Article: Tracking Reinforcements for the Twins

[segagenesisgenius]

 

Any player who slumps and sulks could make a bad clubhouse worse.  But everything about this clubhouse seems so positive that Sano should be able to relax and play.

 

This is confusing to me.  Are you saying that any player that has a slump is a bad clubhouse influence?  So therefore, someone like Rosario, a notoriously streaky player that is prone to slumping, is a bad clubhouse guy?  I don't quite buy that.

 

Otherwise, I might buy the idea of a sulking player being bad for a clubhouse, but where have you heard reports that Sano sulks?  So far I have heard nothing but positive reports from how Sano has behaved on his second(!) trip to single A in the last 10 months, something which a lot of former all-stars would sulk like crazy over...

[segagenesisgenius]

 

I see no way they [turn Graterol into a twins reliever].  They are still trying to build up his innings.  I think it would be unlikely they would want to use him in bullpen down the stretch.  I think it would take some injuries to other options to go down that path.  

 

I mean, I agree that they are not going to turn Graterol into a reliever in, say, July, but the minor league schedule ends in September.  I could see them bringing up Graterol after his regular seasons ends to give him a cup of coffee and 5 or 7 innings of relief work to see if he could help with a twins playoff run and/or set him up to come up for good in 2020.  This is especially true with the modern adage of flamethrowers always throwing their fastest when they are young (and therein steadily throwing slower and slower as they age), so it makes sense to push the limits to see how fast you can get them up to try to have them throwing their hardest in the majors rather than in AA.

[ashbury]

Any player who slumps and sulks could make a bad clubhouse worse. 

 

This is confusing to me.  Are you saying that any player that has a slump is a bad clubhouse influence?  So therefore, someone like Rosario, a notoriously streaky player that is prone to slumping, is a bad clubhouse guy?  I don't quite buy that..

I think if luke had included the word "then," as in "slumps and then sulks," the intent would have been clearer. At least, that is how I took it on first reading.

[Mike Sixel]

Is anyone else worried that the addition of Sano to the lineup may upset the existing, major league leading chemistry? I am. I really like Gonzales at 3B, even though he is hitting a buck eighty. I'm not privy to what goes on in the clubhouse, but my guess is that Sano can possibly be a distraction.

Less than zero. Seriously

[Mike Sixel]

I am a natural worrier. Maybe I'm bothered by the old adage: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I guess based on the 5 adamant comments implying I should not be worried about this issue, and based on the lack of any comments agreeing that TD readers should be worried about this issue, then we can infer that no one else is worried about the possibility of Sano's insertion into the league leading Twins' lineup having a negative effect. Looks like the vote is 5 to 1 that there is nothing to be concerned about. So I guess that decides this issue. Onward and upward.

That adage is what puts businesses out of business.

[Major League Ready]

I have always interpreted the issues with Sano's to be things that would derail his own development. I never thought he had a negative impact on anyone but himself. Personally, I pray he comes back and delivers on that enormous potential. This line-up would be ridiculous if he can deliver on that enormous potential.

Edited May 10, 2019 by Major League Ready

[MileHighTwinsFan]

I just don't understand the trade Sano for Mad Bum talk or the notion that he will disrupt the clubhouse chemistry.   3B has the worst offensive production on the team and all the preseason talk was how Nelson Cruz would be a great mentor for Sano.  If we didn't have Sano in the system, half of this post would have been looking at possible upgrades at 3B.   

 

I am in the camp that Sano will be a welcome addition to the club .  What is most important is that he will not be expected to carry the team on his shoulders.  He can be a complementary piece to the true offensive leaders on the team - Cruz, Polanco and Rosario.   

 

I for one can't wait to see Miguel back in a Twins uniform.

 

 

[Vanimal46]

Sano's presence isn't going to derail this fast moving locomotive. He could help this offense immensely. If not, the train will keep chugging along without him.

[Darius]

There is never a time when you stop looking for an upgrade. Just because things are rolling now doesn’t mean they will be next week (picture getting swept by the Tigers at home, with the Indians climbing to 1/2 game back by Monday).

 

Go get established players at positions of need right now, if you can for a fair price. Get bullpen help right now instead of hoping guys get healthy and/or improve. Go get another starter to add to the mix instead of hoping that Perez and Odorizzi as Johan Santana and Roger Clemens is here to stay.

 

Nothing major has to be done. I’m on board with leaving the offense alone. But; there is no harm that can be done by adding some quality depth, pitching-wise. We will get burned by this bullpen status quo at some point. Maybe I’ve lived in Minnesota as a sports fan for too long, but I am not taking the playoffs for granted at this point. Too much can go wrong.

[Dave Overlund]

Remember last time the Twins made a splash at the trade deadline? Neither do I.

[Mr. Brooks]

Remember last time the Twins made a splash at the trade deadline? Neither do I.

I do. Shannon Stewart.

[Danchat]

Remember last time the Twins made a splash at the trade deadline? Neither do I.

I’m not sure this applies, as we have yet to see Falvine go through the trade deadline with a legit team. I think they will be willing to make moves, especially with many prospects becoming 40 man eligible this winter. Plus they should have some more payroll to spend.

[James]

 

Remember last time the Twins made a splash at the trade deadline? Neither do I.

 

I do. Shannon Stewart.

I was going to say Matt Capps.

 

I feel dirty typing that.  

[rdehring]

Don't get the concern about Sano coming back.  The core of this team is Polanco, Rosario, Buxton, Kepler and Berrios.  Sano is part of that group and will be welcomed back like a twin brother returning home from the Army.

 

As for the bullpen.  Agree with many above that they need one power arm that will fit into a late inning role and a lefty specialist.  Expect they will wait and see if Romero can develop into the power arm and if Mejia, Moya or Vasquez can settle in and become the lefty.  

 

If the above doesn't happen, they should go out and get one solid reliever.  As long as everyone is throwing names out there, how about talking to Houston about trading for Ryan Pressley?  We got some exciting young talent last July, maybe we could get him for a couple of them. 

[sdangus]

What about Mychal Givens from Baltimore or Rasiel Iglesias from Cincinnati or Keone Kela from Pittsburg?

[Vanimal46]

What about Mychal Givens from Baltimore or Rasiel Iglesias from Cincinnati or Keone Kela from Pittsburg?

Givens and Iglesias have 2.5 years of control. Kela has 1.5 years. Wouldn't mind any of the names you mentioned. The Twins would have to give up quality to acquire them.

[TFRazor]

 

Don't get the concern about Sano coming back.  The core of this team is Polanco, Rosario, Buxton, Kepler and Berrios.  Sano is part of that group and will be welcomed back like a twin brother returning home from the Army.

 

As for the bullpen.  Agree with many above that they need one power arm that will fit into a late inning role and a lefty specialist.  Expect they will wait and see if Romero can develop into the power arm and if Mejia, Moya or Vasquez can settle in and become the lefty.  

 

If the above doesn't happen, they should go out and get one solid reliever.  As long as everyone is throwing names out there, how about talking to Houston about trading for Ryan Pressley?  We got some exciting young talent last July, maybe we could get him for a couple of them. 

That will only happen if houston falls out of contention and I quite honestly don't see that happening

[Twodogs]

Sano

.280

.320

22 Hrs

75 RBI

60 Runs

The rest of the way.

[Mike Sixel]

 

That will only happen if houston falls out of contention and I quite honestly don't see that happening

 

10000000% sure that part was sarcasm.......

[KidBro]

Perhaps this is stating the obvious, I am only interested in acquiring a player(s) that help us advance in October.  So a top of the rotation starter, back end of the bullpen piece.  This division is flawed, likely thru 2020.   No need to say more (and jinx something).  

[FlauerPauer]

 

Guys who rehab quietly and then enter the club with the idea they're going to knock 30 bombs a year don't exactly break up a "good" clubhouse chemistry.

We need to kill the idea that Sano is a bad clubhouse presence.

 

Agreed 100%. I haven't read anything saying that Sano is a bad teammate or a clubhouse problem. From all accounts all the dude wants to do is win and help his team in anyway he can. He's made a bunch of mistakes, but is still a young guy. Sometimes getting rich quick leads to issues. I just hope he comes back and helps this team win a World Series.

[TFRazor]

 

10000000% sure that part was sarcasm.......

you know what that means though? Houston will now inevitably fall out of contention. C'mon man, I'm putting out negative waves here

Edited May 10, 2019 by TFRazor

[FlauerPauer]

 

I do. Shannon Stewart.

 

What a great acquisition. Dude was a stud until plantar facietus took over. Damn you Metrodome!

[bird]

 

I'd trade Kirk Cousins for Stromen, straight up. Do it quick, before anybody notices.

 

 

This is off topic, but if Kirk marries his sister, are they still Cousins?

[ChrisKnutson]

Givens and Doolittle seem like the safest bullpen arms on the trade market to me, but if you wanna add a starter as well, Stroman all the way.

[Cglidds]

Sano will blend perfect into this Latino lineup. Andele andele, let's go!!!

[jimbo92107]

 

Is anyone else worried that the addition of Sano to the lineup may upset the existing, major league leading chemistry? I am. I really like Gonzales at 3B, even though he is hitting a buck eighty. I'm not privy to what goes on in the clubhouse, but my guess is that Sano can possibly be a distraction.

Miguel Sano will be returning to 3rd base the moment he's healthy, be assured of that. What's different this time around is that Sano will be surrounded by a good mix of solid veterans and his own peers entering the prime of their careers. Can you think of a more powerful motivating factor than that? Oh wait, there's more: the Twins have the best record in the league. 

 

The social atmosphere of this club is close to ideal for Sano. Others are leading by example, so he doesn't have to feel he must carry the offense. He can just mash baseballs, without trying to hit a homer every time. That should allow him time to find his swing at the mlb level, and after that he can try to add more power. 

[jimbo92107]

 

This is off topic, but if Kirk marries his sister, are they still Cousins?

I get it! Game of Thrones, y'all!   ;-)

[Major League Ready]

 

Sano
.280
.320
22 Hrs
75 RBI
60 Runs
The rest of the way.

 

How about 30 HRs the rest of the way?  

[mrtwinsfan]

Nate Rowan
@njrowan
Miguel Sanó will join the @RocRedWings on rehab and the plan is for him to play Saturday and Sunday for the Wings. #MNTwins  maybe next week ?