And Berrios to the rotation.

Would be nice if the Twins ever decided to put their best players on the field. 

I've been ready since early March when reports of him throwing high 80s came out.

Hughes not exactly for fooling anyone. However, Berrios does hav control issues

I think Hughes gets at least four starts

 

Hughes not exactly for fooling anyone. However, Berrios does hav control issues

And Hughes doesn't.

 

There's the rub.

Great OF defense might be able to save him for a while.

High quality start. Whatever.

But...but... he went 6 innings... it had to be a good start! Didn't you hear Blyleven?

Berrios will find himself in the rotation eventually. No need to pull Hughes this early, he's coming off major injuries and showed some decent flashes today.

I missed most of the game. I assume he looked a lot worse than his numbers?

I like guys that throw hard out of the bullpen, or have a dirty off-speed pitch. 

 

Hughes isn't that. 

 

I missed most of the game. I assume he looked a lot worse than his numbers?

yes, quite a few loud outs

Blistering hot take on today's performance. But, yes, Hughes is bound to give up scores of runs... eventually.

 

I missed most of the game. I assume he looked a lot worse than his numbers?

Loud outs, but his only run came off of two grounders that just found holes.

This season is this season and he will be given a lot of rope (Hughes)... not enough to hang himself. All 4 games the Twins have played have been cold. Baseball was not meant to be played in these conditions.

 

Having played the game in these ****ty conditions, it definitely has an effect. The ball doesn't carry, the pitcher is stiff. It's damn hard to get loose when it is in the 40-50 degree range.

 

Fundamentally well played baseball does not begin until it is 70 degrees plus.

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I missed today's game... what MPH were Hughes' fastballs? Did they look good?

 

I missed most of the game. I assume he looked a lot worse than his numbers?

Did not watch the game either as I was dealing with a system failure.

Bad first inning. Needed a couple of good plays by outfielders. I don't know if that qualifies as worse than numbers. k-bb% was league average as well as Hughes average. Not walking anyone makes up for the lack of strikeouts (Anderson is smiling somewhere).  He did not give up a HR ball. The question should be did Hughes pitch his normal game of a few strikeouts, a few base runners and a lot of fans expecting the worse at any minute.

 

And Berrios to the rotation.

Not a huge Hughes fan even though he pitched great tonight. As for Berrios, he needs to earn the promotion once again. I would be worried more about Mejia.

 

I missed today's game... what MPH were Hughes' fastballs? Did they look good?

I don't think I saw any in the 80's so that's good. After the first inning, the outs weren't hit all that hard. Frazier hit a curveball to the fence that Rosario caught, but I thought he looked pretty sharp overall.

 

 

This season is this season and he will be given a lot of rope (Hughes)... not enough to hang himself. All 4 games the Twins have played have been cold. Baseball was not meant to be played in these conditions.

 

Having played the game in these ****ty conditions, it definitely has an effect. The ball doesn't carry, the pitcher is stiff. It's damn hard to get loose when it is in the 40-50 degree range.

 

Fundamentally well played baseball does not begin until it is 70 degrees plus.

The carry of a 50 degree baseball and a 70 degree baseball is 5 feet. 5 more feet for 90 degrees.  Technical fabric in clothes, 50 should not be a problem in any sport for muscles tightening   All old wives tales

 

I thought Hughes looked pretty bad. Topped out at 91 from what I remember. He did throw one beautiful back door cutter for a called K that was vintage 2014, but I only saw the one.

 

The thing is though...and why veterans hang around MLB...he limited the damage. He didn't fall behind a lot of guys, didn't walk many, didn't have to throw a fastball every time he needed a strike. Didn't lose his cool or focus. Right now, that's the difference in him and Berrios.

I'd rather see Berrios in the pen first. Let him get some MLB experience in some lower leverage limited inning situations first.  I'd rather not see him come up to start and give up 5 runs 6 walks and 3 k's in 3 innings.

 

I don't think I saw any in the 80's so that's good. After the first inning, the outs weren't hit all that hard. Frazier hit a curveball to the fence that Rosario caught, but I thought he looked pretty sharp overall.

 

i thought the opposite actually. his location was off all night and he got away with it. things likely would have been different against a not white sox line up

I thought Hughes pitched fine. It was 45 degrees and getting the ball down was hard for both pitchers. A couple seeing eye grounders in the first accounted for the run. He loosened up a bit after the first. Warmer weather will help all the pitchers. I can't believe people are complaining already, but that's people.

 

I thought Hughes pitched fine. It was 45 degrees and getting the ball down was hard for both pitchers. A couple seeing eye grounders in the first accounted for the run. He loosened up a bit after the first. Warmer weather will help all the pitchers. I can't believe people are complaining already, but that's people.

Well, if you note the time stamp of when this thread was started, it was probably after that first inning. The poster obviously made his comment then didn't watch the rest of the game to retract it some.

 

I call that ... premature something or other.

 

That said, though ... Hughes should be watched very carefully and if he comes out of April, even into mid-May, poorly ... the hook shouldn't hesitate. But this was not the game for hook-calling, imo.

 

And I liked Chief's assessment above. He wins the thread.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that Paul gives Phil another start.

 

The carry of a 50 degree baseball and a 70 degree baseball is 5 feet. 5 more feet for 90 degrees.  Technical fabric in clothes, 50 should not be a problem in any sport for muscles tightening   All old wives tales

 

10 extra feet of carry in that first inning and we start the top of the second down 8-0

I missed today's game... what MPH were Hughes' fastballs? Did they look good?

89-90 with the occasional 91 in there. Chief said it well... The stuff isn't there but he did a good job limiting the damage.

Right! Two hits over his last 5 innings is very limiting.