months of rehabilitation. There were no guarantees that the wrist would hold up or that Gibson would ever play baseball again. The irony was that the wrist injury would not have affected his playing football.” Gibson did reinjure the wrist in 1981 and sat out a month, but returned and hit .328 the rest of the year. The surgery was clearly a success, as Gibson hit .275/.358/.477 the rest of the decade, winning an MVP in 1984 and hitting perhaps the most famous home run in baseball history. By all accounts, Kirilloff is doing well in his rehab, experiencing minor soreness but not the pain he felt in 2021 or 2022. Expecting him to turn into Kirk Gibson is probably foolish (or at least unfair), but at least there is precedent for a top prospect to rebound from such an extreme procedure and have a long, productive career,
    14 points
  2. Didn’t know that about Gibson. Great post - enjoyed the recap on Kiriloff. Here’s hoping this surgery works for Alex’s sake; it must be incredibly sad and frustrating for him not see his potential being hit despite all the hard work. We’re pulling for you Alex!
    12 points
  3. Maybe @Seth Stohs could still write his article for those of us who don’t get the STrib.
    8 points
  4. Gibson had a 5-year run where he produced an average of 4.76 WAR. Rosario's best 4 years he produced an average of 2.6 WAR. I would not call that "marginally" better. Rosario was extremely good from the last half or 2017 through the first half of 2018. He was marginally less productive than Gibson during those two half-seasons but not even close outside that short window when Rosario shined. Hopefully, Kirilloff's production is closer to Gibson than Rosario.
    6 points
  5. I truly have about 2 pages of an article on the Twins and their evolving relationship with Scott Boras... I've been sitting on it for a couple of weeks, wanting to find time to finish it. Uggh! Well, in Sunday's Star-Tribune, columnist LaVelle E Neal has a long-form article on the Twins and their relationship with Scott Boras. https://www.startribune.com/twins-scott-boras-carlos-correa-baseball-agent-clients-derek-falvey-terry-ryan-la-velle-e-neal-iii/600250921/ The concept I was going for was that they used to talk about avoiding Boras clients, except in certain situations (like Kenny Rogers being available late in the offseason, or Kendrys Morales still being available after the draft). It is interesting to see that the current roster includes many Boras clients including Carlos Correa, Royce Lewis, Austin Martin, Joey Gallo, Ryan Jeffers, Alex Kirilloff, and Chris Paddack. It was Paddack signing a team-friendly-due-to-injury deal that made me think through a potential article... Neal also notes that Nick Gordon, Kenta Maeda and newcomer Jose De Leon are all Boras clients too. Anyway, interesting article from LaVelle for you to read through and discuss... Lesson Learned... finish the article, get it posted!
    5 points
  6. This sums it up for me. I truly don't get the angst I see everywhere about the man. The athletes hire him, not the other way around, and he's not some Svengali who lures players to do things against their own interests. For those who worship at the altar of free markets, he should be their high priest.
    5 points
  7. I am disappointed that the contract keeps coming up. Reality is that Joe Mauer’s career was cut short by a career altering concussion. Of which he was still having symptoms the year he retired. Would there be the same level of discussion about the contract if his career would have been altered by a back injury suffered in, e.g., a home plate collision. Twins and their fans were robbed of truly great careers from Mauer, Justin Morneau, and to a lesser extent Corey Koskie—all because of career altering concussions. But because Mauer was in a different stage of his contract we somehow feel differently about his injury.
    5 points
  8. Yeah it’s nuts that people not only under-appreciate Mauer, but almost openly detest him. He’s one of the best and most complete catchers the game has ever seen. Period. At his peak of winning batting titles, hitting doubles like a machine, and playing gold glove caliber defense - name more than one or two in history that was better at the position. The longevity wasn’t necessarily there at the position that some like Bench and Rodriguez have. But, it’s not the hall of longevity. That criteria is sometimes weighted too heavily, IMO. Especially at the catcher position. The contract talk is just absurd. He gets knocked because he was paid for was they thought he would do and he didn’t do it? What? He also got paid peanuts while being the best catcher in the game for 5-6 years. That somehow gets twisted into him fleecing the Twins in some way and being a detriment? Get the hell out of here (figuratively). That’s just ridiculous. Not only that, but he’s a hometown kid. He played out his career here. He lives and invests in the community. And he was a key cog in the longest consecutive run of success this dumpster fire of an organization has ever seen. If they select Mark Prior instead of Mauer, things look much worse for this franchise over the last 22 years. Also, a total class act. People worship at the idols of guys like Puckett who are complete scumbags. There’s something to be said about performing off the field as well. His one knock IMO is not winning enough in the postseason. But, who knows what happens there if Phil Cuzzy didn’t openly rig a playoff game for the Yankees and call a double fair by 30 feet a foul ball.
    5 points
  9. It has been posted before that Gibson had basically the same surgery. Knowing it was 40 years ago and turned out to be reasonably successful is a good sign for Kirilloff and the Twins. I would speculate that 40 years later the surgery has been fine-tuned as well which should make it being a success even more of a probability. A healthy Kirilloff at 1B may be the key to a winning season and the Twins taking the next step towards the ultimate goal of a Championship if not in 2023 but within the next few years.
    5 points
  10. Didn't know that Gibson had essentially the same procedure! It's sorta nice to know that this isn't unprecedented in MLB. I really hope this fixes the issue for Kirilloff. I'm convinced of his talent and see him as a guy who will hit lasers all over the ballpark. I think his walk rate probably goes up a little; there's no question that he knows the strike zone, and I expect he'll work the count a little more to get the pitch he wants...and lay off the stuff that MLB pitchers will try and get him to chase. But he will be aggressive and go for hits. 15-20 HRs is more than reasonable, and I think he's the kind of player who can hit 40 doubles if he's healthy for a full season. Sure could be fun if he's finally found the solution to that balky wrist. He's such a talented hitter.
    5 points
  11. That HR by Gibson was such a thing of beauty! It was a scene straight out of a movie
    5 points
  12. Change your passwords, Seth. LEN3 clearly has installed some kind of spyware on your computer!
    5 points
  13. Offense is needed on all MLB clubs. We’re gonna role with a switch hitting, powerful former starting SS at 2B. At SS one of the year’s most coveted Free Agents. At 1B a potential offensive All-Star. As our Utility back-up and star against LH pitching, another former starting SS in the SHOW. At 3B a probable .270 - 22HR - 80 RBI guy. SOLID catcher with a .274 career BA. Going to have to live with the defensive infield that can provide RUNS!!! Not many perfect clubs out there……..
    4 points
  14. Mauer is also hurt badly here because of the some of the local media in MN. People like Dan Barreiro openly detested him (in part because Mauer had no interest in being on his show, I'm sure) and bagged on him frequently. When you have prominent media guys bashing on the star all the time (favorite complaints were about the contract, his RBI totals, and dumbest of all: him taking "too many walks") it hurts the rep with the fans, especially when they're frustrated about the team not having success in the playoffs, losing players like Johan (and not getting the pieces needed to really reload), and the injuries. But Mauer was awesome, and I have nothing but contempt for the haters. He was a terrific catcher and hit like few others. He should have won the Gold Glove at 1B in 2017, he deserved every one of his all-star appearances, deserved the MVP (another reason Mauer catches flak; bitter NYY fans who think the Sainted Jeter got robbed), and was simply an amazing player. 3 batting titles as a catcher? Look at what passes for hitting at catcher these days, does anyone think we'll see that again? Mauer's a no-doubt HoFer to me. Molina gets extra credit for the postseason, but you can't hold that against Mauer. It's not Mauer's fault that Cuzzi completely blew a call or that he played on teams with terrible rotations, or that Liriano's elbow exploded, or that management made staggeringly bad evaluations of guys like Nishioka or Park. I'd take Mauer as my catcher over Molina, who was an all-star caliber player for really only a few years and a good to very good player for most of his prime. Molina had 2 season with more than 5 bWAR. Mauer had 5, even with the injuries.
    4 points
  15. Not all fans approved of the Twins trading Luis Arraez for Pablo Lopez. Arraez was a fan favorite, and there are multiple reasons the club was willing to part with the reigning AL Batting Champion. He has yet to have a true defensive home and doesn't fit the profile of a slugging first baseman. Minnesota has other options at first base in 2023, which might be the most pivotal position on the roster. Presumed Starter Alex Kirilloff returns from a unique off-season surgery where doctors shortened his ulna bone. He has dealt with wrist issues over the last two seasons, and this surgery was the best way to solve these problems. This surgery has shown success with the general population, but there have been few professional athletes to undergo this procedure. There is no guarantee Kirilloff will return to his previous form, but all reports from the Twins have him on track to complete a regular spring training. Projection systems defer in what to expect from Kirilloff in 2023. During his big-league career, Kirilloff hasn't been healthy, which impacts how projections view his potential contributions. ZiPS has Kirilloff hitting .250/.310/.401 (.711) while accumulating 0.9 WAR in 82 games (332 PA). Baseball-Reference projects him to post a .708 OPS in 301 PA. The Twins are hoping to get more than half a season from Kirilloff, so their internal projections are likely higher for his output during the upcoming season. Other First Base Options Minnesota can use Joey Gallo at first base, but he provides much of his value with Gold Glove-caliber outfield defense. He can likely be a strong defender at first, but the Twins' best defensive alignment has him in a corner outfield spot. Gallo has played over 745 innings at first base in his career, but most of those innings came in 2017 or earlier. His offensive profile fits at first base, so he is a fallback option if Kirilloff misses time in 2023. Jose Miranda got time at first last season, but the Twins want him to be the club's everyday third baseman. He has never been considered a strong defender at third, so first base might be his eventual long-term position. Rocco Baldelli can undoubtedly use a line-up that includes Kyle Farmer at third base with Miranda sliding over to the other corner infield spot. Farmer and Christian Vazquez have played over 100 innings at first base so that they can be emergency options. Offensive Potential Fans may forget that Kirilloff was considered one of baseball's top prospects throughout his professional career. All three major national rankings had him among their top 100 prospects for three consecutive seasons (2019-21), with Baseball America and MLB.com ranking him in the top 15 entering the 2019 season. He was the 2018 TD Minor League Hitter of the Year after he hit .348/.392/.578 (.970) with 44 doubles, seven triples, and 20 home runs in 130 games. Kirilloff can still be that type of hitter if his latest wrist surgery proves successful. Minnesota saw flashes of the offensive wunderkind when they sent Kirilloff to St. Paul during the 2022 season. He was struggling to fight through his wrist injury with the Twins, and the club wanted him to rediscover his swing in an environment more suitable for working on mechanical adjustments. He dominated in 35 games by hitting .359/.465/.641 (1.106) with seven doubles and ten home runs. His hot hitting didn't follow him back to the Twins, and he was eventually shut down because of his wrist. The Twins' best line-up against a right-handed starter has Alex Kirilloff at first base with an outfield of Joey Gallo (LF), Byron Buxton (CF), and Max Kepler (RF). If Kirilloff isn't deemed ready, the Twins can move Gallo to first and have one of the other young outfielders (Trevor Larnach or Matt Wallner) take his place in a corner outfield spot. Minnesota focused on improving the club's outfield defense this winter, so they may avoid using players that struggle more on the defensive side. If Kirilloff is healthy, Minnesota's line-up is strong at nearly every position, with depth waiting in the wings. The Twins will need to be ready to pivot to other first-base options like Gallo or Miranda if Kirilloff has any setbacks. How important is first base to the Twins line-up this season? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.
    4 points
  16. Stop it ... this is about how he pitches. If he's good who cares about his last name. Find another forum to complain about this non-issue.
    3 points
  17. Dear God. You do realize how hard it is to catch and do anything else? The last catcher before Mauer to win an AL batting title was 1933, largely because catchers get beat up badly and there's also the DH position to content with for top hitter. He won three. You think that's some sort of coincidence? When healthy he was an MVP or close to it, finishing in the top ten in MVP voting four times as a catcher. What the guy was getting paid should not affect your judgement of how well he performed. But he earned his money in the first three years, so you're complaining about the five years when he was fighting concussions. Would you have felt better about his back going to pieces and him sitting on the bench? The fact that he was an above average 1B at the MLB level while he was dealing with this mostly tells me you don't know anyone who has suffered a serious concussion. But here's the deal, he caught most of ten years, 921 games, as one of the top in the game with a solid peak and some fancy awards. If you don't think that's worthy of the hall then you're probably unhappy with most of the catchers that are in there now and will never be happy with any catcher ever entering again. Then again I'm sure you'll never be impressed any any pitcher ever making it either, since the game has changed in many ways. Sorry for your loss.
    3 points
  18. There's no mention of Farmer's defensive #s, if Miranda doesn't improve enough at 3B, Farmer will take over there. Polanco played out of position at SS and his ankles suffered it for it. '21 was his 1st year away from SS & stress on his ankles. '22 Polanco played hurt for most of the season. 1st his back, he was rested & recovered later his knee, they played him hurt until he could no longer take the field. It was obvious that Polanco was playing well below 100%. '23 if not allowed to play hurt, IMO will continue to progress at his short time of doing so at 2B. Season Team Level Pos Inn rSZ rCERA rSB rGDP rARM rGFP rPM DRS ARM DPR RngR ErrR UZR UZR/150 FRM OAA RAA 2016 MIN MLB 2B 43.0 0 0 -1 -1 0.1 0.3 -0.5 -0.1 -4.7 0 0 2021 MIN MLB 2B 971.1 1 -1 3 3 0.2 0.4 -4.0 -3.4 -10.5 -1 -1 IMO Correa was bored with the Twins massive shift. The shift ban we'll see a different Correa (for the better). With addition of Lewis our INF depth vastly improve. So I have a better perspective of our INF.
    3 points
  19. It's always felt wrong that one agent would have so much impact on the sport.
    3 points
  20. I like where you are going Seth. The Twins’ position in the market changed. Not a Strib subscriber…. The FO changed, who have a different perspective and prerogative than the Ryan regime. Does the Free Agent market itself have an influence to some of the work with Boras’ clients too? The disparity between the top end payrolls and the bottom has never been greater, also with the players. Does that facilitate different contract structures? I don’t know how to search it, but Buxton and Correa have historically odd contracts. Is Boras (or certain agents) more open minded on the cash-grab?
    3 points
  21. I just opened it up again... I noticed I hadn't worked on it since January 15th. Oops! Here is how far I was. Ignore the need for editing. It's all part of my process. asdfasdfa (This was for the title which I hadn't thought up yet). Terry Ryan wasn’t afraid of agent Scott Boras, but the reality was that the Twins often shied away from Boras clients. Obviously in the Metrodome days, it was mostly due to simple economics. The Dome is a stadium that we all have many memories of, both good and bad, I’m sure. The Twins were truly a small-market team. In 2010, the team moved into Target Field and soon had a new TV deal with Bally Sports North (or was it FSN then?). Since that time, the Twins have rightfully referred to themselves as a mid-market team. Generally speaking, the Twins rank around 22nd of the 30 teams in revenues (estimated, of course, because team’s books aren’t open to the public). In recent years, their payroll has ranked in the 16th to 20th range. I’m comfortable with that as a fan. But the Twins will not (and from a business-side should not) try to match payrolls with the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers and others over $220 million. And that is often the range where the many of Scott Boras’s clients find themselves. And maybe it took special circumstances, but the past two offseasons, the Twins signed one of the top free agents on the market, Carlos Correa. A year ago, Correa switched his representation. His previous agency was about to lose its certification from MLB, so Correa joined the Boras Corporation. With the lockout a year ago, and the quick turnaround to spring training, teams just weren’t going to commit to the $300 million that they may have needed to. So, Boras got creative and reached out to the Twins. The two sides surprised the baseball world when they agreed to a three-year, $105 million contract. The deal came with an opt-out clause. We knew he would take the opt-out and he did. You all know the story at this point. Turner and Bogaerts get more than expected, pushing Correa’s value up. Giants offer 13-years, $350 million, but then opt out due to the physical. 12 hours later, the Mets agreed to a 12-year, $315 million deal. Three weeks later, concerns about the physical, and the Twins swoop in. And, as you know, last week they signed him to a six-year, $200 million deal with options that could push it to 10 years and $270 million. That brings us to today, but we also have to realize that beyond dollars and sense, the Twins ability to develop a positive relationship with Scott Boras has played a huge role in this as well. That isn’t to say that the Twins had a bad relationship with Boras in the past. There just were very few free agent opportunities.The Ryan/Smith regimes drafted Boras clients including Jeff Manship, Matthew Fox and Ryan Eades. They also were able to sign veteran lefty Kenny Rogers late in the 2003 offseason. They signed Kendrys Morales after the draft one year to avoid losing a draft pick. They also signed Mike Pelfrey to a couple of contracts earlier this decade. There was always a lot of respect between Terry Ryan and Scott Boras, but few deals, and only certain types of deals (meaning, not too expensive). “Minnesota is the Land of 10,000 Lakes and right now they're fishing in the ocean," said Boras.
    3 points
  22. There is nothing I want more than to see Kirilloff take off. He's been through so much with his wrist. He's so potent at the plate when healthy. A lingering wrist issue is NOT comfortable when you swing bats for a living. I pray this surgery did the trick. Someone posted we wouldn't have traded Arraez if we'd know Kirilloff wouldn't be ready. I would LOVE for this to be true. I'd love to see Alex just demolish baseballs as he did in the minors. However, even Alex, himself, has said recently that he's still experiencing discomfort in the wrist. I pray that it's part of the recovery process. I've followed this kid since draft day and have been waiting for him to let the world know what he's capable off. Now, say he's not able... For all those talking Gallo to 1B? Really?!?! He hits dingers, walks, and plays Gold Glove defense in the outfield. Really going to take a GG outfielder and stick him at first? 3/4 his paycheck is for his defense. Miranda is best suited by far. Kepler even. With Farmer and Gordon as utility and bench (no specific order), we shouldn't have to see Gallo at 1B at all. All this is mute as long as Kirilloff gets back to form. Please do Alex. Please.
    3 points
  23. I don’t get why Nick has to “earn” his starts but Gallo and Kepler don’t. Play the best players.
    3 points
  24. Why assume Gordon won’t be the everyday left fielder? Gallo and Kepler need to earn their spot in the lineup just like Gordon and Larnach
    3 points
  25. It's not 2019 or 2020 or 2021 anymore. And 29 other teams have seen it the same way up to this point, concerning Miguel Sanó.
    3 points
  26. Indeed both will be very valuable. But with a logjam of corner OFers, Farmer should be limited to the INF where we are hurting at the moment. And Gordon should be limited in the OF.
    3 points
  27. Both of these guys will be extremely valuable.
    3 points
  28. Really interesting take - Polanco at 1B if Kiriloff is a no go. At the moment, even if Kiriloff can make it back, Miranda should get lots of frames at 1B. If Miranda ends up being a more dependable, higher producing player than Kiriloff this season, then next year when Lee, Lewis and Julien show up, Miranda would be the everyday 1B and Kiriloff (with Kepler and Gallo gone) would be a corner OF (with some combo of Larnach, Gordon, Wallner and Martin), backup 1B, and DH. I literally cannot believe we are going to be starting an OF of Gallo, Kepler and Taylor (when Buxton is inevitably out). Yes, the defense is there in spades, but what a snooze fest at the plate. And all essentially one year rentals. Back to Polanco. I actually think his year at the plate is going to be the key to the Twin’s offense this season. How Polanco goes is how this team will go..
    3 points
  29. No doubt, the Twins are counting on Alex Kirilloff to step into a starting role at first base and hit. I don't think Arraez is traded if AK was not going to be ready this season. Like many, I am looking for a big season from Kirilloff. He is a key answer for both first base and the middle of the lineup.
    3 points
  30. 3 points
  31. This isn't a real post, right? You want him not to use his actual last name, why?
    3 points
  32. There are a lot of reasons to discount the defensive numbers a bit from last year, mostly the biblical injury plague, and there are more reasons to wonder how different 2023 will be that make projecting those numbers even harder. The shift is reduced, base stealing may return, health may return and everyone is a year older for good (Miranda) or ill (Polanco, Correa.) I expect our infield defense will be average. Correa will be quite good again, Miranda will be OK, not horrible, Polanco will be around average and Kirilloff will be pretty good. I think they'll hit enough to make it work and it should be a good year.
    2 points
  33. Frankly I think Gordon and Buxton have earned starting spots and the rest of the guys should compete for the 3rd OF spot in Spring Training.
    2 points
  34. Interesting numbers indeed. Anyone know if those stats are tracked at the milb level? Positive regression would be a welcome scenario after all the health related issues since 2019.
    2 points
  35. Gordon's development last season was one of the few bright spots. I hope this season brings better base running and less outs on the basepaths.
    2 points
  36. I scoured the internet for this, but Gibson and some college tennis players were all I could find. The surgery has a high success rate among the general population, but then again we don't have to torque our wrists against 100 MPH fastballs.
    2 points
  37. Just when I thought I was out of hope. Nice article. If I could humbly ask the baseball gods for a favor, it would be to give Buxton, Lewis and Kirilloff a chance to play the season with absolutely minimal pain and maximum mobility. It may be asking a lot, but I would love to see this young man in particular flourish at the big league level.
    2 points
  38. I don't think overrated is the right word for that team. There's no question that that team could rake, and I think they fully deserved the 101 wins they recorded that year. I think "unbalanced" is a better word. The 2019 team had a bunch of really, really good hitters that got to benefit from the juiced ball and an organizational shift toward hard contact for XBH over slap singles and using speed; on the pitching side, though, it was still basically Berrios, Odorizzi, and pray for rain.
    2 points
  39. Nonconcur. Non. Concur. Nonconcurnonconcurnonconcurnomconcur. Strongly. Sheesh.
    2 points
  40. Couldn’t agree more. Gordon is currently our second best overall (hitting, fielding and running) outfielder behind Buxton.
    2 points
  41. I need to see Gordon perform over time before I label him a starter, even though I'm a fan and have been supporter of his. But I like him in the OF and believe he will get better. He's OK at 2B and passable at SS. He's barely played 3B but I want to see him there in ST to see if he can play there once in a while. And his speed on the bases is outstanding. He just needs to be a little refined there. Farmer is a passable, decent starting SS, but an excellent reserve option. He can, and has, played across the entire infield and brings a pretty decent bat. He's even an emergency catcher! I don't know that I'm crazy about seeing him in LF, but I'd give it a try in ST. I think these two bring a lot to the table in regard to their versatility and solid offense But I like the whole bench. Taylor is an outstanding defensive OF who can hit a little, provide occasional pop, and still runs well even if he's not a big base stealer. Larnch as a backup OF and DH who plays almost every day with solid defense and a great arm? Yes please! (Still believe he's a full time starter sooner than later). Whether you like Jeffers and believe in his potential at a still young age, and only a little over 600 PA, or not, you have to love someone like him as the 2nd catcher, especially considering untapped potential. The Twins have, I believe, a very, very nice bench.
    2 points
  42. I think both of these guys are great bench players. I wouldn't be opposed to Gordon starting, but he's got to earn that. And I think they can probably do better, but if he earned it I can't argue with that.
    2 points
  43. Those are two decent bench, depth pieces. Almost the type of bench players on a winning playoff team.
    2 points
  44. Agree on Gordon. I think we should expect to see Farmer in the outfield some against lefties. I agree he’s best suited to play the infield though.
    2 points
  45. Don't sleep on Julien playing some 1B this year.
    2 points
  46. I agree that Kiriloff is a key to the Twins 2023 offense. A healthy version is probably a powerful middle of the order bat, as well as an above average defensive presence. A continuation of the wrist issues probably effectively ends his career. If he is healthy, then the Gallo/Miranda backup idea is good. An occasional fill-in at 1B is probably a good thing for both in terms of future roles and versatility. However, in the case of a major problem for AK, I would prefer some other option as a full time solution. My suggestion for that scenario is a player already on the roster, Jorge Polanco. Although this might seem like a return to the issue that was there with Arraez, I do believe it is different. Polanco is not the contact hitter that Arraez is (nobody is), but he is a much more complete hitter who better fits the corner inf profile. 20 to 30 home runs and a high RBI total is a reasonable expectation for a healthy Polanco. Defensively, who knows? Arraez became a border-line GG at 1B in what was essentially a trial by fire. Can Polanco do the same; maybe. He is an average 2B who should be able to handle the switch, especially if he is given some reps in ST. The important similarity with Arraez is ongoing leg problems, something that hopefully could be helped by a switch to a less demanding spot. The real key to this option is not Polanco, but the potential replacements at 2B. The safe bets are Farmer and Gordon, both relatively proven players with some limited upside, but fairly established floors. Defensively Farmer may be an upgrade but Gordon's SSS leaves some questions. The downside being that either becoming a regular lessens the utility player pool. The young unproven options with considerable upside potential are Julien and Lewis (already on the 40 man) and Lee and Martin who are not yet on the 40 man, or even at AAA, but could be ready early or mid year. Since 3 of the 4 young options are probably not really available until June or so, this really opens the door for Julien to grab an opportunity to break camp with the big team if Kiriloff struggles health wise. I am definitely hoping that Kiriloff is able to make it back and have a long productive career. He seems to have star potential aplenty. However, for the sake of all of the names above I think it would be wise to start the Polanco experiment sooner rather than later.
    2 points
  47. An above average Kirilloff would be huge.
    2 points
  48. Good take - agreed Kirilloff producing and holding down 1B could be central to a successful season.
    2 points
  49. ACE seems to be a term we apply to those on a HOF track - those who just seem like the will win no matter the game or the opponent. That is not Grey. His experience with the Yankees might demonstrate that the big lights are not for him. Can he be our number one - sure, I expect him to be, but I think the only thing that settles ACE debates is performance on the field. 10 years - 24.9 WAR. An average of 2.5 - last year he was 2.4. That is who he is and I am content with that.
    2 points
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