Well, an injury to Nolasco (pretty sure to happen), a step back by Milone, and May will be on the front line again. We need one of those fireballers in the minors to step up.

 

 

 

Its a higher bar than you might imagine.   Very few people agree with me.

But no, its not the only requirement.   I'm not that superficial.    Looks and wealth factor in as well.

I'm getting  little off the subject.

Just want to say that Sickels used to be knowledgeable on ESPN which is good, but he claims to be a poet.

He may have written the poem called "There Once Was a Girl from Nantucket", but I have not heard of evidence of that.

Probable rotation:

Hughes

Gibson

Duffey

Milone

Nolasco

 

What the rotation should be:

Duffey

Hughes

Gibson

May

Berrios

* Milone & Nolasco to BP

 

Probable rotation:
Hughes
Gibson
Duffey
Milone
Nolasco

What the rotation should be:
Duffey
Hughes
Gibson
May
Berrios
* Milone & Nolasco to BP

I think you forgot about Ervin Santana, unless you know his PED dealer who told you he will be unavailable

Probable rotation:

Hughes

Gibson

Duffey

Milone

Nolasco

What the rotation should be:

Duffey

Hughes

Gibson

May

Berrios

* Milone & Nolasco to BP

Santana

Hughes

Gibson

Duffey

Berrios

dfa Milone

trade nolasco to nl for average relief help

may 7th inning guy

Santana

Gibson

Hughes

May

Duffey

 

Berrios at the ready (TR already declared that he still has stuff to work on)

Rogers at the ready (unless they make a determination about him in March as a RP)

 

I don't care what happens to Nolasco, though maybe he gains a few ticks in the bullpen.

And I am saying this for the 73rd time: trade Milone.

 

It isn't clear what is at all difficult about comprehending this.

I like May. I support May in the rotation. He did quite well last season, and was IMPROVING. While I think he could really help the bullpen, I just don't agree with placing him there. (Unless everyone is healthy and Berrios is ready to be up. And then, for now I guess) But I have a really hard time looking in to my old, dusty, milky, cracked crystal ball and seeing May as an all-star next season. Doesn't that just seem, oh, "sudden"?

The Sickels article, again:

 

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/9/28/9409909/unsubstantiated-prediction-trevor-may-will-be-an-all-star-starter

I agree that May could easily pitch well enough to prove he should be in the rotation, perhaps even lead it, but a problem as I see it is how pitchers are used in spring training. Often starters pitch in later innings and relievers start games, if May is pitching well and Molitor is set on putting him in the pen, Molitor is just going to say, "see how well he's pitching in relief? We can't take him out now."

The key is who's in the bullpen, not in the rotation.

 

I liked May in the rotation.  He was something the Twins haven't had:  a pitcher that has the ability to strike guys out.  And I think everyone recognizes what the problem is now:  Ryan went one step to far in the signing of veteran pitchers to bailout the starting staff.  In the bullpen, it sounds questionable whether or not any of the big arms in the MiLB can get the job done.  The combo of the 2 puts May in the bullpen.

Now if a Tonkin, Meyer, etc. takes over a couple spots, then I can't see how the Twins could keep May out of the rotation. 

 

Santana

Gibson

Hughes

May

Duffey

 

Is that wishful thinking or is it what the Twins would do?

 

My wishful thinking (with the players they have) :

 

Meyer

Berrios

Gibson
May

Santana

 

what the Twins will do:

Santana

Hughes

Gibson

Nolasco

Milone

 

Is that wishful thinking or is it what the Twins would do?

 

My wishful thinking (with the players they have) :

 

Meyer

Berrios

Gibson
May

Santana

 

what the Twins will do:

Santana

Hughes

Gibson

Nolasco

Milone

I am betting that Duffey gets the 5th spot and Milone gets traded.  Milone should have value with 3 cost controlled years.  No way they trade Duffey given his performance and years of control.  

 

BTW ... I would not bet much.  It's just a hunch.

I think you forgot about Ervin Santana, unless you know his PED dealer who told you he will be unavailable

Oh yeah, DUH!

What the rotation should be:

Santana

Duffey

Hughes

Gibson

May

 

* Nolasco to BP

* Milone to BP

* Berrios waiting in the wings

I'll say it again--why the hue and cry to trade Tommy Milone? He is the most consistent starter the Twins have (worst ERA+ 90), he's experienced, under 30 and under team control. I get that we all want to see Nolasco gone, he's been ineffective and injured for two years, he's 33 and he makes three times as much money as Milone will next year, but Milone is decent and will continue to have value as long as he's decent. Every team goes through starters in the course of a year. Unless the Twins could get something substantial back that can help them this year, they should hang on to Tommy Milone.

 

Is that wishful thinking or is it what the Twins would do?

 

My wishful thinking (with the players they have) :

 

Meyer

Berrios

Gibson
May

Santana

 

what the Twins will do:

Santana

Hughes

Gibson

Nolasco

Milone

 

 

I don't think it's unreasonable thinking.  My opinion is that Santana Hughes & Gibson are locks and solid starters.  Hughes will be better this season there is no question in my mind.

 

Nolasco is on the block.  He might have a chance in ST to redeem himself if Ryan can't move him immediately, but I have a feeling that if Duffey, May & Milone out perform him, he's in the back of the pen.

 

Meyer is off the radar IMO.  He will have to fight his way back in AAA before having a shot at a rotation spot.  Earliest I see that happening is mid 2017 with a solid full season at Rochester.

 

That leads me to Milone and Gibson.  Both are cost controlled and solid mid to back rotation starters.  I would be listening to trade offers and offering them as potential chips.  I am also of the opinion that Milone has value as a left hand bullpen specialist that we are searching for, assuming he will accept the assignment.  We don't HAVE to have a lefty starter.  

 

That opens the way for May who should be a starter and Berrios.  If either one falters you still have Milone and Rogers who by all accounts is a solid prospect.

Edited December 23, 201510 yr by laloesch

May to the bullpen would be absurd. I don't believe Molitor truly wants him there, but he's realizing that's the only option Ryan will give him. To my knowledge, before last season May has never pitched in relief. Atleast not for many years. And he's not a failed starter. He's shown promise. It's Ryan's duty to do whatever he has to do to put the best five in the rotation and THEN assemble a competent bullpen around that. May is in the top 5. Putting him in the bullpen is a disservice to the team, and a disservice to the KID. He's done nothing to earn this demotion. I rarely support a player who creates waves, but May and his agent have a legitimate beef if he's forced to the bullpen. I couldn't blame him if he requested a trade.

Welcome to TD Burt! The thing about Trevor May is that he hasn't been a top-flight starter, he projects to be one of the Twins' top five and he has exhibited tools that indicate he could be very good. The performance hasn't been there. Further, I wouldn't consider a move to the bullpen a "demotion", it would be putting May in a role to best help the team win. He's not in a position to gripe at this point.

 

May to the bullpen would be absurd. I don't believe Molitor truly wants him there, but he's realizing that's the only option Ryan will give him. To my knowledge, before last season May has never pitched in relief. Atleast not for many years. And he's not a failed starter. He's shown promise. It's Ryan's duty to do whatever he has to do to put the best five in the rotation and THEN assemble a competent bullpen around that. May is in the top 5. Putting him in the bullpen is a disservice to the team, and a disservice to the KID. He's done nothing to earn this demotion. I rarely support a player who creates waves, but May and his agent have a legitimate beef if he's forced to the bullpen. I couldn't blame him if he requested a trade.

this.  100%.