I don't understand. The league fines them the difference if they don't spend their entire pool? I've never heard that before.

Think of the draft pools as potential spending. If they don’t sign a guy, they no longer have the potential to spend the amount slotted for that pick.

The Twins entire draft pool is $9.9 million. That's the best $9.9 million they'll spend all year. That'll primarily be spread that across their first 10 round's worth of picks and it will buy them control of those players for years upon years upon years.

 

All those players and all those years of team control for much less than the total amounts I'm sure either Kimbrel or Keuchel will sign for.

I'm ok with this pick b/c most of the guys I wanted were gone by then. Obviously, questions about HS players hit tool can be pretty damning but they had questions about Adell and the Angels are thrilled that they picked him.

 

Twins have always liked toolsy HS guys and they've had some success with them so let's hope this one works out. Excited about our next few picks.

Think of the draft pools as potential spending. If they don’t sign a guy, they no longer have the potential to spend the amount slotted for that pick.

Yes, I understand that.

A couple of posters are claiming that a team is not allowed to spend draft pick savings on a free agent.

Edited June 4, 20197 yr by Mr. Brooks

Exciting and intriguing pick! Totally trust Falvine/Scouting staff...overlooked by major media and it seems most other MLB teams. Cool!

Question on pronunciation? Cavako or Cahvahco?

Go Twins 2019!!!!!

I don't know. Call Falvey

Earlier you said they can't spend that savings on other things. Now you say you don't know.

Why would I call Falvey about a rule that I'm quite sure doesn't exist?

 

Earlier you said they can't spend that savings on other things. Now you say you don't know.
Why would I call Falvey about a rule that I'm quite sure doesn't exist?

 

There is no savings. They are allowed to spend their own money up to their limit. It is an upper boundary. Drafted player bonuses, as Tom F said, are an incredibly solid investment. There is no incentive for teams to not spend money on prospects.

Yes, I understand that.

A couple of posters are claiming that a team is not allowed to spend draft pick savings on a free agent.

I think the confusion is coming by conflating draft spending with free agent spending. Teams can spend up to X, but failing to sign a guy means they can spend up to X-Y. What they do with Y is, to my knowledge, more or less unregulated with the exception that they can’t use it on their other draft picks.

There is no savings. They are allowed to spend their own money up to their limit. It is an upper boundary. Drafted player bonuses, as Tom F said, are an incredibly solid investment. There is no incentive for teams to not spend money on prospects.

Yes, I know. That isn't my argument. None of that is.

 

Someone suggested that a team could spend less than their max and use the rest in free agency.

Two posters are claiming that is illegal.

 

I agree with you that no team would do that, but they are certainly allowed to if they wanted to.

I think the confusion is coming by conflating draft spending with free agent spending. Teams can spend up to X, but failing to sign a guy means they can spend up to X-Y. What they do with Y is, to my knowledge, more or less unregulated with the exception that they can’t use it on their other draft picks.

Again, I understand that completely. A couple of other posters are suggesting that money can't be spent on anything.

Also, nobody suggested not signing a pick. The suggestion was signing everyone under slot.

Again, I understand that completely. A couple of other posters are suggesting that money can't be spent on anything.

Also, nobody suggested not signing a pick. The suggestion was signing everyone under slot.

I’m trying to answer a question that you (apparently?) asked using hypotheticals. They could sign everyone under slot if they wanted to. The slots exist to limit what draft picks can make. You mentioned your “argument” in a different post. I’m not sure who you’re arguing with, because it isn’t me.

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Twins now have some history will pop-up players. Larnich flashed his last year in college.

 

Again, I understand that completely. A couple of other posters are suggesting that money can't be spent on anything.
Also, nobody suggested not signing a pick. The suggestion was signing everyone under slot.

 

Seemed easier to use your quote. 

Someone post some facts on this guy.

 

I've seen 6'0, 6'1", 6'2" and his weight ranges from 175 to 190 lbs. 

 

I know he's a pop-up guy, but is he growing with every posting?

 

California prep player of the year. What he hit? How many SBs? What he do to win the prep award in our largest, most baseball friendly state?

 

Someone post some facts on this guy.

 

I've seen 6'0, 6'1", 6'2" and his weight ranges from 175 to 190 lbs. 

 

I know he's a pop-up guy, but is he growing with every posting?

 

California prep player of the year. What he hit? How many SBs? What he do to win the prep award in our largest, most baseball friendly state?

 

He probably is between 6'0" and 6'2" and 175-190. Pretty common for measurements, especially of HS kids to vary as they can 1. change and 2. aren't being updated regularly and 3. can be exaggerated a bit.

 

As far as stats, amazing what a simple google search will do:

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/keoni-cavaco/A83HM940EeW-8KA2nzwbTA/default.htm

 

I'd love to revisit this in five years.

Seemed easier to use your quote.

If you spend less than your allotted pool, intentionally, that is "savings".

 

Again, I don't personally think anyone would do that, I was just responding to a couple posters who suggested it's not allowed. As far as I know, there is no such rule, as it would be not just difficult, but 100% impossible to enforce.

Fangraphs report:

 

TLDR
The best popup guy in the class, Cavaco went from on the radar to a likely day one pick with the progress he's made in February and early March.
Full Report
A growth spurt bouyed Cavaco's tools and draft stock, as he's this year's most prominent pop-up high school prospect. He may have the best frame in the entire draft but has already grown into considerable power, which he gets to in games despite an awkwardly-timed stride. At times clumsy on defense, Cavaco may still be growing into his new body. He may end up at second or third base (where he played as an amateur) or get a try in center field if his hands and actions don't improve. He's one of the draft's higher risk, higher reward prospects.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2019-mlb-draft?sort=-1,1&type=0&team=

 

Fangraphs report:

 

TLDR
The best popup guy in the class, Cavaco went from on the radar to a likely day one pick with the progress he's made in February and early March.
Full Report
A growth spurt bouyed Cavaco's tools and draft stock, as he's this year's most prominent pop-up high school prospect. He may have the best frame in the entire draft but has already grown into considerable power, which he gets to in games despite an awkwardly-timed stride. At times clumsy on defense, Cavaco may still be growing into his new body. He may end up at second or third base (where he played as an amateur) or get a try in center field if his hands and actions don't improve. He's one of the draft's higher risk, higher reward prospects.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2019-mlb-draft?sort=-1,1&type=0&team=

 

I hope his middle initial isn't....... "J(ay)". 

John
3:45 Is Keoni Cavaco an under slot pick? Seems like he got picked higher than he was on your and your competitors boards.
Keith Law
3:45 Don't think so - he had other suitors in the teens.

I'm pretty psyched about this guy. Defintely high risk that he'll swing and miss too much, like Adam Brett Walker, but hey, go big or go home.

Interesting article on him on the Athletic. He didn’t attend any of the big showcase events, Perfect Game, Area Code games, so he was largely unknown. The Twins started going to all of his games this spring, 35 in all. They were really focused on him (which should be obvious that they took him earlier than he was projected.)

 

We’ll never know, but wondering how many guys they would have taken AHEAD of Cavaco had they fallen?

Is this draft considered weak for first rounders?

 

Do teams still get a comp pick if they don’t sign their first rounder?

 

Would it be to any team’s advantage to have drafted a college bound high schooler and not sign them?

Is this draft considered weak for first rounders?

 

Do teams still get a comp pick if they don’t sign their first rounder?

 

Would it be to any team’s advantage to have drafted a college bound high schooler and not sign them?

No. Every expert says no, don't do that. You lose a year of development. Next year, maybe the guys you want get hurt. No. Take a player you believe in.