July 30, 20224 yr 30 minutes ago, jorgenswest said: I think that offer falls way short. The Twins don’t have anyone to match Marte. If they match BTV it will take Larnach, Lewis, Woods-Richardson and Balazovic. That still wouldn’t be enough because though the value is the same the Mariners offer has the better headliner. Replace Balazovic with Rodriguez and I think Castillo is a Twin. Reds don't give up Castillo with only one arm coming back...
July 30, 20224 yr He’s 37, surly he’ll be around and good when that team is competitive again…. But at least they play in a super weak division. Stay the course with zero prospects certainly is the right move.
July 30, 20224 yr 40 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: He’s 37, surly A mere child compared to Chief, and doesn't know the depth of surliness that is possible.
July 30, 20224 yr If that is the cost and according to one source the Yankee's nearly matched it I think the Twins are out of the difference making starters market. We need Lewis to be our shortstop at some point next year and there is only Palacios left as an option for that spot. I just can't see emptying the farm given how many holes this team still has. I don't think Blake Snell is the answer so to me it seems like plan B is get at least two decent relief arms and go from there. Unless the prices are coming down I just don't see how this makes sense for this team at this time either
July 30, 20224 yr 13 minutes ago, Dman said: If that is the cost and according to one source the Yankee's nearly matched it I think the Twins are out of the difference making starters market. We need Lewis to be our shortstop at some point next year and there is only Palacios left as an option for that spot. I just can't see emptying the farm given how many holes this team still has. I don't think Blake Snell is the answer so to me it seems like plan B is get at least two decent relief arms and go from there. Unless the prices are coming down I just don't see how this makes sense for this team at this time either 100% I just don't understand Colorado AT ALL. Re-signing a 37yo closer for when you might compete again? I'm not sure what confuses me more, their wanting to hold on to Bard, or Bard wanting to stick around. I actually thought German Marauez, 27yo with some stuff and some previous good results, might be a perfect under the radar trade option for the Twins. I'd like to see him away from Coors Field, and with a better run organization, and see what he might do. And the Twins have depth to offer the Rockies a decent package that would include a couple interesting arms to make the deal. Now, do you even pick up the phone? Seattle got a little under a year and a half for a very good SP. They are a good team fighting for a WC. Good for them. But I just can't buy in to what they sold, were we to look at a similar package from the Twins. Looks like an "all in" buy that scares me.
August 1, 20224 yr 6 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: A rookie? That's going to cost something legit even if he is 28. Their number seven prospect, a legit AAA starter.
August 1, 20224 yr Author 1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said: A rookie? That's going to cost something legit even if he is 28. Just the Yankees #7 prospect RHP Hayden Wesneski. 24 year old who’s been starting in AAA all season.
August 1, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: One less SP on the free agent market this winter. Not any chance, imo, they sign a legit starter, ever. They've refused every year.
August 1, 20224 yr Does BTV take into account current values? Lewis with a second knee surgery, Larnach with a long injury and recovery, Richardson out for the year with possible long-run inmplications, and Balazovic falling apart?
August 1, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, big dog said: Does BTV take into account current values? Lewis with a second knee surgery, Larnach with a long injury and recovery, Richardson out for the year with possible long-run inmplications, and Balazovic falling apart? SWR started in Wichita yesterday. So, he's not out for the year.
August 1, 20224 yr Just now, James said: SWR started in Wichita yesterday. So, he's not out for the year. Right, I was thinking of Rodriguez. My question still stands, though- I don't see that package as worth anything like what it was worth 2 or 3 months ago.
August 1, 20224 yr 24 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: A rookie? That's going to cost something legit even if he is 28. Their number seven prospect, a legit AAA starter. I was jealous until I saw he was a side-armer. Seems like in today's MLB, 95% of side-arm pitchers come up and light the world on fire until the gimmick wears off at which time they regularly get their clocks cleaned.
August 1, 20224 yr Ehire Adrianza dealt back to the Braves from the Nationals. My guess is he's not disappointed about that.
August 1, 20224 yr And apparently, the Padres are acquiring Josh Hader from the Brewers... Seems like a strange move for Milwaukee, depending on the return. Taylor Rogers is part of the return: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/08/brewers-trade-josh-hader-padres.html
August 1, 20224 yr 6 minutes ago, James said: And apparently, the Padres are acquiring Josh Hader from the Brewers... Seems like a strange move for Milwaukee, depending on the return. Taylor Rogers is part of the return: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/08/brewers-trade-josh-hader-padres.html Wow. Rogers and Lamet seem like damaged goods and the two minor leaguers they got have never been top 100 players on any prospect list.
August 1, 20224 yr Author 8 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: Wow. Rogers and Lamet seem like damaged goods and the two minor leaguers they got have never been top 100 players on any prospect list. Yeah, I don’t see how this makes Milwaukee any better this year.
August 1, 20224 yr 18 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: I was jealous until I saw he was a side-armer. Seems like in today's MLB, 95% of side-arm pitchers come up and light the world on fire until the gimmick wears off at which time they regularly get their clocks cleaned. Agreed. It seems fair given the RP is 28......I'd take that deal on both sides every day.
August 1, 20224 yr Author 18 minutes ago, James said: Not surprised to be honest. I’m only expecting a bullpen arm or 2.
August 1, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: Yeah, I don’t see how this makes Milwaukee any better this year. It is a Rays type move for sure. If they let Rogers get more rest.....it might work out for them even this year.
August 1, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: It is a Rays type move for sure. If they let Rogers get more rest.....it might work out for them even this year. And it was likely to happen in the offseason anyway. He's getting expensive. I was always hoping for the Twins to get their hands on Lamet too. He seems like a guy that may have been mismanaged in SD. I could see him turning the corner in Milwaukee. Won't help SD's well known salary cap issue next year. Maybe Blake Snell will be available. I'd take him if the Pohlad's are willing to eat the salary.
August 1, 20224 yr Author Typical Rays underwhelming move who will probably turn out to be a multi year all star.
August 1, 20224 yr 47 minutes ago, James said: And apparently, the Padres are acquiring Josh Hader from the Brewers... Seems like a strange move for Milwaukee, depending on the return. Taylor Rogers is part of the return: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/08/brewers-trade-josh-hader-padres.html Damn, I would have let San Diego have Pagán for that
August 1, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: Typical Rays underwhelming move who will probably turn out to be a multi year all star. Yeah, but they're messing with the Dodgers. I could see it going either way. Or maybe they both get inducted into the HOF in the same class.
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