A person's reach should exceed their grasp, and so should a baseball team.

 

Shoot for the stars.

 

Generally, reaching is not a good thing in a draft. Hard to argue that either of these players were BPA.

 

Maybe Wallner and Rooker can combine for 400k's for the 2021 Red Wings team.  

 

Probably pushing 500k's.

Its the better pitching they will face in the next years (and their adjustment capability) that worries me - contact - not their power, which is plus and plus/plus.  I want a young pitcher to balance out the vacuum in the Rookie and Low A levels - high school pitcher for me better be in Round 2, and I hope they have saved some $ to make it happen.

Minor-league season keeps getting uglier, just read Kirilloff is back on the IL.  Not sure for what.  

Canterino, Rice #1 RH pitcher with a great slider.

Edited June 4, 20197 yr by AlwaysinModeration

Rice pitchers scare me. They get abused and end up with TJ and/or shoulder surgery.

Sounds like he's known for his control and a solid curveball, decent fastball

What Baseball America has to say about Matt Canterino RHP:

 

 

 

Canterino is one of the funkier pitchers in this year’s draft class. As he gathers on the rubber, he raises his arm in a pump, in-sync with his lead leg, brings his arms back to his body, pauses, and then explodes to the plate. While it looks unconventional and seems very segmented, Canterino’s arm is on time with his body and he repeats it well. Not to mention, it’s been very effective. Canterino has been Rice’s ace almost since the day he arrived on campus. He’s been durable, consistent and hard to hit, limiting opponents to a sub-.200 batting average for his three-year career as an Owl. It’s that consistency and solid stuff that appeals to scouts, who also like his solid, 6-foot-3, 222-pound frame. In a draft class without many potential front-of-the-rotation options, Canterino is a potential late first-round pick as a solid back-of-the-rotation arm. His low-90s fastball will bump up to 95 mph at times, and his slider has gotten better and better, to the point where it not earns above-average grades. Even when his slider isn’t at its best, he will still show four average pitches thanks to a decent curveball and changeup. He’s steadily improved his control and now shows the potential for above-average control. Canterino is one of the better high-floor options among the college arms in this year’s draft class.

Day 1: bombas and ks.

 

I like it.

Big fan of this pick. Disagree that the delivery is a negative unless there are injury concerns. I have yet to see an explanation or read about why there should be.

 

Baseball America rated him as the best control in the country pre-draft. He repeats his mechanics and can control the ball. His delivery makes it hard to read over his hand and his over the top delivery creates a really nice downward plane and will lead to a lot of ground ball outs and the downward movement you see on his spike curve as well as some of the movement you see on his fastball.

 

Sure, he’ll refine his delivery like any pitcher but I think the funky delivery is a plus until it’s proven not to be rather than the other way around. The only real argument I’ve seen for changing it is that it seems like something to do because it looks different than prototype, which isn’t actually a reason at all unless that difference in pitching motion is causing control issues through unrepeatablility or injury concerns.

 

I think he’s going to be a starter of the good Odorizzi or Gibson version. Really excited.

 

Here’s a good article I found with a nice profile:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.southsidesox.com/platform/amp/2019/5/7/18236648/matt-canterino-draft-prospects-you-should-know-matt-canterino

 

A couple of quotes from that article:

 

**Canterino also does the little things to help his cause, including having an above-average pickoff move. However, there’s still a concern that he may eventually be a reliever. Why should this be a concern, when he’s get the build, control, athleticism and repertoire to be successful as a starter? Rice does have a history of its pitchers breaking down physically at the professional level. More than that, however, it’s due to his unorthodox, high-effort delivery with a head jerk. It is that delivery, however, that just may give him the deception he needs at the professional level to help supplement good, albeit unsensational, stuff.**

 

**One side note — in Baseball America’s preseason list of loudest tools, Canterino was listed as having the best control. Certainly after looking at his results over the past couple seasons, it’s difficult to refute that analysis.**

Edited June 4, 20197 yr by twins1095

 

Big fan of this pick. Disagree that the delivery is a negative unless there are injury concerns. I have yet to see an explanation or read about why there should be.

Baseball America rated him as the best control in the country pre-draft. He repeats his mechanics and can control the ball. His delivery makes it hard to read over his hand and his over the top delivery creates a really nice downward plane and will lead to a lot of ground ball outs and the downward movement you see on his spike curve as well as some of the movement you see on his fastball.

Sure, he’ll refine his delivery like any pitcher but I think the funky delivery is a plus until it’s proven not to be rather than the other way around. The only real argument I’ve seen for changing it is that it seems like something to do because it looks different than prototype, which isn’t actually a reason at all unless that difference in pitching motion is causing control issues through unrepeatablility or injury concerns.

I think he’s going to be a starter of the good Odorizzi or Gibson version. Really excited.

Here’s a good article I found with a nice profile:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.southsidesox.com/platform/amp/2019/5/7/18236648/matt-canterino-draft-prospects-you-should-know-matt-canterino

A couple of quotes from that article:

**Canterino also does the little things to help his cause, including having an above-average pickoff move. However, there’s still a concern that he may eventually be a reliever. Why should this be a concern, when he’s get the build, control, athleticism and repertoire to be successful as a starter? Rice does have a history of its pitchers breaking down physically at the professional level. More than that, however, it’s due to his unorthodox, high-effort delivery with a head jerk. It is that delivery, however, that just may give him the deception he needs at the professional level to help supplement good, albeit unsensational, stuff.**

**One side note — in Baseball America’s preseason list of loudest tools, Canterino was listed as having the best control. Certainly after looking at his results over the past couple seasons, it’s difficult to refute that analysis.**

Good post. Please keep it up.

Edited June 4, 20197 yr by PseudoSABR

 

Generally, reaching is not a good thing in a draft. Hard to argue that either of these players were BPA.

 

BPA at this point is incredibly subjective as it is. Not like there's a sure fire all star just sitting there falling...

 

A few "reaches" on talent they are pretty sure will make it allows for a lot of HS talent to be taken later over slot. That works really well.

I am confused.  I thought they went under slot last year.