1 hour ago, KirbyDome89 said:

0 quality starts in 9 chances. His ERA is north of 8 in his last six starts and it's because he's giving up tons of hard contact. It's been more down than up recently. The relationship always had an expiration date. 

Quality starts are hard to come by with a manager who is notorious for a quick hook regardless of how guys are pitching.

Ryan 4/8
Paddack 0/5
Ober 1/7
Gray 2/7
Winder 2/3
Smeltzer 1/5
Archer 0/11
Gonzalez 0/1
Sands 0/2
The entire Twins pitching staff has a combined 10 quality starts in 58 games.

Besides that, "quality start" isn't even a good metric the way it's designed because a 3ER 6 inning performance is much worse than a 5 inning 2 earned run performance in regard to the likelihood a game is won or lost. Bundy has 4 starts of 5.0+ innings and less than 2 earned runs allowed.

Bundy has 3 truly bad games in 9 starts this year. He has 3 games with an xFIP over 5.00 as well.

I'm still not a huge fan of Bundy, but intentionally cherry picking a (bad) stat for which almost nobody in MLB would deliver good results is disingenuous. 

8 hours ago, Harrison Greeley III said:

Archer's last 2 starts were good after that article on him. Buxton's had 2 good games since the article calling for him to go on the IL.

Let's go!!!

 

 

Sonny Gray to throw a bullpen session on Friday.  May return to the rotation next week.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/twins-sonny-gray-set-to-throw-extended-bullpen/

 

 

Let's hope the timing of this article is like a reverse jinx thing and Bundy throws a perfect game tonight.

I'll let you know if I win the lottery....

I think if Bundy has 4 innings and 2 ER or 5 innings and 3 ER against the Yankees, I would consider his night a success.   

3 hours ago, Brandon said:

I think if Bundy has 4 innings and 2 ER or 5 innings and 3 ER against the Yankees, I would consider his night a success.   

 

Not a success.

That should be it. Ryan can take his slot Tuesday in Seattle. 

 

Could he be effective in the bullpen? 

 

6 hours ago, bean5302 said:

Quality starts are hard to come by with a manager who is notorious for a quick hook regardless of how guys are pitching.

Ryan 4/8
Paddack 0/5
Ober 1/7
Gray 2/7
Winder 2/3
Smeltzer 1/5
Archer 0/11
Gonzalez 0/1
Sands 0/2
The entire Twins pitching staff has a combined 10 quality starts in 58 games.

Besides that, "quality start" isn't even a good metric the way it's designed because a 3ER 6 inning performance is much worse than a 5 inning 2 earned run performance in regard to the likelihood a game is won or lost. Bundy has 4 starts of 5.0+ innings and less than 2 earned runs allowed.

Bundy has 3 truly bad games in 9 starts this year. He has 3 games with an xFIP over 5.00 as well.

I'm still not a huge fan of Bundy, but intentionally cherry picking a (bad) stat for which almost nobody in MLB would deliver good results is disingenuous. 

Is it? Is giving the Twins bullpen an extra inning of work "much worse," than 6 innings of 3 runs or less from your SP? 

The runs he has given up his last 6 (now 7) starts? The number of barrels he's catching or his hard hit percentage you seemed to gloss over? 3/4 of the 5 IP with fewer than 2 ER starts came in his first three games, which conveniently sidesteps my point about him being terrible lately, but yeah, I'm the one cherry picking....

8 hours ago, Hheimer said:

Could he be effective in the bullpen? 

 

I considered that when they signed him. They basically gave him Colome's 2021 allocation in the 2022 budget. But at this point I just don't know. In theory, when you transition to the pen you start throwing harder and narrow your repertoire down to 2, maybe 3 pitches. There's usually a heavy reliance on one off-speed pitch to pair off that (harder) fastball. Bundy's issue is that all his pitches are sub-par. So what becomes the focal point pitch? 

An eerily identical situation to last year. Struggling pitcher, I’m sure the FO and manager are keenly aware of this, and no healthy pitcher available to replace him. 

Can Bundy make himself a trade chip (and can Ober and the rest come back).

Bundy and his $5 million are safe. His tenure will last with the Twins as long as there is a place for him. If the rotation fills and he is the odd man out, would he pitch in the bullpen?

Do the Twins just let him walk?

Got until the end of July to make a hard decision.

2 minutes ago, Rosterman said:

Can Bundy make himself a trade chip (and can Ober and the rest come back).

Bundy and his $5 million are safe. His tenure will last with the Twins as long as there is a place for him. If the rotation fills and he is the odd man out, would he pitch in the bullpen?

Do the Twins just let him walk?

Got until the end of July to make a hard decision.

I’d say odds are very low he’s a trade chip in July but anything is possible. No one ever thought the Cardinals would give up a serviceable reliever in John Gant for JA Happ last year. 

41 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

I’d say odds are very low he’s a trade chip in July but anything is possible. No one ever thought the Cardinals would give up a serviceable reliever in John Gant for JA Happ last year. 

And we still have Evan Sisk, who is pushing for a mid-season promotion to St. Paul.

58 minutes ago, Rosterman said:

And we still have Evan Sisk, who is pushing for a mid-season promotion to St. Paul.

I don't know what's taking them so long, TBH.  He's 25 years old, no reason to wait.  I realize they have a lot of arms at AAA to sort through, but you don't let mature prospects get blocked while you do that.

Bundy needs some run support ?‍♂️

I'm shocked at the last two games. He's a legit number five, maybe four. He's already given them more this year than I thought he would. Good for him!