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Article: Twins Select Royce Lewis First Overall

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Argh. He might be going to college. Potentially wasted pick. :(

I couldn't see a kid passing up a guaranteed $7 million to go to college.  Crazier things have happened though.

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  • PseudoSABR
    PseudoSABR

    It's clear the Twins were not in love with any of the options at the top.  So picking a player they like just as much with less risk (as non-pitcher), and saving money to get two more guys they want a

  • Need to congratulate the guy who predicted this earlier.  I thought he was crazy.     I can see passing on Hunter Greene if you want to take a more advanced college arm, start him in AA at the lowest

  • Mr. Brooks
    Mr. Brooks

    Can we please stop suggesting that people can't have an opinion if they are not a scout?   Personally, I'm going to give the FO the benefit of the doubt- because they are professionals, and have more

 

Bleacher Report says McKay passed on an offer to be the number one overall pick.  Can't stand when players do this without playing a single professional inning.  If it's entitlement why he turned it down, shame on him.  If it's because we wanted him as a pitcher and he wanted to be 1B, then that's different.  I'm assuming he goes to E-Town to start and bringing him to Cedar Rapids by the end of the season.  That would put him two years behind Gordon.  Please tell me this isn't a justification to possibly trading Gordon.

 

Good for McKay. Entitled is the system. The individual, no matter when, has the right to take control of ones career. This is a lot of supposition here.

 

That's not how this works. Whatever they save, they reinvest in later picks. It's essentially trading down four picks to move up from #35 to #15, assuming that Lewis comes with a discount.

 

 

While that may be true, it is also making assumptions that players THE TWINS WANT will slide because of signing issues AND simultaneously that the Twins can sign them even with the extra salary pool.  

 

 

 

Bleacher Report says McKay passed on an offer to be the number one overall pick.  Can't stand when players do this without playing a single professional inning.  If it's entitlement why he turned it down, shame on him.  If it's because we wanted him as a pitcher and he wanted to be 1B, then that's different.  I'm assuming he goes to E-Town to start and bringing him to Cedar Rapids by the end of the season.  That would put him two years behind Gordon.  Please tell me this isn't a justification to possibly trading Gordon.

Why wouldn't he? If the Twins were offering less than he stood to make signing in the 2-7 range it's a smart decision on his part. 

 

Good for McKay. Entitled is the system. The individual, no matter when, has the right to take control of ones career. This is a lot of supposition here.

 

Did you catch McKay's reaction after he was drafted by the Rays as a first baseman?   It was very telling ;)

What if those players aren't there? What if Lewis doesn't sign under slot? If those players are so awesome, why not pick one of them for under slot money?

 

How did that yesterday down work in the role five draft?

Good for McKay. Entitled is the system. The individual, no matter when, has the right to take control of ones career. This is a lot of supposition here.

Exactly.

 

Believe or not, the Twins have a pretty bad track record of developing players, especially power hitters.

 

He just made a decision that he felt put him in the best position to be succesful.

 

The Twins have big plans for 35 and 37. Sent LEN3's tweet to one in the draft room and he text back.

 

"Boom. Just wait."

 

They've got something lined up and I have some pretty high hopes. 

 

Baz is my first choice. DL Hall and Carlson are 2A and 2B. I'd love Jennings, Rogers, and others as well.

 

Let's not judge the Lewis pick til all the dust settles.

I think it is Tanner Houck.

 

Did you catch McKay's reaction after he was drafted by the Rays as a first baseman?   It was very telling ;)

 

Yeah, fella seemed pretty disappointed. 

 

 

If they wanted to save money they should have selected Bukauskas.

Instead we got bupkis?

 

I couldn't see a kid passing up a guaranteed $7 million to go to college.  Crazier things have happened though.

 

He has already committed to going to college on a scholarship -- UC Irvine. Look at their W-L record the past 10+ years.

 

If a player doesn't like the team that drafted them, they simply go to college and get drafted again later. This happens every year.

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While that may be true, it is also making assumptions that players THE TWINS WANT will slide because of signing issues AND simultaneously that the Twins can sign them even with the extra salary pool.  

And it also assumes that the Twins get a savings from Mr. Scott Boros.

I don't mind it. If he turns out 2/3 as good as Correa—who was mocked around 7th overall for the most part—it's an excellent pick.

I am not bummed out by the selection of Lewis. I too wanted a pitcher for a long time. But, if the Twins do get two high performance high school pitchers at 35 and 38 then it could be a stellar draft for the Twins. They could also nab a College starter in round 3.

 

Last year the Twins selected a lot of high school guys, adding Lewis and at least 1 high school starter at either 35 or 38 means that the Twins have a very deep talent pool at the lower minors and they still have some good prospects in the upper levels. Some might be traded this season if the Twins stay in the playoff picture.

 

I don't mind it. If he turns out 2/3 as good as Correa—who was mocked around 7th overall for the most part—it's an excellent pick.

Not many guys become a Carlos Correa.

 

Not many guys become a Carlos Correa.

 

Very true. He's turned out a lot better than expected.

Love it.

 

You don't make that pick unless you have a plan.

 

I love plans.

 

Very true. He's turned out a lot better than expected.

depends on who you talk to in regards to expectations.   lot of people thought very highly of him.

 

Did you catch McKay's reaction after he was drafted by the Rays as a first baseman?   It was very telling ;)

 

Seems there was some confusion, and Tampa wanted him announced as a two way player. McKay was noticeably surprized.

 

Love it.

You don't make that pick unless you have a plan.

I love plans.

OK, couldn't get myself to LIKE it, but I did chuckle.

To all the "Boras" comments.... he always wants to maximize his client's earnings, which is exactly what agreeing to a below slot deal at 1-1 could do. Of all the guys to make deals with at 1-1, Boras would be at the top of my list.

IMO you never, ever, ever "draft for need" in the first round of the MLB draft. It's not the NFL or NBA. Nobody knows what their "need" will be in 3-5 years with enough certainty to do that. You take the best player on your board, based on your projections of his talent.

 

I would have preferred Greene, but I see no reason not to give the FO the benefit of the doubt at this point. It's their first draft. 

 

I also don't think this FO is so averse to dealing with Boras, and vice versa. If I were Boras, I'd be looking for an opportunity to establish a positive relationship with Falvine. Just broadens the realistic potential markets for all of his clients going forward.

 

 

depends on who you talk to in regards to expectations.   lot of people thought very highly of him.

 

Also true. I'm referring to the general consensus at the time, whatever that means.

And it also assumes that the Twins get a savings from Mr. Scott Boros.

Boras doesn't have much leverage. He's getting much more than he would at a lower pick....and you'll never go higher than #1. What are this kid's chances of going #1 again in the future? Probably not great.

 

Boras wants his cash too. He'll do what he can't to prevent this kid from going to college and collecting nothing.

 

But, I wouldn't be overly disappointed to if he doesn't sign, and the Twins keep their pick next year. This kid won't be around for 5-6 years anyway. What's one year?

If not for Dusty Baker destroying Mark Prior & Kerry Wood's arms/careers the Cube would have won a World Series building around those 2 aces.

Joe Mauer was a good pick but if the Twins drafted Mark Prior they would have not rushed him & never would have let him throw so much.

 

I guess ability to play SS, good speed, and questionable hit tool are in such high demand maybe they should just solve their pitching problems by trading Ehire Adrianza for some young arms?  

 

Obviously the Twins disagree with your scouting assessment, as do all the other clubs, who had Lewis high on their boards even if not #1 overall. So sure, you know better than every MLB front office.

It's like the Twins don't realize that the Twins have a 21 year old SS Nick Gordon (our top prospect I might add) hitting .311 at AA. Add in Palacios as his viable running mate in the middle infield and with a dire need for starting pitching in the coming years, we instead draft a player at a position we don't need who is likely 4-5 years out??

 

Not to say this guy won't pan out, because obviously none of us can truly project what he'll develop into, but you're essentially playing around with a #1 overall pick to save a mil or so in an effort to hope a big time name slips to #35/37. We all have an opinion, and my opinion is that this is a poor move. Than again, my opinion is worth nothing. We'll see how this all plays out in the coming years. I sure hope I'm wrong!

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Bleacher Report says McKay passed on an offer to be the number one overall pick.  Can't stand when players do this without playing a single professional inning.  If it's entitlement why he turned it down, shame on him.  If it's because we wanted him as a pitcher and he wanted to be 1B, then that's different.  I'm assuming he goes to E-Town to start and bringing him to Cedar Rapids by the end of the season.  That would put him two years behind Gordon.  Please tell me this isn't a justification to possibly trading Gordon.

It just means Dozier will be gone when his contract ends and he leaves as a free agent.

 

Bleacher Report says McKay passed on an offer to be the number one overall pick.  Can't stand when players do this without playing a single professional inning.  If it's entitlement why he turned it down, shame on him.  If it's because we wanted him as a pitcher and he wanted to be 1B, then that's different.  I'm assuming he goes to E-Town to start and bringing him to Cedar Rapids by the end of the season.  That would put him two years behind Gordon.  Please tell me this isn't a justification to possibly trading Gordon.

Hmm.  Why did the name Travis Lee pop into my mind just then?

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