4 hours ago, Otto von Ballpark said:

Wasn't that a racy crime drama on USA Network in the 1990s?

That was Silk Stalkings. . I think the protagonists called each other Sam after Sam Snead. Sorry that I can't make a baseball connection

4 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Do we really think the FO thinks differently? Those two were 8/9/10 on the depth chart to start the year......(actually, I think you are saying this, just making sure).

I don't think the FO really thinks differently. I was more speaking to the "Twins Fan Universe", including many here, who seem to have unrealistic expectations for what Jax's future looks like in a Twins uniform.

If he's all we got, sure let's run 'em out there to get lit up once a week. But hearing all of these excuses ("Gee whiz Jax is good but he got jobbed by the ump") is like telling yourself that Fido went to live on a farm when instead he actually got the needle after he bit the social worker's finger off. Telling ourselves comforting lies about non-competitive pitchers is just kicking the can down the road.

The Twins starting pitching makes me want to slit my wrists.  Falvey/Levine should be fcking ashamed of themselves.

1 hour ago, Omardog said:

The Twins starting pitching makes me want to slit my wrists.  Falvey/Levine should be fcking ashamed of themselves.

We'll link you up with the Twins Crisis Hotline.

Mr. Falvey and Mr. Levine have probably come to terms with who they are as human beings.

10 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

So, after Jax pitches well for 5 straight starts, you should pull him because his stats for the year are bad, but if he keeps pitching well then maybe he should get more chances? 

Look, Griffin Jax is probably a 5th starter at best who has pretty fine margins of error for success in MLB. He doesn't have tons of velocity or particularly filthy stuff that can bail him out of a mistake. he lives and dies on his command and get strikes at the edges of the plate. When he misses, professional hitters will crush it, and we saw that last night. he also had the worst possible umpire for his type of pitching: one who was brutally inconsistent and made a number of obviously bad calls. (When Dick Bremer is calling it out, you know things are ugly out there) For a guy like Jax, i think it can be tough to know when you should pull him on a night like this. How do you guess when the mistake is gonna happen? How much of the bad 5th is because jax had no idea what was going to be called a strike any longer?

cave's steal attempt looked pretty bad, but the Boston catcher has not been good at throwing guys out this year. If he goes on an off-speed pitch he's in there, but I'm still not entirely sure why he's running in that situation.

I am glad he has you for a fan - I want more - Jax might make the BP, but he is not who I am looking for in my ideal next rotation. 

12 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

My thoughts are if he says he good to pitch, then they let him until it is obvious that he is injured, because otherwise they look like they are holding him back for financial reasons, and he is getting close to some real money (millions of dollars real)  Just my opinion.

It is curious though that he didn't start for a week, missing his normal turn by 3-4 days...