Eloy out 5-6 months

[MMMordabito]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/03/eloy-jimenez-torn-pectoral-muscle-five-six-months-white-sox.html

 

Wishing the best on recovery.

 

(Don't feel bad for the White Sox though)

 

I had to copy this from the MLBTR comments:

 

"Eloy, Eloy, Lama Sabachthani"

[woolywoolhouse]

Don't want the White Sox to overtake the Twins this year (or any season) but not like this. Best of luck in recovery for Jimenez. 

[Otto von Ballpark]

This could be huge. Fangraphs only projected the White Sox as 1 win ahead of the Twins before this injury, and Jimenez was worth 3.2 WAR himself.

 

Their backup outfielders on the roster right now (Engel and Garcia) both project at exactly replacement level, as does non-roster outfielder Nick Williams.

[Otto von Ballpark]

I wonder if the White Sox will make a move for Mike Tauchman from the Yankees?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/03/yankees-trade-rumors-mike-tauchman-jay-bruce-derek-dietrich.html

 

There's also still Yasiel Puig and, less controversially, Josh Reddick available on the FA market.

[Dman]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 6:37 PM, spycake said:

I wonder if the White Sox will make a move for Mike Tauchman from the Yankees?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/03/yankees-trade-rumors-mike-tauchman-jay-bruce-derek-dietrich.html

 

There's also still Yasiel Puig and, less controversially, Josh Reddick available on the FA market.

 

They haven't done anything half way so I have to believe they are in on Tauchman.  Yankee's just got lucky.

[MMMordabito]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 6:42 PM, Dman said:

They haven't done anything half way so I have to believe they are in on Tauchman.  Yankee's just got lucky.

 

Who do I root for to get screwed in this deal? 

[Dman]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 6:48 PM, MMMordabito said:

Who do I root for to get screwed in this deal? 

 

 

That is a very good question.  Thanks for making me laugh out loud!  Maybe we can't lose???? 

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 6:42 PM, Dman said:

They haven't done anything half way so I have to believe they are in on Tauchman.  Yankee's just got lucky.

Well, not signing a DH or 4th outfielder felt a little "half way" for the White Sox.

 

If the Yankees decide to keep Tauchman, then I guess the White Sox could pick up Jay Bruce or Derek Dietrich from them instead.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Bonus tough break for the White Sox: their 4th outfielder Adam Engel, who projects at replacement level but showed surprising power in small samples last year and this spring, was already expected to miss the beginning of the season due to a hamstring strain.

[blindeke]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 6:37 PM, spycake said:

 

There's also still Yasiel Puig and, less controversially, Josh Reddick available on the FA market.

 

Puig + Tony La Russa would be MAGIC!

[Dman]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 7:01 PM, spycake said:

Bonus tough break for the White Sox: their 4th outfielder Adam Engel, who projects at replacement level but showed surprising power in small samples last year and this spring, was already expected to miss the beginning of the season due to a hamstring strain.

 

 

They will do something grandiose, they have the room financially and they want to take the division this year.  I suspect they will come up with something big.

[Otto von Ballpark]

MLBTR also mentions the out-of-options Aristides Aquino of the Reds as a potential target.

 

Plus unsigned free agent Yoenis Cespedes.

[Cap'n Piranha]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 6:48 PM, MMMordabito said:

Who do I root for to get screwed in this deal? 

 

[Cap'n Piranha]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 7:23 PM, spycake said:

MLBTR also mentions the out-of-options Aristides Aquino of the Reds as a potential target.

 

Plus unsigned free agent Yoenis Cespedes.

 

 

If the Sox want to waste resources on Aquino, go for it.  20% soft contact, 28% k rate, bad defensively, and turns 27 next month.  Don't let him hit fly balls, and he's a total disaster.

[Old Twins Cap]

Doesn't win a Rhodes Scholarship for jumping above the wall on a ball that was not particularly close and then hanging from it like a side of beef for several seconds in the early innings of a blowout Spring Training game.

 

But, that's why you play the games, right?

[Giles Ferrell]

I tore a pectoral muscle just watching the replay. 

[jkcarew]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 6:57 PM, spycake said:

Well, not signing a DH or 4th outfielder felt a little "half way" for the White Sox.

I think they look at DH like the Twins look at LF (at least before the loss of Jimenez)...

 

Plenty of options on any given day, with help on the way from major prospects. In this case for Chicago, they have 23 year-old former 3rd overall pick Andrew Vaughn to add to the mix. It’s likely a matter of when, not if, he’ll be brought up (although, it will require a roster move).

[big dog]

Agreed, I want to see Puig and LaRussa together. Make it happen.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

  On 3/25/2021 at 10:39 PM, jkcarew said:

I think they look at DH like the Twins look at LF (at least before the loss of Jimenez)...

 

Plenty of options on any given day, with help on the way from major prospects. In this case for Chicago, they have 23 year-old former 3rd overall pick Andrew Vaughn to add to the mix. It’s likely a matter of when, not if, he’ll be brought up (although, it will require a roster move).

The White Sox bench looked really bad, even before the Jimenez injury. I don't think they really had "plenty of options on any given day" at DH -- if Vaughn didn't make the team and produce right away, they were almost certain to have a replacement level or worse player in their lineup every single day, even at full health.

 

The Twins, on the other hand -- I don't know that all of our LF options will be great, but between Cave (2.8 fWAR in 660 PA), Rooker, and even Arraez, I'm pretty confident we can put together an above-replacement group, even before Kirilloff enters the picture.

[Mike Sixel]

Bummer. I hate injuries

[Trov]

Reading the quotes from the front office guy for Sox, he was basically calling Eloy and idiot for trying to make play in ST game.  He said, "well at least it happened trying to make a play, sure it was ST game but he was trying to make a play."  Not exact quote but close.  I would feel the same way if Buck hurt himself in ST trying to make highlight play.  I get it that players want to win all games, but sometimes you need to make a business decision when games are meaningless. 

[ashbury]

It's easy to second guess the decision to jump, given the knowledge that the injury occurred. But when I watched the video, it didn't jump out at me that the attempt was off the charts or anything. He got hung up on the fence unexpectedly.

 

I wonder if the team trainers will be working on upper-body strength for everyone at camp. "Soldier! See that rope? Climb it!"

 

I can see that I wasn't the only one thinking "could have been Buxton."

[Mike Sixel]

 

  On 3/26/2021 at 2:09 PM, Trov said:

Reading the quotes from the front office guy for Sox, he was basically calling Eloy and idiot for trying to make play in ST game.  He said, "well at least it happened trying to make a play, sure it was ST game but he was trying to make a play."  Not exact quote but close.  I would feel the same way if Buck hurt himself in ST trying to make highlight play.  I get it that players want to win all games, but sometimes you need to make a business decision when games are meaningless. 

 

silly to blame a player for getting hurt for doing their job......players get hurt playing sports. way too often.

[big dog]

I think the problem is his lack of skill as an outfielder rather than making bad choices. He made a really awkward leap at a wall against the Twins last year on a ball he really had no chance to catch and had to be removed from the game. He just misjudged the ball and thought he had a shot. Can't blame a guy for trying (though at least that was a real game). You can definitely wish he had a better sense of when to jump and when to stay on the ground, though.