June 18, 201313 yr Can AP play CF? He's pretty quick. After that performance last year, I have no doubt AP can do pretty darn much anything he decides he wants to do.
June 18, 201313 yr Jim Callis @jimcallisBA11s#Twins sign 10th-rder C.K. Irby for $138,400. Could be steal. Samford RHP was SP/1B/3B this yr, better as RP w/FB to 95 & + curve. #mlbdraft
June 18, 201313 yr Jim Callis @jimcallisBA39s#Twins sign 7th-rder Brian Gilbert for $120k. Seton Hall RHP, bullpen guy, 92-95 mph fastball, improving slider. #mlbdraftExpand 76k under slot.
June 18, 201313 yr 76k under slot. The Twins are now $337,700 under budget. Gonsalves will be over slot. Molina will be over slot. Stewart will be near slot. (No there isn't enough money to sign Shore.)
June 18, 201313 yr The Twins are now $337,700 under budget. Gonsalves will be over slot. Molina will be over slot. Stewart will be near slot. (No there isn't enough money to sign Shore.) Remember, the Twins can go about 400k over budget and not have any draft repercussions, only a 75% fine. So, that gets us to about $750k in "bonus" slot money
June 18, 201313 yr Remember, the Twins can go about 400k over budget and not have any draft repercussions, only a 75% fine. So, that gets us to about $750k in "bonus" slot money And Molina was pick 11 so if they decided not to sign him they wouldn't lose any of the draft pool. Though I don't have the emotional ties to Shore some folks do, he looks good on paper but a lot of prep arms do.
June 18, 201313 yr Correct on not signing Molina; but he was in town for his physical and to sign last weekend, so it's a done deal... he's not going to cost much over $100k. I also think the Twins would much rather have a prospect that they believe can hit and has a legitimate chance to stay at shortstop. Shore's bonus would be 10-15 times as much as Molina's. (Plus, you're better if you have a "Molina" in your system. Proven fact... or something like that.)
June 18, 201313 yr Remember, the Twins can go about 400k over budget and not have any draft repercussions, only a 75% fine. So, that gets us to about $750k in "bonus" slot money I would be surprised if the Twins were willing to pay any taxes. I'm guessing they will come in right under the slot allotment again this year.
June 18, 201313 yr The Twins are now $337,700 under budget. Gonsalves will be over slot. Molina will be over slot. Stewart will be near slot. (No there isn't enough money to sign Shore.) There have been a ton of 10-40 round guys who have signed over slot this year so far. Hopefully Molina is just the start for over slot late round guys for the Twins. Obviously Shore is impossible to sign, as many have pointed out before, but there are other hard signings I would like to see the Twins pay.
June 18, 201313 yr There have been a ton of 10-40 round guys who have signed over slot this year so far. Hopefully Molina is just the start for over slot late round guys for the Twins. Obviously Shore is impossible to sign, as many have pointed out before, but there are other hard signings I would like to see the Twins pay. Which of the late round guys are hard signs that you'd like?
June 18, 201313 yr AJ Bogucki, a Pennsylvania prep who is committed to UNC and Chris Erwin, lefty Georgia prep committed to Kennesaw State. Bogucki would probably command a little more hefty of a price tag, but has a nice build already and is full of projection. Obviously he's going to get more opportunity to play at UNC and probably against better competition (at least early), but in three years he could be a Top 5 or 6 round guy. (He could also be brutal... lottery ticket-type guy.) Erwin might sign. Smallish lefty who gets two-way comps to Nick Markakis out of high school. He could eventually be a mid-rotation starter with three really good pitches. He's young and under-developed, though, so college could do wonders for him too. (Another lottery ticket-type.) Those would be my two anyway (even ahead of Shore), who I think will develop into a first-round pick after some seasoning at Florida. I just know they won't be able to free up the money he would command.
June 18, 201313 yr I also think the Twins would much rather have a prospect that they believe can hit and has a legitimate chance to stay at shortstop. Shore's bonus would be 10-15 times as much as Molina's. (Plus, you're better if you have a "Molina" in your system. Proven fact... or something like that.) Can he play catcher? I think the Molina Prophacy only applies to catchers. The Twins did seem to target them in this draft though. Maybe they were confused.
June 18, 201313 yr Can he play catcher? I think the Molina Prophacy only applies to catchers. The Twins did seem to target them in this draft though. Maybe they were confused. If his last name is Molina, I'm sure he can play catcher. Maybe he can take all of those "Molina skills" and apply them at shortstop.
June 18, 201313 yr Which of the late round guys are hard signs that you'd like? Twins only took 10 prep players. Here are a few of the late round guys. A.J. Bogucki, 6'3" HS RHP who is committed to North Carolina. Tough signing but could be had. Pitchers body. Currently sits in the high 80s but fastball has hit 93 several times. Like Shore, 99% chance he won't sign. Steven Stensley, 6'1" HS OF, who is committed to LSU-Eunice. Performed poorly his senior year of college but could develop average+ hit/power tools. Future corner outfielder. Taylor Batch, 5'11" HS RHP, who is committed to Florida State. Even though he is undersized he has a solid fast ball with a change up and slider that flash plus at times. Lots of control issues. Chris Erwin, 6'0" HS LHP, Kennesaw State recruit. Has a High 80s fastball.
June 18, 201313 yr AJ Bogucki, a Pennsylvania prep who is committed to UNC and Chris Erwin, lefty Georgia prep committed to Kennesaw State. Bogucki would probably command a little more hefty of a price tag, but has a nice build already and is full of projection. Obviously he's going to get more opportunity to play at UNC and probably against better competition (at least early), but in three years he could be a Top 5 or 6 round guy. (He could also be brutal... lottery ticket-type guy.) Erwin might sign. Smallish lefty who gets two-way comps to Nick Markakis out of high school. He could eventually be a mid-rotation starter with three really good pitches. He's young and under-developed, though, so college could do wonders for him too. (Another lottery ticket-type.) Those would be my two anyway (even ahead of Shore), who I think will develop into a first-round pick after some seasoning at Florida. I just know they won't be able to free up the money he would command. Beat me to it! Bogucki would be a great signing but UNC kids normally go to school.
June 19, 201313 yr I really wouldn't expect the Twins to pay any of the tax unless Shore's agent approached them with a proposal (like 600-700K) which at this point would way below his reported demands. I am hoping that they can grab 1-2 guys in the 100-200K range.
June 19, 201313 yr Bogucki just tweeted that he is moving in tomorrow, doesn't seem too interested in signing. Edited June 19, 201313 yr by Jeremy Nygaard
June 19, 201313 yr Nelson Molina and Tanner Mendonca have both reached agreements, pending physicals. They are scheduled to arrive in FM on Thursday. Contracts to be signed Friday or Saturday. Is Nelson related to Bengie, Yadi and Jose?
June 19, 201313 yr Jim Callis @jimcallisBA3m#Twins sign 1st-rder Kohl Stewart for $4,544,400. Texas HS RHP, four plus pitches & Verlander comps at times, Texas A&M QB recruit #mlbdraft
June 19, 201313 yr Dustin Morse tweeted that the Twins have signed 21 of their first 25 picks. That leaves Eades, Slegers and DeMuth (all from the top 10 rounds) and 16th rounder LP Brandon Bixler.
June 19, 201313 yr Is Nelson related to Bengie, Yadi and Jose? Checked in. No relation. But is the power of the "Molina" in the DNA or simply in the name?
June 19, 201313 yr Dustin Morse tweeted that the Twins have signed 21 of their first 25 picks. That leaves Eades, Slegers and DeMuth (all from the top 10 rounds) and 16th rounder LP Brandon Bixler. With Indiana still being in the tourney Slegers, DeMuth, and Halstead can't sign. Now that LSU is out I'm sure Eades will sign quick. Not sure what the snag is on Bixler. With Stewart signing at slot I'm interested where all the under slot money is going. Gonsalves and Molina couldn't have eaten up the whole ~340k, could they? I'm not expecting any of the college guys above to get anything but slot.
June 19, 201313 yr I would be surprised if the Twins were willing to pay any taxes. I'm guessing they will come in right under the slot allotment again this year. i think benjamin franklin said it best when he said "there are only two certainties in life: death and the twins avoidance of taxes". same guy that said "beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy" so he may be the wisest person who ever lived.
June 19, 201313 yr I really wouldn't expect the Twins to pay any of the tax unless Shore's agent approached them with a proposal (like 600-700K) which at this point would way below his reported demands. I am hoping that they can grab 1-2 guys in the 100-200K range. i like signing local kids but i don't think shore is worth anything north of $600-700k. let the kids go to college and increase the pool at that level - that'll be best for the game.
June 19, 201313 yr i think benjamin franklin said it best when he said "there are only two certainties in life: death and the twins avoidance of taxes". same guy that said "beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy" so he may be the wisest person who ever lived. To be fair, doesn't everybody try to avoid taxes? Love the second part.
June 19, 201313 yr Jim Callis @jimcallisBA3m#Twins sign 1st-rder Kohl Stewart for $4,544,400. Texas HS RHP, four plus pitches & Verlander comps at times, Texas A&M QB recruit #mlbdraft serioulsy, read that line again: four plus pitches? i don't know if i've ever seen that in print before.
June 19, 201313 yr To be fair, doesn't everybody try to avoid taxes? Love the second part. i'd say there are more than a few free spending clubs that scoff at the idea of being taxed.
June 19, 201313 yr I could see Gonsalves taking up a lot of that. I exchanged texts on Saturday night with someone who had knowledge of both figures. I guessed $4.25m on Stewart and $800k on Gonsalves. He said I was closer on Gonsalves. Obviously that doesn't say much (gives us a $500k to $1.1m range), but he obviously got over slot ($468k). I'm not expecting Molina to take up much... how much is a "little over slot". But I could see Gonsalves' bonus somewhere in that $700k range. (I could also be way off.)
June 19, 201313 yr On an aside, I'm pretty excited to see the Twins pairing Stewart and Gonsalves up. Going to the GCL together, rooming together, etc. They'll (hopefully) stay on the same path until Stewart just gets too good. Right?
June 19, 201313 yr TR just said Gonsalves signed for "in the vicinity of slot". If that's the case, what a steal. At this time last year, the Twins had a late 1st round grade on him. He has the potential to develop into a top-of-the-rotation starter. Wow. Can't wait to hear the actual bonus.
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