Scouting Twins Prospects: Sawyer Gipson-Long

What does his fastball top out at?

Thanks for the great article.

I noticed his peripherals recently and remembered his name from being a second day draft pick, but it's good to get some recent scouting data.  I wonder if he's a bit too in the zone which has lead to a bit higher batting averages against him than you might expect with the rest of his peripherals.  If he's already got the command he can work on refining his approach in different counts and situations though.  That slider looked perfectly placed to get hitters at any level though.

We're starting to see a lot of potentially solid mid-rotation arms pop up from all over the system.  It seems like developing those top of the rotation arms is still a challenge as always, but I definitely believe they've built up the depth to fill up the middle and back of the rotation with competent homegrown guys for years to come.  Hopefully if the front office can stop needing to fill out the rotation in free agency they can get a couple top targets to build around.

Thanks for the insight.  I read his name in the minor league summaries, but knew nothing about him.  I have no expectations, but now I can read about him with some background.

53 minutes ago, Lucas Seehafer PT said:

He can touch the mid-90s but generally works 92-93 mph at the moment. 

Video scouting report from June of this year indicated his velocity was 90-92mph on the fastball, touching 93.

I don't have a problem with Gipson-long being left out of the top 30. There is a huge amount of mid-level talent in the Twins' system and it makes it hard to rank players. While the strikeout and walk numbers are very good, he gives up a ton of hits. The stats on batted balls is pretty sketchy from the minors, but it looks like he's a high ground ball rate pitcher which is nice. The ERA is suffering because of a high BABIP. That indicates one of two things. One, his stuff doesn't play and batters are barreling him up frequently or two, he's just been unlucky at every level so far.

Here's hoping the changeup turns into something nice for him and he's able to get some starts in without the red flag on the hits/BABIP.

2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

I don't have a problem with Gipson-long being left out of the top 30. There is a huge amount of mid-level talent in the Twins' system and it makes it hard to rank players. While the strikeout and walk numbers are very good, he gives up a ton of hits. The stats on batted balls is pretty sketchy from the minors, but it looks like he's a high ground ball rate pitcher which is nice. The ERA is suffering because of a high BABIP. That indicates one of two things. One, his stuff doesn't play and batters are barreling him up frequently or two, he's just been unlucky at every level so far.

Here's hoping the changeup turns into something nice for him and he's able to get some starts in without the red flag on the hits/BABIP.

Infield defenses in low A don't tend to be great at suppressing BABIP on ground balls

40 minutes ago, 2wins87 said:

Infield defenses in low A don't tend to be great at suppressing BABIP on ground balls

BABIP doesn't inflate because of errors. In A+ this year for the 165 pitchers with 50+ innings, the median BABIP is .305.

1 hour ago, bean5302 said:

BABIP doesn't inflate because of errors. In A+ this year for the 165 pitchers with 50+ innings, the median BABIP is .305.

There are a lot of ways that inexperienced, stretched, or just bad defense can lead to guys getting on base without the official scorer handing out an error.

I LOVE these reports on milb talent! And I appreciate this and every other report. It helps us get to know these prosoects better, and remind us who they are.

And I can't help but humbly apologize as about a week ago I commented how good a start Gipson-Long had after a similar TDpost. And then I realized I was thinking about Gross. So I offer humble apologies from someone who SHOULD know better considering how faithful I try to follow the system.

And then I not only felt a little better after I realized they were BOTH drafted in 2019, Gipson-Long in the 6th round, and Gross in the 10th round, but also because they are very similar in regard to prospect status. There has been this very long discussion about our FO building an infrastructure similar to Houston and Cleveland and TB,  and it sends my mind racing!

These are the kind of pitchers drafted by those organizations and turned in to quality starters. You do realize that Balazovic and Winder, and Ryan, and others, weren't top of the of the order  draft picks, right?

3 hours ago, 2wins87 said:

There are a lot of ways that inexperienced, stretched, or just bad defense can lead to guys getting on base without the official scorer handing out an error.

• A = .319 (Gipson-long .369 vs. Twins A- pitchers with 10+ IP .319)
• A+= .305 (Gipson-long .421 vs. Twins A+ pitchers with 10+ IP .300)
• AA = .302
• AAA = .302
• MLB = .281

All the leagues are all showing typical BABIP results over thousands of innings played. Low-A's elevated BABIP across the league may reflect some defensive hiccups, but there's no evidence Gipson-long has been the victim of poor defense which just didn't result in an error being charged.

My only worry is that Sawer Gipson-Long and Simeon Woods-Richardson will consume a total of 3 lines on the 40-man roster.

On 8/31/2021 at 9:18 AM, Dodecahedron said:

G-L could be one of those guys who figures things out, but if that happens it will probably be as a very good reliever.

Waaaaaaay too early to jump to to a conclusion.  He is 23 and we lost  a season of development last year.  We have seen them add velo with other guys.  A couple MPH could make a big difference and this guy has the frame and athleticism.  Refining the changeup for a 3rd pitch would be big and he has plus control.  Let's not write the guy off top the BP just yet.  The negativity around here is a real downer.