1 minute ago, Irishman said:

Twins pitching falls apart after Wes Johnson left for LSU.

I think the stat I heard was 29th in team ERA since he left.

3 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

SanD broadcast just put up a graphic....since 7/4 Twins starters ERA 6.81

And that will go up tonight. 

2 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Twins pitching falls apart after Wes Johnson left for LSU.

It was falling apart before he left.

Sometimes it hurts, sometimes it hurts alot....

Twins pitching seems to cure other teams hitting problems.

3 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Twins pitching falls apart after Wes Johnson left for LSU.

He was still here for that Cleveland series meltdown if I remember correctly

1 minute ago, KirbyDome89 said:

Current state of Twins baseball; Joe Ryan is left in to take a beating because the bullpen can't cover tonight + whatever is going to happen Sunday. Yeesh. 

Anybody still feel like this team can't add a middling reliever or two and be fine? 

Left in to take a beating… after an off day

If the twins don’t narrow this deficit, it will be the 4th time in their last 8 games they’ve lost by 6 or more runs

Why Moran tonight in this blowout?

It brings me no pleasure in saying this but between this game, the disaster in Milwaukee, and the Twins record against teams with winning records, I'm increasingly convinced that we should maybe be sellers. Who we can sell, I don't really know... but it's starting to feel like we really have 0 pitching, Frankly our pitching across the board is starting to look worse than it did than even last year. 

Johnson went to LSU because they have a better pitching staff than the Twins

6 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Castillo from Reds to Seattle.

One target gone.

Falvine remain asleep at the wheel.

To me, not based on the high price Seattle paid.

3 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Ryan gave up 5 HRs tonight.   Now Baldelli are taking Ryan out.  Ryan should have taken out before this inning.  Baldelli left Ryan way too long. 

Yeah, cuz the bullpen never gives up runs.

Well, Ryan IS throwing strikes!

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Johnson went to LSU because they have a better pitching staff than the Twins

Well they should. They spend more on it.

5 HR's and a complete disintegration. Ryan had nothing and another Twins starter can't make it thru 5 innings. This one is a continuation of the ugliness of the previous game with Milwaukee. Guardians are once again on our doorstep. Sano is a total waste. I can't see him playing past Aug 2nd...unless the injuries pile up and they have to use him. His AB's tonite are vintage Sano when he isn't locked in.

Can't waste anymore time watching the Twins pitchers get knocked around and the hitters continue to fail. Tonite's lineup is pretty weak.

Ouch.

Ryan's ERA just went from 2.89 to 3.77.... that's a bad night.

2 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Johnson went to LSU because they have a better pitching staff than the Twins

LSU's pitching staff will make Johnson look good.

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Well they should. They spend more on it.

Ouch!

 

Methinks something's wrong with Ryan.  Things have been headed downhill for several weeks.  Betting he'll be headed to the IL shortly....

2 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Ryan's ERA just went from 2.89 to 3.77.... that's a bad night.

In his 16th start, too.

I also think that we need to be honest that Wes Johnson leaving mid season is really inexcusable, and I'm not saying that really falls on Wes either... But you need to have a fully committed coaching staff at the beginning of the season, and if you like your guys need to need to pay them to keep them. Again, there may be extenuating circumstances, but losing your pitching coach on a team that already had a house of cards pitching staff is really inexcusable and the organization really needs to take a long hard look at why/how that happened even if it was on relatively good terms. 

1 minute ago, rickybeathard said:

I also think that we need to be honest that Wes Johnson leaving mid season is really inexcusable, and I'm not saying that really falls on Wes either... But you need to have a fully committed coaching staff at the beginning of the season, and if you like your guys need to need to pay them to keep them. Again, there may be extenuating circumstances, but losing your pitching coach on a team that already had a house of cards pitching staff is really inexcusable and the organization really needs to take a long hard look at why/how that happened even if it was on relatively good terms. 

Completely agree.

 

That's bush league and I don't care what the pay jump was.

 

 

Brutal ABs....

6 minutes ago, rickybeathard said:

It brings me no pleasure in saying this but between this game, the disaster in Milwaukee, and the Twins record against teams with winning records, I'm increasingly convinced that we should maybe be sellers. Who we can sell, I don't really know... but it's starting to feel like we really have 0 pitching, Frankly our pitching across the board is starting to look worse than it did than even last year. 

Yes, the picture looks a little bleak in the last few games but the Twins are still in front in the AL Central. This is possibly the best opportunity to add a pitcher, such as Pablo Lopez and/or Frankie Montas. These guys would set up the other fellow pitchers to be more successful.

Buxton and Polanco chased bad throws.  Ks for them.   Snell says thank you, Buxton and Polanco!

We're getting pretty close to Total System Failure territory these days.  Very odd to say when a team still clings to first place, but here we are.

There’s truly no reason to subject yourself to this kind of torture on a beautiful MN night. I’ve spent the last 3 hours in front of a fire and recently saw the score. No reason to watch this team until trades are made. 

4 minutes ago, Minderbinder said:

Methinks something's wrong with Ryan.  Things have been headed downhill for several weeks.  Betting he'll be headed to the IL shortly....

He's a young pitcher who throws his low 90s fastball an inordinate amount of the time. There are going to be nights where that won't work. 

gotta say, Twins are taking some of the ugliest swings this inning. Buxton waved at 3 pitches low and inside. Same with Polonco. And Correa really isn't hitting much anymore. Couple that with the lack of pitching and Twins will very shortly be fighting for the final wild card. At 10-1, Twins are mailing it in. Boy do they look awful tonite.

Just now, tony&rodney said:

Yes, the picture looks a little bleak in the last few games but the Twins are still in front in the AL Central. This is possibly the best opportunity to add a pitcher, such as Pablo Lopez and/or Frankie Montas. These guys would set up the other fellow pitchers to be more successful.

Better get use out of this phrase before probably Monday or so