Front Page: Buzzwords Will Ignite the Twins Front Office

[rv78]

It all comes down to what we've been told verses what they do and they are 2 different things.

1.Re-signing your own players is not adding.

2.Having opponents, especially in your division, (White Sox), ADD more quality players than you do is going backward. 

3.The reason for Target Field was to be competitive in the Free Agent market due to the increase in revenue. If we haven't reached the point yet where we can compete for top Free Agents, we never will. Saying we were in the running or wasn't quite enough or they didn't want to come here only means 1 thing, we failed. 

4.Not signing Free Agents means you only have 1 option left to get what you need and that is trading. When you trade it costs other players, usually prospects that you are counting on for your future.

Which would you do?

1.Keep loads of cash now and trade away your future for an Ace

or

2.Spend cash now for a Free Agent Ace, and keep your future intact.  

Guess we know what they have decided.

[Mr. Brooks]

It all comes down to what we've been told verses what they do and they are 2 different things.

1.Re-signing your own players is not adding.

2.Having opponents, especially in your division, (White Sox), ADD more quality players than you do is going backward.

3.The reason for Target Field was to be competitive in the Free Agent market due to the increase in revenue. If we haven't reached the point yet where we can compete for top Free Agents, we never will. Saying we were in the running or wasn't quite enough or they didn't want to come here only means 1 thing, we failed.

4.Not signing Free Agents means you only have 1 option left to get what you need and that is trading. When you trade it costs other players, usually prospects that you are counting on for your future.

Which would you do?

1.Keep loads of cash now and trade away your future for an Ace

or

2.Spend cash now for a Free Agent Ace, and keep your future intact.

Guess we know what they have decided.

I'm as disappointed as anyone in the offseason so far, but there were 2 aces available in free agency, and it wasn't realistic to expect the Twins to be in on either of them.

[Linus]

“We were in on....”

[Rosterman]

Impact line = "The Future Is Ours!"

 

Falvey and Levine were hired before the season began, stuck with management and roster pretty much in place, and the need to go forward with a plan. They put together a five year plan.

 

I do feel they wanted their own manager, but stuck with Molitor, who then won and the Twins shined and they had to playthe winning season card for season ticket success.

 

It took them to the 2018 off-season to begin to put their final pieces in place, overhauling the minor league system, which is almost complete, in terms of staffing. Making decisions of the 100 inherited prospects.

 

2019 was a surprise success, too. Weak division, perhaps? But Cleveland was in the hunt in the end and almost pushed thru. The swinging bats and run production, as well as a solid bullpen, put the Twins out front.

 

Now they HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS on the core - Berrios, Buxton, Sano, Rosario. If not in the plans, all four could probably be at their best trade value right now.

 

Once those decisions are in place, they can look at the depth of the organization and decided where names like Gordon, Mirilloff, Larnach, Javier and more fit into longer term plans.

 

Is there a frustration? Yes. They came into this season with upwards of $30 million in cash on top of a winning record that should excite ballpark hounds for the 2020 season. You could say that previous avings and the marketplace could push that amount to nearly $50 million. Combine that amount with the fact that $40 million will also be coming off the books after the 2020 season, well the financials are there to make a splash.

 

Why did they not make a splash. Somehow Texas and Toronto both remade their starting rotations. Are they betetr than the Twins. Can I be mad that the Twins were bridesmaids (as were pothers) in the top five pitching market. I can't be mad when long-term contracts are on the line. I would rather see them tie up their own, young talent for such things than aging arms or bats.

 

Do they know what they are doing? They have to. That is their job. They NEED to put a team on the field to stimulate not only season ticket sales, but also fill the seats longter for the season, get good ratings on radio and television, create ad revenue.

 

I'm waiting to see what the front office does do. Yes, the have to define what is needed. We, as fan, see the need for one top-fight starter...better than Kyle Gibson (and I say Gibson circa 2018). One more bulklpen arm would be nice, preferably a closer unless one thinks Rogers or May is the future - but then we need another lefty in the pen not named Thielbar. 

 

But it all boils down to where Rosario plays in the scheme of things. Is Sano an investment towards first base or the designated hitter longterm. Is Buxton worthwhile for more than a season, quietly repalced by any number of prospects (Lewis, Kirilloff) come 2021. Do you give Berrios $100 million now instead of $200 million in a couple of seasons, and do you see him playing towards potential when he ahs cash in hand? 

 

Cleveland is still in the hunt. Chicago isp uting together a pretty solid team and staying in budget. Detroit is filling holes but still has weaknesses. It is ahrd to believe that someone paid a billion for the Royals. 

 

It all starts with starters. Berrios is a stud, but... Odorizzi gives you five innings. Pineda doesn't show up for work for a couple of months. Dobnak is new kid on the block and hungry. Thorpe has all the talent in the world but can he go a full season and give you innings, keep you in the game. Still down a aprtial arm. And there has to be someone out there better than everyone on the staff NOT named Berrios for the adding, especially when you have upwards of $30 million in payroll to play with for a year or three.

[Battle ur tail off]

 

 

Now they HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS on the core - Berrios, Buxton, Sano, Rosario. If not in the plans, all four could probably be at their best trade value right now.

 

Once those decisions are in place, they can look at the depth of the organization and decided where names like Gordon, Mirilloff, Larnach, Javier and more fit into longer term plans.

 

 

 

If they trade any of those guys off the club, I'm pretty sure pitchforks will be out and in full force. 

 

We've been waiting for years and years and years for those guys. Been told forever to wait until they get here then we will compete. To trade them now when they are actually good and producing would be the largest slap in the face this Twins franchise has ever given their fans. I for one, would never go to a Twins game again. 

 

Also, look how long it took those guys you speak of to actually be solid MLB producers? Do we really think this next wave of prospects are going to come up and produce immediately? Certainly it will take most of them 2-3 seasons to reach their potential, if in fact, they aren't busts. 

 

I do however agree with you that this season or next, decisions will need to be made on these guys. 

 

 

 

 

[David HK]

Good thing buzz words will ignite this front office.

 

Obviously, obtaining quality starting pitching doesn't.

[Number3]

At least start counting wins and losses before complaining about off season performance. Nothing like having a great off season. Just ask the Washington Redskins.

[USAFChief]

At least start counting wins and losses before complaining about off season performance. Nothing like having a great off season. Just ask the Washington Redskins.

The Redskins didn't add any pitching either, IIRC.