Definitely a great candidate for a bounce back year. Low risk, high reward potentially

I like the idea of taking a flier on Holland? He has had great success in the past.

 

Thanks, I appreciate you reading!

Your last sentence asked us who we would like to see the Twins sign or trade for, so any others you passed it on for us to bring up and debate. I think the guys you pointed out are all credible lower tier options. This is a good food for thought article. 

 

None. I feel like the site contrarian, but I say this seriously because our coaches should be able to work with the rookies and minor leaguers we have and coax the stats that these players have. Just adding someone because they have been around does nothing for me. I think we missed our opportunity for the type of reliever we need and it is now better to concentrate on making our own talent perform better.

I agree, you are a contrarian that’s what makes TD great. Respect and differing opinions make for excellent debate.

 

On the starting pitcher side, I agree with you. Perez or whoever they will reasonably get is no better than Mejia and the rest. Just roll with what you got.

 

On the bullpen side, they really needed high impact/leverage. With those potential free agents signed, try to swing a trade or convert Romero.

 

eFair enough, I think the problem is that most of the members here have lost faith in the development process. The Twins minor leagues have developed so few successful relievsers in the past 8 years that we have zero hope for minor league relievers to make an impact on this team. I wish I could agree with you.

If we are to have faith in this FO their major moves (not signing players from the dust bin) is in putting together better coaches and a better system.  The next logical expectation is that those coaches and the system will put our players into a better position to succeed. J T Chagois got a .2 WAR for the dodgers last year. Rosario got a ,3 WAR with the cubs.Nick Burdi had a -.2 WAR with the pirates.  Ryan Pressly had a 2.2 WAR with the Astros.  

 

Maybe the problem is not in the quality of the Twins, but in the perspective of the FO.  It will be interesting to see what Curtiss does.  

 

Here is a Strib article about former Twins - http://www.startribune.com/years-of-using-an-average-of-50-players-have-littered-major-leagues-with-former-twins/498267081/

 

My premise is that it is better to make our current pitchers better than to spend money and time on pitchers who have already established a low performance record.

 

I agree, you are a contrarian that’s what makes TD great. Respect and differing opinions make for excellent debate.

On the starting pitcher side, I agree with you. Perez or whoever they will reasonably get is no better than Mejia and the rest. Just roll with what you got.

On the bullpen side, they really needed high impact/leverage. With those potential free agents signed, try to swing a trade or convert Romero.

I agree, but those arms are already signed and we watched it happen.  The bottom of the barrel is no better than Moya, Mejia, Romero, Littell, DeJong and all the other potential arms we have.  Lets see the new coaches and system put our own players in position to succeed..

I'd add Shawn Kelley to the list

Twins really dropped the ball this offseason as far as relievers go. I thought they needed to go out and add at least one if not two high end guys. 

 

They should have gone out and got the best reliever on the market, whoever they felt that was for sure. Kind of boggles my mind that they are going cheap and trying to covert guys, catch lightning in a bottle types here. 

 

Guess I shouldn't be surprised though, it really isn't much different than Terry Ryan. Cheap, sign guys that aren't any better than what you have, etc etc. 

Brad Boxberger anyone? Don't know a lot about him, to be honest, but MLB listed him as one of 7 FA who could be a steals. Numbers look good.

Of that bunch, I think Brad Brach would make the most sense for the Twins. Nobody else really lights my fire. But please stay away from Bud Norris. Yes, he's become a decent reliever in the past couple or years after some atrocious years as a starter, but he still scares me.

For a few seconds I was excited to read  a tweet from Rhett Bollinger that Cody Allen has signed, until I remembered that Rhett now writes for the Angels, instead of the Twinkies.

has anyone thought of Tony Sipp?

has anyone thought of Tony Sipp?

with the current state of the “rotation” they can’t afford any Loogy’s. All of your relievers will have to be counted on for an inning or more.

 

Another one signed... 1 year $3 million. Too rich for the Twins.

Edited January 24, 20197 yr by Vanimal46

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1088495649736265728?s=19

 

Another one signed... 1 year $3 million. Too rich for the Twins.

That's one possibility. It's also possible they just weren't interested in him.