Oh good lord....now we're going to have to hear even more on C4.

27 minutes ago, CRF said:

Ok...now that SF and NY both had "concerns" about his injury/condition, how is it that he passed the physical with the Twins? This whole thing isn't adding up. 

If you're referring to the deal he signed last year, he passed the physical because it was for 1 year, not 12 or 13. And he had a slide this last season where he felt something in his surgically repaired leg. It's entirely possible that that slide aggravated something and the Drs with these other teams are now seeing that that leg isn't likely to hold up for as long as they'd like. Or the insurance company, as others have stated, don't like the odds of it holding up.

He hasn't taken a physical for the Twins after their 10/285 offer so if that's the one you were referencing it's as simple as it hasn't happened so he hasn't passed anything.

1 minute ago, chpettit19 said:

If you're referring to the deal he signed last year, he passed the physical because it was for 1 year, not 12 or 13. And he had a slide this last season where he felt something in his surgically repaired leg. It's entirely possible that that slide aggravated something and the Drs with these other teams are now seeing that that leg isn't likely to hold up for as long as they'd like. Or the insurance company, as others have stated, don't like the odds of it holding up.

He hasn't taken a physical for the Twins after their 10/285 offer so if that's the one you were referencing it's as simple as it hasn't happened so he hasn't passed anything.

Your narrative didn't cast the Twins in the worst light, sir. 

14 minutes ago, jmlease1 said:

The chaos and mayhem around Correa's signing/not signing is sort of funny, but I'm not sure it does anything for the Twins. The way Cohen is spending on the Mets and not caring about his luxury tax impacts suggests to me that even if there is "something" in his physical, it's unlikely to matter. Cohen right now doesn't care about insurance and will almost certainly overrule his staff if needed. Wonder if this makes SF feel better?

(Will Cohen start caring about all of the money running out the door if a) he doesn't win a title, or b) if he does? That might get interesting. Sometimes these guys flip the other way once they get that achievement...)

Until we get more detail on what the issue is, I have no ability to judge the possible severity and impact and whether the Twins should try and jump back in. I do think if Boros is saying "no, you can't investigate this before increasing your offer if you want to get back in" then the Twins have to step carefully, because that's a red alert.

The Cohen situation is interesting. He didn't overrule his staff on Rocker last year. How much more does he want Correa? I'd guess a lot, but he's also not blindly doing deals. He let deGrom walk. Likely due to his injury concerns I'd guess. He's aggressive, but I don't know that we should just assume he's going to be reckless here.

4 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Your narrative didn't cast the Twins in the worst light, sir. 

That's my bad. The Twins definitely should've been concerned about what Correa's leg would look like in 8 years when they were signing a 1 year deal. They're so dumb!

I know Mike knows that's sarcasm, but for anyone questioning, that was sarcasm.

23 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Various reports over the past 24 hours have indicated the Giants raised concerns regarded Correa’s right leg. As a prospect in the Astros organization, a then 19-year-old Correa fractured his right fibula while playing in High-A in June 2014. The injury required surgery and cost him the remainder of that season. Last night, Andrew Baggarly of The Athletic wrote about the dilemma and called San Francisco’s concern “pretty obvious” while linking to a 2014 Houston Chronicle story about the fibula fracture.

I believe Correa had a hard slide this summer and felt some pain around the metal plate. I don't believe he missed any time, but something might be showing up on x-rays that raises concern.

This is fairly accurate. In a Sept 20th game vs. Royals, Correa tweaked his surgically-repaired ankle and said it went numb & was tingling. The last time the Twins had a physical done with Correa was March 2022. According to Rosenthal & Hayes, the Twins requested a new physical when the Giants deal fell apart and also wanted some time to look into it, but instead, Boras moved on to the Mets. I did a deep-dive on all of this & Correa's related injuries in my latest video: 

 

1 hour ago, Danchat said:

The drama never ends! What happens next, nobody knows! I think there’s still a chance he ends up a Twin, but would he pass a physical here?

Ha, he already did once!

20 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

If you're referring to the deal he signed last year, he passed the physical because it was for 1 year, not 12 or 13. And he had a slide this last season where he felt something in his surgically repaired leg. It's entirely possible that that slide aggravated something and the Drs with these other teams are now seeing that that leg isn't likely to hold up for as long as they'd like. Or the insurance company, as others have stated, don't like the odds of it holding up.

He hasn't taken a physical for the Twins after their 10/285 offer so if that's the one you were referencing it's as simple as it hasn't happened so he hasn't passed anything.

Everyone treated the deal like a one year deal, but it was three. And with the new injury concern news, those two extra years for 70M made the deal more of a reality than we thought.

Just now, nicksaviking said:

Everyone treated the deal like a one year deal, but it was three. And with the new injury concern news, those two extra years for 70M made the deal more of a reality than we thought.

Strongly disagree. You're assuming their injury concerns are for the first 1 or 2 years of 12 and 13 year deals. But to each their own.

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

Everyone treated the deal like a one year deal, but it was three. And with the new injury concern news, those two extra years for 70M made the deal more of a reality than we thought.

Yep. Could have been the worst case scenario. 

2 minutes ago, Linus said:

Yep. Could have been the worst case scenario. 

And yet, it wasn't. 

47 minutes ago, HerbieFan said:

Oh good lord....now we're going to have to hear even more on C4.

I hope the C4 chatter becomes C-ya-later chatter ?

16 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

And yet, it wasn't. 

Gee I hadn’t noticed. 

1 hour ago, CRF said:

Ok...now that SF and NY both had "concerns" about his injury/condition, how is it that he passed the physical with the Twins? This whole thing isn't adding up. 

The same way that Paddock, Mahle & Dyson did. ?

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

Some people just have to assume the worst about the Twins, in every situation. 

Well they have given us plenty of reasons over the years.

1 hour ago, Dave The Dastardly said:

Sure he'd pass a Twins physical. Buxton did, right?

Pete Gray could pass a Twins physical.

I'll be interesting how this "novella" ends. My guess is that he'll stick it out at NYM & take any adjustment.

I'm glad this happened to a Boras client.  I hope this turns out bad for Boras.  Boras is bad for baseball.

35 minutes ago, SanoMustGo said:

I'm glad this happened to a Boras client.  I hope this turns out bad for Boras.  Boras is bad for baseball.

Because he gets his clients big money? How? 

Called this one.    Still think he ends up with Mets, but very interested to see what the final deal ends up with.

When the agent is busting team's chops to get a deal done in a hurry, caveat emptor.

I see 5/130 as reasonable 

2 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Because he gets his clients big money? How? 

what he said

I saw this earlier today and was hoping it worked out in the Twins favor.

But on second thought I hope it works out for Carlos Correa. Whatever that may be. Some athlete with a knee/leg/ whatever issue. I get it. 8-12 years with that in the background has to be cause for pause. BUT if you're signing anyone for that long you already threw caution to the wind. Stop trying to buy low and take care of the guy and his family. Did we notice anything last season. I sure didn't. 

4 hours ago, SanoMustGo said:

I'm glad this happened to a Boras client.  I hope this turns out bad for Boras.  Boras is bad for baseball.

Agreed.

So much said above and so much worth commenting on.  But I'll just say that the Twins should jump in right now and offer Correa (and Boras) 3 years at $15M/year.  That's he's worth now that ankle, knee, and/or leg may give out at any time.

This is sarcasm.  Please don't respond.

Let's give him $40m a year for the next three years with opt outs........

10 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Everyone treated the deal like a one year deal, but it was three. And with the new injury concern news, those two extra years for 70M made the deal more of a reality than we thought.

As many days off as Baldelli gave him, I would say that the Team Brass wasn't treating it like a one year. They were definitely treating him as an investment to be given rest for long lasting performance and durability (or at least hoping). If not, and he was a one year only investment, they would have played him more. That is what they were paying him to do. Play. Not sit on the bench.

Censored again. Let's try it this way...... since apparently you can't give a player a nickname, even if he basically gave it to himself.

No more shopping at Dior.....

time for the Thrift Store.

It even rhymes. ?

It really surprises me that Correa so easily bows out of SS and is good with playing 3rd. That is another devaluation. Just one year away from his Platinum Glove award at Shortstop, Is Lindor really that much the better option at short? I you had them both, who would you chose to play Shortstop?

 

13 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

You think the twins got that deal, because they thought he was healthy? 

No way they made the offer they signed him to if  they didn't think he was healthy.

11 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

No way they made the offer they signed him to if  they didn't think he was healthy.

Buxton? That post is about Buxton.