Mostly from Heyman's twitter.

 

• Profar for Harvey swap being discussed
• Yankees trying to trade for Gerritt Cole but Pirates say they aren't trading him
• Carlos Santana turned down 3/36 from Cleveland to test market
• Seattle will improve pitching, looking at Darvish

If Yankees get Cole, I might scream. 

Profar for Harvey kind of makes sense. Both players desperately need a change of scenery that's for sure.

 

So much for thinking the Yankees are going to sit back waiting for the super FA class of 2019.... I will scream too if Cole ends up on their team. Hold strong, Pittsburgh!

 

3/36 isn't enough for Santana. I predict he's going to get at least $50 MM on the open market. The Twins are a pretty good fit and should certainly look into him. I see him as a clear upgrade over Grossman/Vargas.

Let's keep this thread for the rumors out there, and the other for actual deals made. That way it will (hopefully) keep the overlap to a minimum. 

More from Heyman and others - 

 

1. Orioles are shopping Machado
2. Fernando Rodney met with the Twins
3. Cubs might sign Cobb
4. DBacks might move LHP Corbin
5. Miami will give away Ozuna!

 

Fernando Rodney? Not super inspiring.

 

I've never liked Rodney - he always seemed lucky to me - but he's done it for a long time and he wouldn't be the worst arm in the pen.

I've heard a lot about the twins signing dervish at what point would people think we paid too much.

 

I've heard a lot about the twins signing dervish at what point would people think we paid too much.

If he can master his secret pitch, the whirling dervish, there couldn't be a "too much."

I've never liked Rodney - he always seemed lucky to me - but he's done it for a long time and he wouldn't be the worst arm in the pen.

Concur, on both counts.

 

I just wish he could get his head screwed on straight - either that, or it's his hat.

Fernando Rodney? Not super inspiring.

thats where we shop. Old guys and reclamation projects :-)

https://twitter.com/pbcbreakdown

 

I obviously forgot how to embed Twitter into here.

 

 

Edited December 12, 20178 yr by Loosey

https://twitter.com/pbcbreakdown

 

I obviously forgot how to embed Twitter into here.

Basically the Cole sweepstakes are down to the Twins, Mariners, and the Evil Empire. I would be very happy with Cole but it seems like the prospect haul would be pretty daunting, what are we talking? Gordon, Gonsalves, and Thorpe? Is that too much, right about on, or not enough?

Edited December 12, 20178 yr by twinsfanstreif

Basically the Cole sweepstakes are down to the Twins, Mariners, and the Evil Empire. I would be very happy with Cole but it seems like the prospect haul would be pretty daunting, what are we talking? Gordon, Gonsalves, and Thorpe? Is that too much, right about on, or not enough?

I'd say that's definitely too much.

 

No one knows if this is true, but that same twitter account said this:

https://twitter.com/pbcbreakdown/status/940390540998250497

 

Most people on this forum said they'd do that in a heartbeat so that's what is making us question the legitimacy.

I'd say that's definitely too much.

No one knows if this is true, but that same twitter account said this:https://twitter.com/pbcbreakdown/status/940390540998250497

Most people on this forum said they'd do that in a heartbeat so that's what is making us question the legitimacy.

Oh dang, yea, I way over shot. I would do that trade asap. I like Gordon but I'm fine with our middle infielders currently and we have plenty of prospects in that area. I kind of also see Gordon as a good but not great player long term

 

Basically the Cole sweepstakes are down to the Twins, Mariners, and the Evil Empire. I would be very happy with Cole but it seems like the prospect haul would be pretty daunting, what are we talking? Gordon, Gonsalves, and Thorpe? Is that too much, right about on, or not enough?

I'd say it's A and B - too much to give up, but right on what it would take to get it done.  I'd pass at that price.  I'd think a bit longer about the reported asking price of Nick Gordon, Tyler Jay, and Zach Granite.

The Cole discussion regarding the Twins is ongoing in the Twins forum. Please let's leave it over there and not have a 3rd or 4th thread throughout the site discussing this.

 

Same with the Rodney discussion.

 

While I understand these rumors are often presented along side others, and that's fine, please be mindful that this forum is for non-Twins talk. Yes, it's very difficult (actually impossible) to separate these discussions absolutely, but let's not make these discussions solely Twins or dominantly Twins discussions in the Other MLB forum. If you think this information needs to be 'over there' and it's not already, get it going 'over there' and leave 'here' to (mostly) non-Twins.

The Cole discussion regarding the Twins is ongoing in the Twins forum. Please let's leave it over there and not have a 3rd or 4th thread throughout the site discussing this.

Well this thread is specifically for "off-season rumors" I think Cole discussions qualify for that

 

Well this thread is specifically for "off-season rumors" I think Cole discussions qualify for that

No ... not in the OTHER BASEBALL forum. Yes, I understand how it gets mentioned, but if you want to talk specifically about this in regards to the Twins, please take it to the Twins forum. It would be one thing if you were comparing what others might offer and how the other teams chances are in comparison, I can see that, and yes, that would qualify, but if you are just making it yet another discussion on how the Twins can acquire (or not acquire) certain players, it really needs to be taken to the Twins Talk forum.

 

Edit: And now I've edited the title to reflect this. Again, I understand the mentions, and that's fine, but for full-on Twins discussions, please take them to the Twins Talk forum.

 

Thank you!

Is Machado really going to get traded? mlb.com says there is progress being made, with 5 teams having discussions. Orioles are said to want two pitchers. 

 

This seems like it might actually happen. 

 

Santana and Mejia? (just kidding, but seriously though, what would it take for one year of Manny?)

Machado would be my dream ... but I've always known that one would go into the 'unfulfilled' category.

 

Is Machado really going to get traded? mlb.com says there is progress being made, with 5 teams having discussions. Orioles are said to want two pitchers. 

 

This seems like it might actually happen. 

 

Santana and Mejia? (just kidding, but seriously though, what would it take for one year of Manny?)

Gonsalves and Romero as a starting point. It's interesting. At the end of the day, it's only one year of Manny (plus a future pick when he leaves). Realistically, he might be worth something like 5 WAR. And if you look at other trades where someone expects about 5 WAR in return, something like Romero, Gonsalves and Thorpe (if they want pitchers) + Mejia would be arguably fair. But Machado is such a name that Baltimore should get a major overpay. Or maybe no one meets their price.

Old friend Oswaldo Arcia has signed with a Japanese ball club. Good luck to him. 

 

Yankees say price for Cole is too high so I'm not sure that the Gordon, Jay, Granite rumor is accurate.

 

Twins on Darvish, Seattle might be too.

 

I'd say that's definitely too much.

No one knows if this is true, but that same twitter account said this:
https://twitter.com/pbcbreakdown/status/940390540998250497

Most people on this forum said they'd do that in a heartbeat so that's what is making us question the legitimacy.

 

Wow....i do this in a heartbeat, no questions asked.

 

Old friend Oswaldo Arcia has signed with a Japanese ball club. Good luck to him. 

 

Yankees say price for Cole is too high so I'm not sure that the Gordon, Jay, Granite rumor is accurate.

 

Twins on Darvish, Seattle might be too.

 

I'd be surprised if that's right.  Seems too good to be true.

 

BARF

 

BARF

a team wanting him after the 2016 season was iffy. After the 2017 season when he got worse? Why..?

The Padres and Royals are in a bidding war for Eric Hosmer and it's supposedly up to 7 years at over $20M per?!

 

What am I missing? I guess KC could claim that sentimentality is worth 100M, what's San Diego's excuse? Don't these teams know that average to slightly above average 1B can be bought at Cosco two-for-the-price-of-one at a fraction of that price these days?

I really hope he sticks with the Royals at that price. I'm all for teams in our division doing dumb things.