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You've closed the book on his season after a couple of starts? Good lord.

 

I did no such thing. I am talking about the future of the ball club. Whether he is good the rest of the year or not, we know what his tendencies are. Let some other team take the risk on a 32 year old pitcher who has been mediocre most of the time.

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It is a little late posting this.  I was at the game last night with my son.  And had a seat several rows behind the Mets dugout.  Several observations that have not been discussed.  

 

I thought Kepler has 2 very good at bats last night, with only a single to show for it.  First inning, he had a 7 pitch at bat leading off the game (ending in a SO).  This kind of set the tone for the Twins batters.  There were alot of quality at bat against deGrom. The 4th inning he had a similarly good at bat before getting a single.

 

Buxton looks very good.  Except for the last at bat (which was poor in part because he looked like he was trying to hit a HR) he had some quality at bats.

 

Astudillo seems a little slow to the ball at first base.  Two plays in particular.  The ball that glanced off Astudillo's glove and both Schoop and Gibson made a combined great play. And a double down the first base line (I don't remember the innings for either play).  I thought Astudillo should have gotten to both balls.  

 

The fans in NY can be quite ruthless.  After Peter Alonso made and error, some of fans were yelling "See you in Syracuse" (Mets AAA) as he was coming off the field.  He is only hitting 0.385.  There were other comments directed toward Cano and d'Arnaud that I can't write here.  

 

It was bone chilling cold and Citi Field.  I never realized the 50 degrees could feel so cold (and I thought we had dressed properly).  When the game ended at 11:45, there were only about 1000 fans left in the stands.  I thought the ushers were a little too aggressive in preventing fans from moving down during the last couple to innings.  There were so few fans left and it was so cold, I thought it would have been a nice gesture.  

 

 

 

 

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I did no such thing. I am talking about the future of the ball club. Whether he is good the rest of the year or not, we know what his tendencies are. Let some other team take the risk on a 32 year old pitcher who has been mediocre most of the time.

 

except he wasn't mediocre last season. He was almost as good as Berrios, and nearly racked up 200 innings. He also reinvented his approach pretty thoroughly last season, so it changes our information about his track record, and Im sorry, it's absolutely absurd to judge anything about him based on his first 2 starts when it's obvious that he's not fully recovered from the E.Coli. It takes time to rebuild stamina, especially when you drop that much weight in a hurry.

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except he wasn't mediocre last season. He was almost as good as Berrios, and nearly racked up 200 innings. He also reinvented his approach pretty thoroughly last season, so it changes our information about his track record, and Im sorry, it's absolutely absurd to judge anything about him based on his first 2 starts when it's obvious that he's not fully recovered from the E.Coli. It takes time to rebuild stamina, especially when you drop that much weight in a hurry.

You might be right.

But if you are, he should be recovering on a rehab stint in AAA, not in big league games.

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I'm not sure, but this seems kind of petty, or judgmental, of people that have hobbies outside the game.....

 

Not at all, those young men can have at their video games.

 

Seth said "I'm sure you recall", which I assumed was tongue in cheek because I would absolutely not recall considering my total lack of interest in e-sports.

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I don't think teams evaluate players for trades based on how well they did in their last game.
Garver's trade value is exactly the same as it was at this time yesterday.

I wasn't really being serious (the tongue was in the cheek). Just commenting about the post related to trading Castro. Yes, I understand trade values don't go up from one game. 

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It is a little late posting this.  I was at the game last night with my son.  And had a seat several rows behind the Mets dugout.  Several observations that have not been discussed.  

 

I thought Kepler has 2 very good at bats last night, with only a single to show for it.  First inning, he had a 7 pitch at bat leading off the game (ending in a SO).  This kind of set the tone for the Twins batters.  There were alot of quality at bat against deGrom. The 4th inning he had a similarly good at bat before getting a single.

 

Buxton looks very good.  Except for the last at bat (which was poor in part because he looked like he was trying to hit a HR) he had some quality at bats.

 

Astudillo seems a little slow to the ball at first base.  Two plays in particular.  The ball that glanced off Astudillo's glove and both Schoop and Gibson made a combined great play. And a double down the first base line (I don't remember the innings for either play).  I thought Astudillo should have gotten to both balls.  

 

The fans in NY can be quite ruthless.  After Peter Alonso made and error, some of fans were yelling "See you in Syracuse" (Mets AAA) as he was coming off the field.  He is only hitting 0.385.  There were other comments directed toward Cano and d'Arnaud that I can't write here.  

 

It was bone chilling cold and Citi Field.  I never realized the 50 degrees could feel so cold (and I thought we had dressed properly).  When the game ended at 11:45, there were only about 1000 fans left in the stands.  I thought the ushers were a little too aggressive in preventing fans from moving down during the last couple to innings.  There were so few fans left and it was so cold, I thought it would have been a nice gesture.  

Hey, I give you credit:  I chickened out of going because of the cold (it was supposed to be in the high 50s and yet game time was 46 degrees and very damp).  And that was a shame about the ushers.  Glad you saw a win, at least.  

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except he wasn't mediocre last season. He was almost as good as Berrios, and nearly racked up 200 innings. He also reinvented his approach pretty thoroughly last season, so it changes our information about his track record, and Im sorry, it's absolutely absurd to judge anything about him based on his first 2 starts when it's obvious that he's not fully recovered from the E.Coli. It takes time to rebuild stamina, especially when you drop that much weight in a hurry.

 

So the Twins should lose games because Gibson should be on the DL but isn't?

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