Looks like a non-tender to me, but this team traded Hansel Robles so I guess he could be traded. Send him off for a non-top 30 prospect pitcher if you can, just get him out of Minnesota. Maybe the Dodgers will pick it up

In another thread I just saw the suggestion of now backup Jorge Mateo on the Orioles. Pagan would be a really good fit there.

He is the most homer prone pitcher in MLB with peripherals that scream great pitcher otherwise. But those homers. They kill him like no other pitcher in baseball. It's almost unbelieveable.

But now the Orioles have the most homer suppressing stadium in baseball. Pagan would be the best test the Orioles could give to their new dimensions to see how far they can ride that potential competitive advantage. 

The Orioles dumping a superfluous SS on the roster makes sense. 

Not saying Pagan would get it done, but he may have value there. Throw in another minor piece, some SP prospect in the 10ish range, and they might bite.

 

6 hours ago, old nurse said:

Rogers lost the lead in 10 games this year. That kind of production would have netted the Twins a better draft pick

While I agree with your statement,  I wonder if he would have had better results in Minnesota.  His overall pitching line for the season is similar from season to season in terms of hits, K's and walks. and HRs.  He could have had better results for the right situation and that could be the Twins.

 

On 10/18/2022 at 6:06 PM, jorgenswest said:

Would he get more as a free agent than 3.7 million? 

Last year the three one year contracts nearest that range were Adam Ottavino(4), Archie Bradley(3.75) and David Robertson(3.5). Two were dominant and the other injured.

Seems like the smart move is to see what 3.7 million buys in free agency. Why give up a player and pay Pagán?

BTV nailed his trade value. 0.

I just want to say that you post solid stuff. I can always count on your postings to be well researched and logical. I may see things differently from time to time but I know you are coming from solid ground. 

Cheers to ya. 

6 hours ago, Brandon said:

While I agree with your statement,  I wonder if he would have had better results in Minnesota.  His overall pitching line for the season is similar from season to season in terms of hits, K's and walks. and HRs.  He could have had better results for the right situation and that could be the Twins.

 

Maybe losing his closer role to Colome messed with his head. Relievers are smallish sample size. 2 numbers were higher. BB/9, HR/9. That is not a good combination when they happen in the same inning 

12 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

I just want to say that you post solid stuff. I can always count on your postings to be well researched and logical. I may see things differently from time to time but I know you are coming from solid ground. 

Cheers to ya. 

It wouldn’t be any fun if we all agreed. I appreciate most when I have realized that a discussion has caused me to change my thinking.