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Game Thread: Twins @ Indians 6/5/19 6:10pm CST

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Like i mentioned earlier. Its been forever since they made a deal to bolster the team.

 

In 2017 they were in the race and added Jaime Garcia. In 2015 they traded for Jepsen, and this board lost it's mind because they traded their #20-ish prospect for him.

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Duffy is the worst tease. Every time you think maybe he figured something out...no. 

Uh, don't put words in my mouth.  :D

 

Like i mentioned earlier. Its been forever since they made a deal to bolster the team.

 

Just like it's been forever since they've been better than a maybe-in-contention-for-the-wild-card-if-everyone-else-blows-it team with a front office not dominated by Terry Ryan.

 

So.

Problem with finding bullpen upgrades is that there isn't a lot of good relievers out there on non contending teams this year.

Chei-Wei Hu, who many were enraged we gave up to bolster the bullpen in 2015 currently has a 6.50 ERA in AAA for Tampa. 

With all due respect, which other world class reliever is out there freely available?

If I made a list of pitchers who didn’t pitch for nine months who were bad and you made a list of pitchers who didn’t pitch for nine months and were good, I’d bet my list would be significantly longer.

 

I just don’t understand why there is such assumption that Kimbrel will be any good let alone world class.

Lol! In honor of Mr Green the full quote “If you want to crown them, then crown their asses. They are who we thought they were. And we let them off the hook.”

Nope. No apparent need for Kimbrel here. No need to strike hard.

 

“I would say we’re laying in wait right now. The best moves are made not when you’re trying to open the window to contend but when the window is wide open. We’re very eagerly waiting for this window to be opened, and when it is, we plan on striking.”

Thad Levine

 

In 2017 they were in the race and added Jaime Garcia. In 2015 they traded for Jepsen, and this board lost it's mind because they traded their #20-ish prospect for him.

That was Terry Ryan's FO that traded for Jepsen, but yes, the board did lose its mind over losing a middling prospect (I was apart of that too. Shame on me!) 

 

TR got ousted during the horrendous 2016 season.

Chei-Wei Hu, who many were enraged we gave up to bolster the bullpen in 2015 currently has a 6.50 ERA in AAA for Tampa.

 

Who?

I wonder what it's like to actually have a shutdown closer.

 

If I made a list of pitchers who didn’t pitch for nine months who were bad and you made a list of pitchers who didn’t pitch for nine months and were good, I’d bet my list would be significantly longer.

I just don’t understand why there is such assumption that Kimbrel will be any good let alone world class.

That doesn't answer the question.

La maquina is gonna need to go 7 tomorrow to right the ship

How does that help if no one can get through the 8th and 9th?

I wonder what it's like to actually have a shutdown closer.

We had one, but he got frightened in Yankee stadium many years ago

 

If I made a list of pitchers who didn’t pitch for nine months who were bad and you made a list of pitchers who didn’t pitch for nine months and were good, I’d bet my list would be significantly longer.

I just don’t understand why there is such assumption that Kimbrel will be any good let alone world class.

 

I mean, to be fair, Kimbrel's about the best pitcher ever to go nine months without pitching due to non-injury reasons.

 

Stop. Many were enraged?

 

I don't know if "enraged" is right, but I was among those who thought that Hu was going to be better than he is. And it's those kinds of lessons that suggest to me that players like Alcala, Duran, Thorpe, Badoo, Gonsalves, Rooker, Celestino, Enlow, etc. are all saleable and not particularly missable. Put a couple of them together and you've got yourself a reliever who's better than at least half of what we've got now.

Chei-Wei Hu, who many were enraged we gave up to bolster the bullpen in 2015 currently has a 6.50 ERA in AAA for Tampa.

 

No I was part of that debate. gotta fact check you. It was the idea that posters were valuing Hu so much less than than Kohl Stewart, Tyler Jay, Trevor May, or whoever the other TINSTAAPS were during that debate.

 

Carry on. :)

If the Twins bullpen was a boat, I'd say it was taking on water at an alarming rate and is in danger of going under.

Have fun storming the castle!

Even Miracle Max can’t help us.

 

We had one, but he got frightened in Yankee stadium many years ago

Those were the days. Now they soil themselves in Cleveland.

That doesn't answer the question.

Well then my answer is there aren’t any world class relievers available, but there will almost certainly be many better than Kimbrel will be this year, who I expect to be rusty and resentful.

Probably the most disappointing loss of the season. Not sharp in the field, pitching was awful. Things need to change in the bullpen.

Embarrassing.  The Indians were giving this one away, and we wouldn't let them.  We'll make the playoffs I think, but we are not a match for the Yankees or Astros right now.  Not even close.

Even Miracle Max can’t help us.

Indeed. Grounded out to short to end the game.

 

Alas...

 

Thanks for company.

 

Embarrassing.  The Indians were giving this one away, and we wouldn't let them.  We'll make the playoffs I think, but we are not a match for the Yankees or Astros right now.  Not even close.

Yup, this one is disappointing in the extreme. As close to a gimme as you get in the big leagues.

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