Sometimes the bar, well, he eats you..

Sickening. Again. Over and over and over. Caleb and Sonny. Really just Caleb. One out, one job to do. One out. Just one.

39 minutes ago, Mill1634 said:

KC walks off the Guardians and DET is going to be Chicago

what a horrible division...worst in baseball

1 minute ago, h2oface said:

Sickening. Again. Over and over and over. Caleb and Sonny. Really just Caleb. One out, one job to do. One out. Just one.

Thielbar's pitch in a 1-2 count against the best hitter on the other team just has to be better, but Sonny Gray suddenly losing any ability to find the strike zone so quickly is what really kicked us in the ass tonight.  Just not a good game other than on the defensive side, and Buxton is in another terrible stretch and probably isn't going to wake up feeling too fresh tomorrow. 

This should easily be a 10-12 game division cushion. But maybe not because we merely appear to be a slightly above average team in a terrible division. If Sonny Gray is our supposed best starter, we’re in big time trouble.

Just now, SanoMustGo said:

what a horrible division...worst in baseball

that isn't new to tonight. It's been true since at least 2019.

Thiebar is terrible.   His ERA is 5.0 +.   He needs to be DFA’ed.   

2 hours ago, Parfigliano said:

He has stunk with a stink reminiscent of that wafting out of the Twins pen.

I hope we have heard the last of the whining about Rogers.  He is NOT the pitcher anyone thinks he is anymore.  He looks great in stretches, but begins to put together really bad streaks.  I said at the start of the year that Duran would outperform Rogers, and half-way through, I was correct.  Move on from Rogers.  We weren't going to sign him and got what we could for him (with a few years to see if that was a good/bad/abysmal return).

Walp.

 

Back to stuff.

 

Thanks all for the company!

3 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

This should easily be a 10-12 game division cushion. But maybe not because we merely appear to be a slightly above average team in a terrible division. If Sonny Gray is our supposed best starter, we’re in big time trouble.

are we above average if you take away Correa?  Thank God we signed him, or this team isn't worth watching.  And I'm afraid Buxton will never be healthy enough to see what he is capable of.  Was that a good signing?

1 minute ago, SanoMustGo said:

are we above average if you take away Correa?

Offensively, we should be. Correa and Arraez. Buxton MIA offensively hurts. No realiable starters, awful pen. Maybe we’re just mediocre.

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

Offensively, we should be. Correa and Arraez. Buxton MIA offensively hurts. No realiable starters, awful pen. Maybe we’re just mediocre.

how are we defensively minus Correa, and how much worse is the pitching without his steady d?

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Offensively, we should be. Correa and Arraez. Buxton MIA offensively hurts. No realiable starters, awful pen. Maybe we’re just mediocre.

Buxton is playing hurt, and he is always hurt...never healthy

 

Angel Hernandez' father was a hamster, and his mother smelled of elderberries.

1 minute ago, SanoMustGo said:

how are we defensively minus Correa, and how much worse is the pitching without his steady d?

Middle of the pack it looks like. Being in such a bad division is the only reason we will make the playoffs. Just not looking good to break that losing streak

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Middle of the pack it looks like. Being in such a bad division is the only reason we will make the playoffs. Just not looking good to break that losing streak

Afraid things won't be so great next season when he opts out.  I am not confident we have the core of a winner.

1 minute ago, SanoMustGo said:

Afraid things won't be so great next season when he opts out.  I am not confident we have the core of a winner.

If Ryan and Gray turn into pumpkins, forget it. The 5th tonight was inexplicable. 4 out of his last 5 starts have been 5 or fewer IP

12 minutes ago, Crackedfungo said:

I hope we have heard the last of the whining about Rogers.  He is NOT the pitcher anyone thinks he is anymore.  He looks great in stretches, but begins to put together really bad streaks.  I said at the start of the year that Duran would outperform Rogers, and half-way through, I was correct.  Move on from Rogers.  We weren't going to sign him and got what we could for him (with a few years to see if that was a good/bad/abysmal return).

No matter how rough Rogers is performing he is still outperforming pagan and paddock.

2 minutes ago, notoriousgod71 said:

No matter how rough Rogers is performing he is still outperforming pagan and paddock.

Rogers pitching right handed would outperform much of our bullpen

20-23 the last 43.  By the all star break I expect that number to be something like 23-28. The pitching matchups for the remainder of the games to the all star break look bad to me. Other than the 23-8 run, this team is otherwise 24-31.  Not what I would consider a good, consistent team.  In fact, they were good for 31 games and not good for 55 games thus far.  So more not good than good.

57 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Thiebar is terrible.   His ERA is 5.0 +.   He needs to be DFA’ed.   

The only problem for us is he's a lefty and has a discernable pulse.  Therefore, he's almost guaranteed a spot in the bullpen.