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If only the Twins could find a right handed bat who averages 38 home runs, 98 RBI, 90 runs scored per 162 games with a career OPS over .800


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  On 12/31/2022 at 1:47 AM, Vanimal46 said:

I posted a couple of times in the Sano Farewell threads that he’ll have a hard time finding employment this winter. I didn’t think he would get an MLB contract and will have to settle for a minor league + ST invite deal. He will be joining old friend Willians Astudillo in Japan by 2024. 

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Sadaharu Oh - No!

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  On 12/29/2022 at 1:46 AM, dxpavelka said:

If only the Twins could find a right handed bat who averages 38 home runs, 98 RBI, 90 runs scored per 162 games with a career OPS over .800

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the problem here is that he last reached those marks:

38 home runs (never)

98 rbi (never even close)

90  runs scored (never even close)

162 games (never even close)

.800 OPS (not since 2019)

I have no problem with the idea of bringing him back but his 162-game paces mean almost nothing

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  On 12/31/2022 at 5:55 PM, dxpavelka said:

I'm hoping that an incarnation of Sano that I've seen before still exists.  You're hoping that a version of Kirilloff you've never seen actually might exist.  Willing to take my chances.

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Why would we put hope in Sano, when we could go get a freely available righty bat with the below 162 games average?

37 HR, 87 R, 105 RBI, .859 OPS?

He also had an OPS above .800 more recently than Sano, and drastically outperformed Sano in 2022.

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  On 12/31/2022 at 10:29 PM, dxpavelka said:

Hits for average but scores and drives in runs at a pedestrian rates.  That screams empty to me.  The game's about scoring runs not hitting for average.

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It's a lot easier to score runs when there are guys on base.  Guys who hit for average tend to be on base a lot.

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  On 1/4/2023 at 8:36 PM, bloggymcbloggerson said:

 

the problem here is that he last reached those marks:

38 home runs (never)

98 rbi (never even close)

90  runs scored (never even close)

162 games (never even close)

.800 OPS (not since 2019)

I have no problem with the idea of bringing him back but his 162-game paces mean almost nothing

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How many guys on the current roster not named Buxton are gonna hit any of those numbers in either a single season OR over a 162 game pace?  HR:  Nobody although Gary Sanchez is at 37 per 162.  Miranda's is the apple of our eye and paced 86 RBI per 162.  Arraez won a batting title and does actually match Sano's per 162 runs scored.  Arraez played 144 games and won a batting title with an OPS under .800.  That's hard to do.  Career OPS is even lower.  This squad scored less than 700 runs last year and doesn't return Correa, Urshela and almost certainly Sanchez.  Not gonna compete without scoring 800 and I have no clue where those would come from.  Don't think they do either.

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  On 1/4/2023 at 10:07 PM, Cap'n Piranha said:

Why would we put hope in Sano, when we could go get a freely available righty bat with the below 162 games average?

37 HR, 87 R, 105 RBI, .859 OPS?

He also had an OPS above .800 more recently than Sano, and drastically outperformed Sano in 2022.

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Not sure who you're referring to but do tell and also let me know when we go out and get said guy.  Not holding my breath.

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  On 1/5/2023 at 2:01 AM, Cap'n Piranha said:

That would be Nelson Cruz.  I’m sure the Twins would have no difficulties in signing him.

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I'd have no issue with bringing back Cruz considering the dregs we're likely to throw into the DH hole.  There is however, a slight difference between a 29 year old Sano and a 42 year old Cruz.

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  On 1/5/2023 at 5:43 AM, dxpavelka said:

I'd have no issue with bringing back Cruz considering the dregs we're likely to throw into the DH hole.  There is however, a slight difference between a 29 year old Sano and a 42 year old Cruz.

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I guess I wouldn’t consider Miranda, Kirilloff and Arraez dregs as they are likely, at this point, going to get the most time there and, imo, do better than Sano

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  On 1/5/2023 at 5:43 AM, dxpavelka said:

I'd have no issue with bringing back Cruz considering the dregs we're likely to throw into the DH hole.  There is however, a slight difference between a 29 year old Sano and a 42 year old Cruz.

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Oh no doubt.  I'd have no problem giving him a minor league deal.  I think he is one of those guys you are constantly having to kick in the rear end to keep him motivated.  Unfortunately, that can be a bit of a clubhouse cancer when he's not doing well and so are a bunch of other guys.

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  On 1/4/2023 at 8:36 PM, bloggymcbloggerson said:

 

the problem here is that he last reached those marks:

38 home runs (never)

98 rbi (never even close)

90  runs scored (never even close)

162 games (never even close)

.800 OPS (not since 2019)

I have no problem with the idea of bringing him back but his 162-game paces mean almost nothing

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Exactly.  There is a certain cheer leader squad that will do anything to defend that dude (Sano) no matter how poorly he plays and then that same group turns around and trashes Kepler and other guys endlessly.  if the organization wants to bring Sano back on a minor league deal, i'm not opposed, but it would have to be under very strict guidelines which Sano is not capable of fulfilling in my opinion.  

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  On 1/5/2023 at 12:31 PM, laloesch said:

Oh no doubt.  I'd have no problem giving him a minor league deal.  I think he is one of those guys you are constantly having to kick in the rear end to keep him motivated.  Unfortunately, that can be a bit of a clubhouse cancer when he's not doing well and so are a bunch of other guys.

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As long as Cruz is part of  the discussion, it's worth noting his clubhouse influence-ESPECIALLY on Sano.  Might be a  guy worth having around even after his playing days.  Not like Sano's the only Latino in that clubhouse either.

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  On 1/5/2023 at 12:59 PM, dxpavelka said:

As long as Cruz is part of  the discussion, it's worth noting his clubhouse influence-ESPECIALLY on Sano.  Might be a  guy worth having around even after his playing days.  Not like Sano's the only Latino in that clubhouse either.

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I agree.  Cruz is a positive guy to have around.  Always gives it 110%.

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