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I don't know, if I made AA 2 months after being drafted and had a 3 hit game I wouldn't really care what they looked like. And "hitting talent is very very overrated" is a surprising thing to read on a baseball forum.10 points
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The first was a 1-2 pitch he was just trying to make sure he put ball in play, because that is only way to get a hit is to put in play. It was a weak hit but not pure luck or anything. The next 2 hits were not "highlights" but were solid line drives. The point of hitting is to put ball in play and get a hit right? The point is he can put ball in play with solid line drives. He is not going to hit 40 plus HR or anything but he is expected to hit and will have some power. Add in fact he switch hits, that is a huge plus too.9 points
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Thanks for a thoughtful article, Nick. I agree with your comments, though I would add a sixth in Julien, who I think has earned a careful look in Spring Training, especially if he does well in the AFL. He is everything they hoped Martin would be--and on base machine with some pop in his bat. I wish they would have given him a chance in St. Paul this year. Of the five you mentioned, I think Rodriguez is the guy who really excites me. Assuming a full injury recovery, I think he will move quickly and arrive sometime in 2024. He is special. Next year will be a big year for the FO pitching pipeline. If Varland and SWR both arrive and have success, some of the criticism of their efforts will abate. If not, we may be at the point of saying they have failed miserably. Let's hope for the best.9 points
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End of Season Truths and Consequences Pictures Worth A Thousand Cuss Words Rocco, time to get your head out of… Learn to protect your players against weird injuries. When it comes to conditioning, cut back on the weight-lifting, it’s hard on the joints. Instead, go for suppleness and flexibility. But what the hey, keep doing things the way you want. It's your funeral. Today's Pitchers In A Lost Cause Twins: Dylan Bundy 8-7 4.68 ERA 87 SO (4 innings followed by 6 relievers) Royals: Zack Grienke 4-9 4.67 ERA 67 SO Line-Ups Twins: Unknown at this time but sure to defy all baseball logic. KC: TBD (Who knew TBD could also bat?)8 points
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The 5 Most Uplifting Developments on the Farm This Year
Einheri and 7 others reacted to chpettit19 for a topic
I think the more likely outcome in the IF if Correa isn't back is Lewis at SS and Lee at 3B at midseason. Assuming all goes right for both of those players. I'd be quite happy with a Lewis and Lee leftside for the next 7-10 years if they're both what we hope they are.8 points -
Could Another Starter Debut for Minnesota this Year?
IndianaTwin and 6 others reacted to SwainZag for a topic
Why would they trade Gray? His $12M team option seems like a no brainer and he should be realistically in line to starting Opening Day next season.7 points -
Game Thread Twins vs. Royals 9/20/22 7:10 PM CDT (Center of Depressed Twinsfans)
Richie the Rally Goat and 5 others reacted to ashbury for a topic
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Could Another Starter Debut for Minnesota this Year?
mikelink45 and 5 others reacted to chpettit19 for a topic
I like this idea. Give him a start. It's not doing anything drastic to his service time since he likely won't be in the rotation to start 2023 anyways. Let him get the feel and experience of a big league game and be that much more motivated to attack the offseason and come into spring training ready to steal someone's job. I don't see what it could hurt to let him finish the Saints season and then make a start against Chicago to end the season. Overall it's time to turn things over to Varland, Ronny, Ober, Winder, Ryan, Gray this season. Bundy has fulfilled his role, but I don't need to see him start anymore games. Archer's season should be over. Be careful with Gray coming back from his hammy cuz there's no reason not to be, but the rest of the starts should go to young guys who will be part of the future. Don't care about Ws or stats. Get them some experience.6 points -
The 5 Most Uplifting Developments on the Farm This Year
HrbieFan and 5 others reacted to tarheeltwinsfan for a topic
re-sign6 points -
Could Another Starter Debut for Minnesota this Year?
Mike Sixel and 4 others reacted to bean5302 for a topic
Could move Buxton, Mahle or Polanco to the 60 day IL. They're done anyway. Chris Archer, Billy Hamilton, Jake Cave, Sandy Leon, Aaron Sanchez, Derek Rodriguez, Emilio Pagan. Plenty of spots can be opened up easy.5 points -
The 5 Most Uplifting Developments on the Farm This Year
wabene and 4 others reacted to chpettit19 for a topic
I think the general feeling on Lee is he won't have the range to be a big league SS. Now scouts have certainly thought that about others and been proven wrong, but I think Lewis looked like he could handle the position pretty well when he filled in for Correa. I wouldn't be mad with either configuration as both are likely above average 3B, but I'd lean Lewis at SS for the added range he'll likely provide. Mostly I just hope both reach pretty close to their ceilings and things will take care of themselves from there.5 points -
Another interesting question, Ted. Biggest reason to not add him is if he didn't have to be added to the 40-man until 2023. Checked and see that he was a 2018 draft pick, so needs to be added this November. That eliminates that excuse, so what the heck Twins...bring him up for that one game. Heck, maybe he and Varland could get back-to-back starts and we would get a good glimpse of the Twins future, perhaps near future.5 points
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Starting Pitching
flpmagikat and 4 others reacted to Squirrel for a topic
I don't think the problem was Archer and Bundy, but that they were in the rotation back to back, and that they didn't have the long-relief needed to compensate. I don't think either is that awful to be a #5 starter. Both did give us some good games. For me, the issue is building a better BP. One that works with the starters and usage plan they have. I hope they rethink and tweak that usage plan, but mostly, I really want them to build THE bp. They aren't going to go out there and buy the best starting pitching and they aren't going to spend their farm on it, either. So, you stock the starting staff with pitchers who aren't going to go long, but will (hopefully) keep us in games. The answer is the BP, not the starters.5 points -
Lopez is a hot mess...is Rocco's job secure?
Battle ur tail off and 4 others reacted to Squirrel for a topic
I agree that managers are the best scapegoats in these situations. For all the optics in the world, though, a new manager isn't going to change anything except to build our expectations to nothing. What I want to see this off-season, though, is a commitment to a different plan in player/pitcher usage, or at least an admission that they are rethinking, and a real commitment to building a GREAT BP. If that doesn't happen, I think all three need to go. But, I'm not in charge of these things (which is a good thing).5 points -
My initial impression is that he is young and has very good stuff but struggles with command. The question is will he further develop his command, pitch selection, and approach and become a valuable piece going forward, or will he be a Pagan and show great stuff but never put it all together. I think next year will be a big year for him. If he makes strides and harnesses his potential, I think he will be in the bullpen sooner than later. As he is very young, I have a lot of hope.5 points
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Did the Twins Think Their 2022 "Reload" Through Enough?
Barnacles and 4 others reacted to LastOnePicked for a topic
Great article. The Twins FO approach to this offseason reminded me of those kids in high school who slack off for 90% of the term and then start doing extra credit like crazy in the final week. In their haste, they made a number of faulty assumptions: 1) Buxton will remain relatively healthy. 2) The farm system pitching pipeline was ready to flow. 3) Correa's glove and bat would patch any defensive/offensive holes in the infield and lineup. 4) Bullpens are easy to cobble together on the fly. None of those assumptions were true. They let Pagan completely sink the season, acting on the idea that any additional moves they would make at the deadline would carry the team through to a division title in the weak AL Central - or at least a WC spot in an expanded playoff field. Nope. Buxton's detractors were sadly right - he isn't durable enough to warrant the new contract. The pitching pipeline completely dried up, reminding us all what national baseball writers had said in the offseason: Twins pitching scouting and development is nothing special. Correa is a player who feeds on intensity, and he found nothing after May here to build upon in terms of energy. And the bullpen implosions continued, straight out of 2021. Somehow, this organization turned once-strong relievers and closers like Colome, Pagan and Lopez into new versions of Ron Davis. I gotta say, 2021 was far easier to stomach than 2022. This division was wide open for the taking this year. Instead, the Twins experienced another total system failure, bouncing them from first to third when everything mattered most. The FO seems to think they did their best with a reload this year. If so, I'd hate to see their worst attempt.5 points -
If You Want Bold and Aggressive Moves, You've Got to Live with the Risk
chpettit19 and 3 others reacted to Muppet for a topic
Seems to me they should gamble bigger on coaches, trainers, and team psychologists.4 points -
If You Want Bold and Aggressive Moves, You've Got to Live with the Risk
Riverbrian and 3 others reacted to Nick Nelson for a topic
Both have a negative Win Probability Added and significantly below-average ERA so that seems like wishful thinking to me. More realistically, if either one was here (or both) and playing like they have, everyone would be complaining that the front office wasn't proactive in moving them.4 points -
That's how much interest I've lost in the Twins. I didn't even realize until I read your post that MLB is making up the missing games from the 2020 season by tacking on 102 more to the end of this one.4 points
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Game Thread Twins vs. Royals 9/20/22 7:10 PM CDT (Center of Depressed Twinsfans)
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Hey, the Twins have clinched a tie for third and can make the spot their own with a win tonight. Not what we hoped. but it's something...4 points -
Without all three we would be fighting for near last place and not even had been talking about trying to win division. Ryan has been good, but not great, but hopefully he can build off of this season improve and be a solid starter for next few years. Duran looks like he should be a beast for years to come. Miranda leading our team in RBI at 64 is just terrible. I know RBI is not a big stat anymore, but you still need to drive runs in and when our leader is at 64 when I am pretty sure Jose Ramirez had 64 by early July. I believe Miranda will hit at this level and hopefully for years to come with Twins. I am not sold on him being a superstar though but a solid hitter for us.4 points
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Lopez is a hot mess...is Rocco's job secure?
LA VIkes Fan and 3 others reacted to Battle ur tail off for a topic
1 starter, 1 bullpen player each year. Every 2-3 years, one of those starters needs to be something more than a #5 type guy. I honestly don't think they have done a terrible job since getting here developing pitchers. What they haven't done though, is develop anything or have anything in the pipeline even that projects as top of the rotation. This will continue to be the main thing that holds this franchise back from being a real contender.4 points -
Lopez is a hot mess...is Rocco's job secure?
flpmagikat and 3 others reacted to Rosterman for a topic
The pitching pipeline. In 2019, the only pitchers that played in the majors that are still with the Twins are rookies Devin Smeltzer, Randy Dobnak and Cody Stashak, at the time. Tyler Duffey was the main holdover with major league experience. Twins prospects that premiered were: Brusdar Graterol, Sean Poppen, Ryan Eades, Lewis Thorpe. Free agents that came and gone were Martin Perez, Blake Parker, Carlos Torres, and the Twins traded for Sergio Romo and Sam Dyson. Jorge Alcala was added via a trade. In 2020 the Twins elevated prospect Edwar Colina. That's it. They added thru free agency or trades: Danny Coulombe, Juan Minaya, Tyler Clippard, Matt Wisler, Cody Gearin, Kenta Maeda, Homer Bailey. Whew. In 2021, the Twins added thru free agency or trades: Matt Shoemaker, J.A. Happ, Joe Ryan, Hansel Robles, Luke Farrell, Derek Law, Shaun Anderson, Alex Colome, Brandon Waddell, Ian Gibaut, Nick Vincent, Edgar Garcia, Ralph Garza Jr. Kyle Barraclough, John Gant, Beau Burrows. Quite a few names we never ever want to see again. But from the system they promoted: Bailey Ober, Griffin Jax, Charlie Barnes, Jovani Moran. That's it. Do we miss having lefty Charlie Barnes who went across the ocean to pitch instead? 2022, this season, Twins added via free agency or trade: Chris Paddack, Dylan Bundy, Chris Archer, Sonny Gray, Tyler Mahle, Chi Chi Gonzalez, Aaron Sanchez, Derek Rodriguez, Jharel Cotton, Joe Smith, Ian Hamilton, Tyler Thornburg, Jorge Lopez, Jhon Romero, Emilo Pagan, Trevor Megill, Austin Davis, Michael Fulmer, Ronny Henriquez. Prospects given a chance: Yennier Cano, Jhoan Duran, Cole Sands, Josh Winder, Louie Varland. I;m waiting for the pipeline of prospects to materialize. Lot of visits to the "Dollar Store."4 points -
The 5 Most Uplifting Developments on the Farm This Year
wabene and 3 others reacted to Mike Sixel for a topic
Lee and SWR are the cream of those guys, but if Varland is a starter or reliver, is a great story That said, Wallner seems to adjust at every level, and has a pedigree. His ascent is very timely given the health of their projected OF.4 points -
They can do a lot better than Palacios if Correa leaves. Thankfully it isn't either/or.4 points
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Absolutely incredible blog. Thank you for clearly articulating why I have nearly given up on my beloved team after similarly rooting for them for nearly 40 years. in addition to all of your stellar assessments, I believe the hyper focus on analytics is actually eroding our Twins ability to win in big moments. Let me explain. In an ironic twist, I own a data analytics firm of my own (specializing in private higher education enrollment). Analytics are designed to allow the decision makers the ability to make decisions without emotion clouding their judgement. Great. Wonderful concept. But, if all that was needed to run or manage a team was analytics, we wouldn't need a front office or even a manager. We would just need a data analyst to text an operations director in the dugout what they should do. When every single decision is made without emotion, eventually, the players who are generating that analytical data will similarly become conditioned to play with less emotion...and that's the rub. Baseball, nay, sports in general, are designed to be emotional! That's the attraction - both as a player and especially as a fan. I don't want to always see 'the right thing'....I want to see 'the thing that moves me'. I yearn to see the underdog surpass expectations. I hunger to see a manager assess the player at the moment - does he have it right now? Do I leave him in to face the order again? Do I allow a rookie to try to throw a no-hitter?!?!?!? Analytics creates a plan....but no plan is perfect. As I have learned in my business, courageous leadership is about learning how and when to deviate from the plan and how and when to stick to it. Look at Tito Francona, Dave Roberts, Tony LaRussa, Brian Snitker. These guys understand how to manage the emotional side of the game...and their teams have been winners in the clutch. I'm not knocking Rocco. I just think he needs to learn there is an art to leading a team that far beyond what analytics tell you to do in every, stinking, moment.4 points
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Will be interesting next year, Nick. Especially, if Lewis returns playing like he did prior to his injury. Assuming Correa is gone, of the two who is the shortstop? And putting the other at third base isn't an easy answer. If you do, what do you do with Miranda? Appreciate this article, especially after the way this season is ending. Will also agree with those above that Rodriguez could be special. Any word on how bad his knee injury was and how his recovery is coming?4 points
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Lopez is a hot mess...is Rocco's job secure?
Jerr and 3 others reacted to rwilfong86 for a topic
Let's hope so. The Rocco experiment is a failure.4 points -
Just curious why that would be the mark? They are going to miss the playoffs, they have had injuries galore. What's the difference if they finish 2 games under or 2 games over .500 at this point?4 points
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Twins 4, Guardians 11: Gray Injured, Henriquez Debuts in Ugly Loss
DJL44 and 3 others reacted to Nashvilletwin for a topic
Not sure, but I’m cheering for Arraez to win the batting title.4 points -
Lopez is a hot mess...is Rocco's job secure?
wabene and 3 others reacted to tony&rodney for a topic
Falvey, Levine, Rocco are a package deal. One stays, they all stay or one goes, they all go. They are human, have talents, and are capable of reflection and change .... I think.4 points -
Gotta agree with everything here EXCEPT that Byron Buxton wasnt worth the contract. Even injured, he has performed at a value that far exceeds what he is being paid for 2022.4 points
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The 2022 Twins are currently in 3rd place with a 73-74 and are freefalling, as well as horribly injured. They are 1-4 in their last 5 games and 6-12 in their last 18 games. With each passing day, this team’s playoff chances are decreasing. While I hate to be a naysayer, I think it’s unlikely this team makes the postseason. Let’s look ahead at 2023 for a moment. The starting rotation is always a question for the Twins. What will the Twins’ rotation look like in 2023? Well, obviously we will see some of this year’s rotation remain in the rotation next year. There’s no doubt 2021-2022 offseason acquisition Sonny Gray and 2022 July trade deadline acquisition Tyler Mahle will both get spots in the 2023 rotation. Joe Ryan will also in all likelihood get a spot in the 2023 rotation. The remaining two spots, however, are more likely up for grabs. Kenta Maeda, who missed the 2022 season due to Tommy John surgery, could take one of the remaining two spots. The Twins have other options within the organization that could take up one of the remaining spots. The Twins could take that route or they could be spenders in free agency this winter. How do you think the Twins should go about building their 2023 rotation? Do they have the resources within the organization to build a (good) rotation in 2023? If not, who should they add in the offseason?3 points
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Pagan wasn't the type I'd have been hoping to get back, and indeed he was a throw-in (a possible DFA candidate at that), so comparing the two isn't productive. But I was all for trading Rogers, who I thought to be an injury risk until he proves he isn't, as long as they had a plan for replacing his important role in the bullpen. They didn't do that, and compounded the error by trading for a player, in Paddack, who was a bigger injury risk (as the Mets later attested) than Rogers himself. That's what made it a bad trade. Not Pagan. As for the article itself, it sets up a false dilemma. The better option would have been to aim higher. Beat Seattle's offer for Castillo for instance. And we know from the Mahle trade what Cincy was interested in from us, so start from that and add something. (No, I don't know what, but it wouldn't have to involve Royce Lewis etc.) Prime talent will cost you, but going for second best is a false economy.3 points
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Game Thread Twins vs. Royals 9/20/22 7:10 PM CDT (Center of Depressed Twinsfans)
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Game Thread Twins vs. Royals 9/20/22 7:10 PM CDT (Center of Depressed Twinsfans)
ashbury and 2 others reacted to Richie the Rally Goat for a topic
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Game Thread Twins vs. Royals 9/20/22 7:10 PM CDT (Center of Depressed Twinsfans)
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The game threads are poorer in your absence!3 points -
2023 Rotation
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Happ and shoemaker it is.3 points -
I think Jhoan Duran, Jose Miranda and Royce Lewis are the brightest spots for the farm system in general. Those guys have seriously made an impact, even if Lewis didn't have enough time for things to stabilize, he was incredibly exciting when nobody expected him to contribute so quickly. In the minors specifically, I agree about Wallner. He's made a really fantastic change to his game by learning to be more patient and taking walks. It elevates his game dramatically and showcases the fact his ability to read pitches is far greater than I expected. He's a legitimate top prospect for the Twins at this point. Woods-Richardson... well, I don't know. The reports on his velocity and mechanics being all over the place are flat out bad. Maybe he throws 89 or maybe he throws 92. It seems like he's got some great stuff, but only when his mechanics are in order and he's repeating his delivery like he should. I'd like to see him against MLB batters. It's been great to watch Brooks Lee hit well in the minors, just like advertised, and unlike some other prospects who just didn't seem to be able to make the transition in tact. Emmanuel Rodriguez has really turned some heads and rocketed up the prospect chart as a result, but Julien has also had a really great year. That's been a bright spot as well.3 points
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Could Another Starter Debut for Minnesota this Year?
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Good idea , would be nice to get SWR exposure in the bjgs and added to the 40 man roster sooner than in the off season to protect from rule 5 draft , ..... Gee ! who to dfa to clear a spot ,, That's a hard one ,,, the fans would really miss pagan ...3 points -
Best article I've read all year.3 points
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Game Thread Twins vs. Royals 9/20/22 7:10 PM CDT (Center of Depressed Twinsfans)
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Great game thread! Who cares about the lineups!3 points -
If he gets on base I'll take Arriaz levels of weak hits all day! If he develops Miranda's level of power we may be in luck.3 points
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The 3 Most Upsetting Developments on the Farm This Year
chpettit19 and 2 others reacted to TwinsDr2021 for a topic
Is there any reason to put a 23 year old with a career in the minors of .220 BA, .294 OBP and .390 SLG on the 40 man and hit .209 in AA? I think not and I also don't think there is any reason to put a 26 year old career minor league player on the 40, unless of course the Twins plan on converting him to a relief pitcher.3 points -
Twins 4, Guardians 11: Gray Injured, Henriquez Debuts in Ugly Loss
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Can we talk about how bad Jorge Lopez has been? Since coming over he has literally been the same guy Baltimore gave up on as a starter, except now he's imploding from the pen. From an opposing fan perspective the hissy fits on the mound have to be hilarious, from a Twins fan perspective they're also hilarious, but in a sad kind of way. Are we still happy/comfortable with him being locked into a pen spot next year? Yeesh....3 points -
Twins 4, Guardians 11: Gray Injured, Henriquez Debuts in Ugly Loss
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For me, Lopez continuing to struggle was the big news out of this game. He looks like the “old” Lopez ever since the Twins acquired him. Never bet on a reliever who has a half year of success. I hope I am wrong and he comes back strong next year.3 points -
Twins 4, Guardians 11: Gray Injured, Henriquez Debuts in Ugly Loss
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Time to bring up some more of the kids and see what they can do. It does no good to see the marginal vets now that we are pretty much out of this.3 points -
As for the Twins reload, it was very poorly executed. To make matters worse they doubled down and traded away some good prospects at the deadline for what is little to no chance this year. Sure, outside of Fulmer, Mahle and Lopez will be back next year but Mahle is a question mark health wise and Lopez has looked nothing like he did when he was with Baltimore. I would say the FO got fleeced again.3 points
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Did the Twins Think Their 2022 "Reload" Through Enough?
Minny505 and 2 others reacted to Peter Labuza for an article
Were the Twins to go the way of many teams and begin a long rebuild to return to contention? "I'm not using that word," Derek Falvey told the beat writers. Instead, 2022 would be a year for a reload. But what does a successful reload look like? The Twins set out to return to playoff contention as they had in 2019 and 2020. Doing so would require more money and trades than the team had done in previous years of Pohlad ownership. Teams often reload for playoff contention for several reasons but usually require a strong central core and only a few critical holes to fill. For the 2016 Red Sox, their last year with Hall of Famer David Ortiz and an ascending Mookie Betts, it meant grabbing David Price on a $217 million deal and Craig Kimbrel in a trade with San Diego. The team went from last to first in the division for the next three years, including a World Series ring in 2018. However, a better comparison for teams with smaller payrolls might be those 2005 White Sox. Their opening day lineup only featured three of the same faces from 2004, but none were rookies. Instead, Ozzie Guillén and Kenny Williams tried to rethink what kind of players to build around their core, grabbing AJ Pierzynski, Jermaine Dye, Tadahito Iguchi, and Scott Podsednik. Most of their core pitching returned, with Yankees pitcher Orlando Hernández filling in as their fifth man. Their salary ballooned from $65 million to $75 million, while the first-place Twins remained essentially static in the $50 million range. Of course, it was all worth it: the White Sox were an era-defining team, winning the division by six games, going on one of the all-time great post-season runs, and ending an 88-year-old championship drought. For the Twins going into 2022, there was enough in the revolver for one last go of a core set of players: Jorge Polanco, Byron Buxton, Josh Donaldson, Luis Arraez, Mitch Garver, and Miguel Sano, plus some promise with Joe Ryan, Bailey Ober, Trevor Larnach, and Alex Kirilloff to step up (not to mention the many hopes around the arrival of Royce Lewis). Their bullpen had enough interesting names to build around. So why didn't the Twins work? First, the Twins had too many holes to fill, particularly in the starting pitching realm. Ober and Ryan had less than 100 innings under their belts, and Kenta Maeda was merely a glimmer of promise for a late-season comeback. The Twins needed a Day One starter, but quickly missed names like Carlos Rodon, Marcus Stroman, and Noah Syndergaard, all of who made splashy but not impossible out-of-reach deals for the organization to match. When the market reopened, the Twins rebounded by making the smart move to trade their first-round draft pick for Sonny Gray. But then they went with not one not two but three different "fix me up" projects: Dylan Bundy, Chris Archer, and Chris Paddack. Beyond Gray, that left five essentially unproven starters on opening day. The bullpen additions were equally shaky with the additions of Joe Smith and Emilio Pagán while dealing Taylor Rogers. Most importantly, the Twins essentially committed almost no new money in this realm beyond their trade capital, an odd sign for a team serious about contending. Of course, the Twins put money down this season with a pair of $100+ million contracts: an extension of Buxton and a second in a blockbuster deal to commit $35.1 million a year to Carlos Correa. Bringing in a playoff specialist like Correa was the essential move they needed. It at least felt part of their decision to erase bad clubhouse vibes by flipping Josh Donaldson for Yankees veterans Gio Urshela and Gary Sánchez. Neither Urshela nor Sánchez were the top Bronx bombers, but there was plenty of sense they were the kind of players who understood big spots and big games. And yet, the Twins probably remained slim in other veteran talent to reinforce their lineup. The previous year had demonstrated that the team did not have their prospects ready to go as eight different men took to center field to fill in injury after injury. Whether the Twins expected this year's injury woes to be worse than last year, their decision to depend entirely on prospects to back up Buxton and Kepler felt short-sided with plenty of low-end veterans available on the market (Kevin Pillar for example took a minor league deal with the Dodgers). A strong reload rarely means depending on new players—those 2005 Sox were all veterans beyond their season call-up of closer Bobby Jenks—but the Twins seemingly put a lot of hope on what feels like too many prospects suddenly becoming core players. Jose Miranda, Griffin Jax, and Jhoan Duran, have made themselves essential to this year's success, but others still have question marks about their long term viability (whether injury or ability). Either way, building through prospects is similar to what this year's Mariners have done where team has done after a long rebuild where they plan on years of contention after making a number of high profile trades and signings of known quantities to reinforce any flops of their prospects (Julio Rodríguez and George Kirby has outshined all potential, while Jarred Kelenic has essentially disappeared). Reloads are not just about graduating prospects; it's about building with those who don't need time to figure out their success. In another world, Donaldson was traded for prospects rather than big leaguers, and you could imagine Buxton, Polanco, and even Arraez packing their bags for other ballparks. Watching multiple seasons of poor performance in the hope of a good team down the road is no one's idea of fun, so the fact that the Twins pushed this year remains a blessing. But in retrospect, their approach in the reload feels odd. The Twins did increase their salary by 20% this season, but in the end, they were perhaps not in the place for the reload that wins championships. What was missing from the Twins reload? Sound off in the comments.3 points -
The 3 Most Upsetting Developments on the Farm This Year
Blyleven2011 and 2 others reacted to Karbo for a topic
Maybe its time to leave Martin alone and let him hit the way he's comfortable hitting. IMO if he can play defense, a lower avg. is OK as long as his OB avg stays reasonable.3 points
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I really hold back what I would like to say about then payroll arguments here. The fact that people don't accept the amount taken in dictates the amount going out requires one of two things. Extreme financial ignorance or fanatical bias that prevents the acceptance of something some basic. I did not change the argument. It's the same idiocy over and over. Do you really want to be on the side that suggests revenues does not determine spending capacity?· 0 replies
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