Trump isn't going to survive this.

No chance.

Beginning of the end.

 

Hopefully Pence can go down in the scandal as well. I don't like Paul Ryan very much, but compared to those two? He looks pretty good.

Quite honestly, they all scare me. And they have basically the same agenda. But Ryan could actually accomplish it as he knows what he's doing. But not causing WWIII would be a plus.

Random thought: one reason liberals lose is we can't all agree.

 

There. That's a bit more accurate.

 

Quite honestly, they all scare me. And they have basically the same agenda. But Ryan could actually accomplish it as he knows what he's doing. But not causing WWIII would be a plus.

Pence is also competent. I vehemently disagree with his politics, but he's competent.

 

There. That's a bit more accurate.

I disagree.

 

Pence is also competent. I vehemently disagree with his politics, but he's competent.

 

Yeah, but he's likely already tied too tightly to Trump's crazy agenda to shake loose, so him being competent and pushing the same schemes might be even more frightening.

 

Yeah, but he's likely already tied too tightly to Trump's crazy agenda to shake loose, so him being competent and pushing the same schemes might be even more frightening.

I suspect Pence views Trump has a conduit to getting what he wants, nothing more. I think the two disagree on as much as they agree.

 

I think Pence would clean house if he had the opportunity. I've always viewed him as a guy who wants to push his far-right agenda but mostly do it through typical Washington channels, not outright lunacy.

 

You can argue whether that's better or worse but it's certainly different.

 

For example, I don't think Pence is on board with Trump's blatant (and not-so-subtley racist) nationalism. I don't get the feeling Pence is scared of brown people so much as he wants everyone to play by Christ's rules (as interpreted by Mike Pence).

Right, Pence may be awful but he's not scary in the way some of these other guys are.  You still know he'll put the country first, even as he pushes his agenda.  Most of us would never vote for him, but i think all of us would given a binary choice of Pence or Trump.  

 

That's more of an indictment of Trump and his lackeys than an endorsement of Pence.

If you're not a straight white male christian, I don't think Pence is on your team.

 

If you're not a straight white male christian, I don't think Pence is on your team.

 

to be clear, a certain kind of Christian....

 

to be clear, a certain kind of Christian....

 

I am not sure Pence would have cared for Jesus.  I am pretty if Trump met and talked with him he would declare that Jesus is a Fake Christian.  I think Trump and Herod might have gotten along.

 

It sounds like he might have really had a bit of a melt down today, even for him.  He really does not deal with adversity or criticism well.  

Edited February 16, 20179 yr by D. Hocking

 

I am not sure Pence would have cared for Jesus.  I am pretty if Trump met and talked with him he would declare that Jesus is a Fake Christian.  I think Trump and Herod might have gotten along.

 

It sounds like he might have really had a bit of a melt down today, even for him.  He really does not deal with adversity or criticism well.  

 

If today's Christians met Jesus, they would call him a Muslim terrorist.

That press conference...wow!

 

This man is a raving lunatic!

 

That press conference...wow!

 

This man is a raving lunatic!

And I bet people that voted for him saw him 'telling it like it is' or some such BS.  **** this guy.

And he called the Wall Street Journal disgraceful.

 

The WSJ has caught hell in recent months for softballing Trump.

 

There is simply no way this ends well. Within the year, he's going to have enemies in every major newsroom in America.

 

And those enemies will be digging for dirt harder than ever before.

 

Sure, he'll have his Breitbarts and puppets but those agencies are irrelevant when it comes to this sort of thing anyway. They don't have the resources or integrity to break open a Watergate in the first place.

What the **** happened today?

Trump asks African-American reporter to set up meeting with black lawmakers

 

He also managed to get in a plug that he received a higher percentage of African American votes than people realized.  I bet Fred Douglas voted for him.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/donald-trump-april-ryan-congressional-black-caucus/index.html

Trump is a rambling bafoon but to Ryan's question he gave a pretty good answer I thought. I mean, "would you setup a meeting?" What more could you ask for? Now she is saying "not my job." OK, maybe it isn't but do you want there to be a meeting or not?

 

If you're not a straight white male christian, I don't think Pence is on your team.

What the heck, I don't have any points....I'm sure there are many while female Christians on Pence's team. Missionary position only.

 

Trump is a rambling bafoon but to Ryan's question he gave a pretty good answer I thought. I mean, "would you setup a meeting?" What more could you ask for? Now she is saying "not my job." OK, maybe it isn't but do you want there to be a meeting or not?

 

Maybe I am a little too biased and cynical about Trump, but I am not sure he would have asked her to set up a meeting or assumed she could set up a meeting with the Black Caucus if the reporter had been white.  

 

The caucus did reply later they did send Trump a letter to meet last month, but have not heard back from his yet.

 

If today's Christians met Jesus, they would call him a Muslim terrorist.

Nor is this an exaggeration or mischaracterization. 

What the heck, I don't have any points....I'm sure there are many while female Christians on Pence's team. Missionary position only.

Quite so. I've had the great thrill of encountering some of them on Facebook. Because of my pathological need to poke bears.

If today's Christians met Jesus, they would call him a Muslim terrorist.

Technically, it would be a Jewish terrorist, but yeah. And the difference would be attributed to lying media, anyhow.

 

Maybe I am a little too biased and cynical about Trump, but I am not sure he would have asked her to set up a meeting or assumed she could set up a meeting with the Black Caucus if the reporter had been white.  

 

The caucus did reply later they did send Trump a letter to meet last month, but have not heard back from his yet.

Without a doubt. The exchange was all kinds of cringe ("do you know them?") but at the end of the day, she is has the guy on camera asking her to setup a meeting for this group that she is asking about. She also said she'd welcome the opportunity to cover the meeting, but setting it up- that's a bridge too far! Just felt like an opportunity might have been missed there.

 

Also I skimmed the letter and I didn't find anything about asking to setup a meeting.

 

Trump is a rambling bafoon but to Ryan's question he gave a pretty good answer I thought. I mean, "would you setup a meeting?" What more could you ask for? Now she is saying "not my job." OK, maybe it isn't but do you want there to be a meeting or not?

That's not at all how it came off, it came off on "well you are black, they surely are your friends, can you set it up?" Trump lives in some la-la land where all minorities know each other, agree with each other 100% of the time and are all the same.

It's not a reporters job to set up meetings between the president and the CBC, like it's just so absurd and Trump knew exactly what he was saying/implying...basically shifting any blame to "you guys" for not setting up the meeting.

 

That's not at all how it came off, it came off on "well you are black, they surely are your friends, can you set it up?" Trump lives in some la-la land where all minorities know each other, agree with each other 100% of the time and are all the same.

It's not a reporters job to set up meetings between the president and the CBC, like it's just so absurd and Trump knew exactly what he was saying/implying...basically shifting any blame to "you guys" for not setting up the meeting.

I hope that wasn't the case. I personally didn't get that impression.

 

That's not at all how it came off, it came off on "well you are black, they surely are your friends, can you set it up?" Trump lives in some la-la land where all minorities know each other, agree with each other 100% of the time and are all the same.

It's not a reporters job to set up meetings between the president and the CBC, like it's just so absurd and Trump knew exactly what he was saying/implying...basically shifting any blame to "you guys" for not setting up the meeting.

All of this.

 

And he's a moron if he believes a reporter could and or should set up a meeting between 45 and the CBC.  He has staff to do that.  Get Bannon to do it after he takes off his white pointed hood.

 

Edited February 16, 20179 yr by jimmer

 

All of this.

 

And he's a moron if he believes a reporter could and or should set up a meeting between 45 and the CBC.  He has staff to do that.  Get Bannon to do it after he takes off his white pointed hood.

Yeah, like you can't give Trump the benefit of the doubt at this point, he literally MEANS everything he says. This isn't a guy who has a W "brain fart" He (and Moreso Bannon) know what they are doing, they realize that anyone with half a ****ing brain in this country has zero faith in him at this point (his dissaproval rating will hit 75% by end of month) so the only shot they have is to hit their rabid fan base of white supremacists, hardliner baptist types, racists, islamophobes, etc to hope that THEY keep "fighting" for him via twitter etc.

Seriously the fact that literally nobody in the GOP Is calling him out on this **** is just embarrassing as all hell.

I know the right likes to create the meme that "the left think they always have the morale high ground" but seriously....it's the truth. 

 

Death to the GOP

Murder the Government

Resist!

 

Trump is a rambling bafoon but to Ryan's question he gave a pretty good answer I thought. I mean, "would you setup a meeting?" What more could you ask for? Now she is saying "not my job." OK, maybe it isn't but do you want there to be a meeting or not?

Whaaaaat.

 

That's not reasonable at all.

 

She's a White House correspondent for a radio network. Her blackness doesn't mean she knows all other black people.

OK, beyond provoking a nuclear showdown/staredown with someone, my next biggest fear is that Trump declares martial law or something. If he and his lieutenants continue to (with a straight face) throw out whopper after whopper and now blame "the opposition" when not everyone falls in line, what is next?

 

Maybe it's only speaking to Fox and Christian networks, maybe it is passing laws or issuing executive orders to stop or cripple protests, maybe it is something else. Good lord, could we become a banana republic in less than four years?

OK, beyond provoking a nuclear showdown/staredown with someone, my next biggest fear is that Trump declares martial law or something. If he and his lieutenants continue to (with a straight face) throw out whopper after whopper and now blame "the opposition" when not everyone falls in line, what is next?

 

Maybe it's only speaking to Fox and Christian networks, maybe it is passing laws or issuing executive orders to stop or cripple protests, maybe it is something else. Good lord, could we become a banana republic in less than four years?

Say what you will about Banana republics...their holiday sales are off the chain.