This blog has a mighty fine point to speculate on given our current state. However, I couldn't help but think this the whole time:

 

You know your offseason was a failure when.......

I'd take him for a million and hope he has a good year as he could be traded for a decent prospect in July.

You know your offseason was a failure when.....

 

I'm talking about signing Matt Capps

$1M is NOT reasonable. If anyone had offered him a $1M major league contract he would have signed it in a heartbeat. He has not been effective in more than 1 year and there are plenty of younger options with potential upside available for the major league minimum. There are plenty of Capps-like players in AAA that can be had for a minor league deal and an invite.

 

Respectfully I have to disagree. The league minimum is a whopping $500,000, not exactly chump change. You can either pay an unproven arm that amount, or double it for a guy like Capps. Capps would bring experience, not something to be dismissed. Now, if you were making the point that we should be getting our young arms more major league innings at the expense of a more seasoned veteran presence, then I would probably agree with that. But all else being equal, paying $500,000 for a no name AAA pitcher or $1 mil for Capps is as easy a choice as it gets. Capps gives you cheap experience and potential upside. Granted you have to be sure completely sure Capps is over his injury problems.

 

And don't get me wrong, I'm not in love with this guy. But you could write down the name of any pitcher who has had Capps' past success and it would likely be the correct call to give him a 1 mil/1 contract. It just isn't that much money in MLB terms and the bargain potential is too great. If he washes out then send him packing, no big loss.

I'd take a healthy Capps at $1 mil over Burnett any day. Burnett has an option available too, send him to AAA, bring him back if/when Capps craps or gets traded.

I thought this site had a anti Capps system?

oh me bad, why resign Capps? if we have a roster spot (we do , no need to give butrea a spot on the 40 man roster) then why not claim tony abreu?

If capps was a lefty by all means sign him , but i think we have plenty of canidants from the right side to fill out the pen.

You had me at "lurking".

 

Pressly, Wood and Roenicke have to be depressed. Not only is the likes of Swarzack's below-replacement, -0.2 WAR blocking them, now they are being haunted by the prospect of a wounded, flatballing, overweight "lurker" taking their spot (Capps 2-year WAR is -0.4).

You can view the page at Twins Daily - Calling on Capps?

 

And I foolishly got sucked into this thread thinking the Twins were calling on Carter Capps.

 

I find it hard to fathom that the Twins FO haven't deleted Matt Capps' number from their speed dial.

I'd be OK with Capps if Gardy weren't the manager. I'm afraid Perkins would have to look over his shoulder after 1-2 bad outings. The Punto of the bullpen.

The Twins have discussed a plan to limit Kyle Gibson to between 130 and 140 innings during the 2013 season as he works his way back from Tommy John surgery.

 

The 25-year-old right-hander says that he'll do whatever the Twins ask of him, but that his goal is to get to the big leagues as soon as possible. Twins GM Terry Ryan indicated that they may utilize a plan similar to how the Braves used Kris Medlen last season, where he began the year in the bullpen, and then transitioned to the rotation after the all-star break.

 

Source: 1500ESPN.com

Please no. He is the Nick Punto of relievers. Occasionally brilliant. Frequently horrible. Mostly mediocre. And a favorite of one Ronald Clyde Gardenhire.

I'd take him for a million and hope he has a good year as he could be traded for a decent prospect in July.

 

This worked really good in 2012.

This worked really good in 2012.

 

You mean jumping the gun on signing a mediocre pitcher early in free agency only to have the contract given to them end up being a ridiculous overpay?

 

2012 Capps = 2013 Correia

 

 

*sadface*

 

 

(I know that's not what you're talking about, but I felt like making that comparison anyway)

Edited January 27, 201313 yr by snepp

You mean jumping the gun on signing a mediocre pitcher early in free agency only to have the contract given to them end up being a ridiculous overpay?

 

2012 Capps = 2013 Correia

 

 

*sadface*

 

 

(I know that's not what you're talking about, but I felt like making that comparison anyway)

 

Like that, but I'd raise you:

 

2012 Capps = 2013 Correia = 2011 Pavano.

1. If he hasn't been signed yet, he is highly unlikely to have any trade value at any time.

 

2. The Twins have no room on the 40-man roster. If they sign Joe Saunders (to whom they have offered a contract), they will have to remove someone from the 40 man and risk losing him. I'm OK with doing it for Saunders. But I have zero interest in losing a decent young player for an aging and injury prone mediocre reliever.

1. If he hasn't been signed yet, he is highly unlikely to have any trade value at any time.

 

2. The Twins have no room on the 40-man roster. If they sign Joe Saunders (to whom they have offered a contract), they will have to remove someone from the 40 man and risk losing him. I'm OK with doing it for Saunders. But I have zero interest in losing a decent young player for an aging and injury prone mediocre reliever.

 

In a perfect world it would be just that easy to jettison Correia.

In a perfect world it would be just that easy to jettison Correia.

 

And Butera, but every team needs five catchers on their 40-man.

And Butera, but every team needs five catchers on their 40-man.

 

Yeah, but the ball comes out of Drewsy's hand really well when throwing down to second. So, you know.

I think part of the Twins plan going forward is to start shedding most of the below average players that have been on the team the last few seasons. Capps at 1M is okay but they should be looking at players outside the org.

I am willing to boo him again if he is signed.

I'd do it simply for the fact that we'll get to see the "Fat Capps" word filter in many future posts should it occur.

Well...looks like the Indians got him first. Maybe the Twins hitters will get their chance to tee-off on him after all.Indians Sign Matt Capps: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

I find it odd that this guy didn't get a major league contract somewhere.

I find it odd that this guy didn't get a major league contract somewhere.

 

His agent forgot to hand out the "proven closer" pamphlets?

His agent forgot to hand out the "proven closer" pamphlets?

 

A reliever who can keep his WHIP around 1.2 isn't a minor leaguer.

But you could write down the name of any pitcher who has had Capps' past success and it would likely be the correct call to give him a 1 mil/1 contract. It just isn't that much money in MLB terms and the bargain potential is too great. If he washes out then send him packing, no big loss.

 

It is this kind of thinking that gets GMs fired. Cleveland just signed Capps to a "minor league deal with a major league invite" as I predicted. Lose the boss' money on stupid deals (no matter how large or small) will get you fired. [see Smith, Bill].

Well...looks like the Indians got him first. Maybe the Twins hitters will get their chance to tee-off on him after all.Indians Sign Matt Capps: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

 

Twins need hitter first. I can see it now...Floriman ripping a wicked 4 hopper to 2B...

Twins need hitter first. I can see it now...Floriman ripping a wicked 4 hopper to 2B...

 

......ending the inning with the bases loaded....

It is this kind of thinking that gets GMs fired. Cleveland just signed Capps to a "minor league deal with a major league invite" as I predicted. Lose the boss' money on stupid deals (no matter how large or small) will get you fired. [see Smith, Bill].

 

How many one-milllion one-year deals would it take to get a GM fired? Twenty-five?

How many one-milllion one-year deals would it take to get a GM fired? Twenty-five?

If Ryan could fill out the MLB roster with 25 in a single year, he may get nominated for executive of the year. (By the Pohlads' accountants, that is.)