30 minutes ago, wsnydes said:

The same can be said about a 5-man rotation as well though.  There are only so many starting pitchers that will even give you the opportunity to get more than 5 innings of quality pitching on a routine basis.  And that's ignoring a pitch count.  That's part of the problem.

To be fair, many starters aren’t even given the chance. Managers are terrified of that third time around the order. Any baserunners from the fifth inning on give managers panic attacks for most of their starters. I wonder how many starters have the mentality of “I just need to go 5”?

7 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

To be fair, many starters aren’t even given the chance. Managers are terrified of that third time around the order. Any baserunners from the fifth inning on give managers panic attacks for most of their starters. I wonder how many starters have the mentality of “I just need to go 5”?

Agreed, and pitching philosophy these days doesn't lend to it either.  All of the max effort style and lack of actually learning the art of pitching simply doesn't make going 5+ regularly realistic for the majority of guys.  And that creates the need for the bullpen going 4+ innings a night.  Which isn't sustainable for most teams either.

It's a very circular problem.  It's hardly even realistic to have a top tier rotation OR a top tier bullpen for all but a handful of teams, let alone both.

You guys are so funny. Thanks. I feel better now. Sometimes you just have to laugh.

And to vent when the baseball gods urinate on your head.

How about the "we had to play a day game after a night game and we were tired" bit?

I always thought that bringing in Correa at $35mil/year while the rest of the roster is "slightly" below that would be an overall detriment to the team as a whole. Time for the $35mil man to lead the way. BTW the entire Pirates payroll is $39mil. That is kind of the state of pro sports in general where some players make as much as an entire team. Not good.