August 18, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said: Talk about cherry picking! If Larnach had a single year like that people here would be enraptured about he is the greatest. Here is Young's entire career with the Twins, Larnach has shown NOTHING even close or hinted at it. Standard Batting Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards 2006 20 TBD AL 30 131 126 16 40 9 1 3 10 2 2 1 24 .317 .336 .476 .812 108 60 0 3 0 1 0 9/8 2007 21 TBD AL 162 681 645 65 186 38 0 13 93 10 3 26 127 .288 .316 .408 .723 91 263 23 3 0 7 2 *98/D RoY-2 2008 22 MIN AL 152 623 575 80 167 28 4 10 69 14 5 35 105 .290 .336 .405 .741 100 233 19 7 1 5 7 *7/H 2009 23 MIN AL 108 416 395 50 112 16 2 12 60 2 5 12 92 .284 .308 .425 .733 92 168 17 4 0 5 1 7/DH 2010 24 MIN AL 153 613 570 77 170 46 1 21 112 5 4 28 81 .298 .333 .493 .826 124 281 16 6 0 9 5 *7/HD MVP-10 2011 25 TOT AL 124 503 473 54 127 21 1 12 64 1 0 23 85 .268 .302 .393 .695 90 186 19 2 0 5 2 *7/DH 2011 25 MIN AL 84 325 305 26 81 16 0 4 32 1 0 18 55 .266 .305 .357 .662 82 109 12 0 0 2 2 7/DH 2011 25 DET AL 40 178 168 28 46 5 1 8 32 0 0 5 30 .274 .298 .458 .756 103 77 7 2 0 3 0 7 1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said: Talk about cherry picking!
August 18, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, RpR said: If Larnach had a single year like that people here would be enraptured about he is the greatest. Here is Young's entire career with the Twins, Larnach has shown NOTHING even close or hinted at it.
August 18, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, RpR said: If Larnach had a single year like that people here would be enraptured about he is the greatest. Here is Young's entire career with the Twins, Larnach has shown NOTHING even close or hinted at it. Standard Batting Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards 2006 20 TBD AL 30 131 126 16 40 9 1 3 10 2 2 1 24 .317 .336 .476 .812 108 60 0 3 0 1 0 9/8 2007 21 TBD AL 162 681 645 65 186 38 0 13 93 10 3 26 127 .288 .316 .408 .723 91 263 23 3 0 7 2 *98/D RoY-2 2008 22 MIN AL 152 623 575 80 167 28 4 10 69 14 5 35 105 .290 .336 .405 .741 100 233 19 7 1 5 7 *7/H 2009 23 MIN AL 108 416 395 50 112 16 2 12 60 2 5 12 92 .284 .308 .425 .733 92 168 17 4 0 5 1 7/DH 2010 24 MIN AL 153 613 570 77 170 46 1 21 112 5 4 28 81 .298 .333 .493 .826 124 281 16 6 0 9 5 *7/HD MVP-10 2011 25 TOT AL 124 503 473 54 127 21 1 12 64 1 0 23 85 .268 .302 .393 .695 90 186 19 2 0 5 2 *7/DH 2011 25 MIN AL 84 325 305 26 81 16 0 4 32 1 0 18 55 .266 .305 .357 .662 82 109 12 0 0 2 2 7/DH 2011 25 DET AL 40 178 168 28 46 5 1 8 32 0 0 5 30 .274 .298 .458 .756 103 77 7 2 0 3 0 7 Trevor has 90 wrc+ right now. Better than Young's second year, and tied for another year....
August 18, 20215 yr At age 24 Young had 81 strike-outs in 153 games, the most he ever had was 127 in 162 games. Larnach had 104 strike-outs in 79 games. Those numbers speak for them selves; Young's problem was his attitude, not his skills.
August 18, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, RpR said: At age 24 Young had 81 strike-outs in 153 games, the most he ever had was 127 in 162 games. Larnach had 104 strike-outs in 79 games. Those numbers speak for them selves; Young's problem was his attitude, not his skills. More cherry picking.....I literally posted that yes, Larnach hads shown he can hit as well as Young just above, in a stat that looks at everything, not one outcome. Average, power, everything.
August 18, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: More cherry picking.....I literally posted that yes, Larnach hads shown he can hit as well as Young just above, in a stat that looks at everything, not one outcome. Average, power, everything. I look at actual results , not some pie-in-sky numbers that are based on a mathematical formula that has never played a game. How rookies made the big show before bookie numbers replaced actual results.
August 18, 20215 yr We were talking about Larnach's probable outcomes as a player. I chose Delmon Young as a 50% likelihood comp because Young was defensively limited in the outfield most of his career, along with pedestrian OBP and power numbers leading to a league average-ish bat and because Twins fans are familiar with Delmon. Delmon had a couple nice years in MLB, but was mostly just a veteran guy who filled a corner outfielder roster space cheaply for 6-7 years as a starter. I think that's what Larnach turns into 50% of the time. I also postulated Cuddyer is like a 97% Larnach. Likely near Trevor's absolute ceiling which is a 2-3 WAR corner outfielder with a respectable 10 year career as a starter. This debate on whether or not Larnach's peripherals and triple slashes, etc have or are going to match 100%, 94.324% or 78% is kind of pointless.
August 18, 20215 yr Besides being suspended for throwing a bat an ump did Delmon ever miss an entire year because of COVID? Delmon was a God awful outfielder too. And strikeout rates this year are not comparable to 10 years ago. Delmon was a horrendous player.
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