Angels traded Aybar too. So they are definitely expecting to land a 3b via trade.

They traded Aybar (and prospects) for a better SS in Simmons. If anything, it probably cuts into their willingness to surrender more talent/prospects to address 3B.

Not sure if serious, but since others are taking it seriously -- if the Padres think they can utilize Plouffe, Suzuki, and Nolasco the next 2 years, they're not shedding Kimbrel.

Nope not real serious but this is "predict the next trade" so I threw something out there.

 

They traded Aybar (and prospects) for a better SS in Simmons. If anything, it probably cuts into their willingness to surrender more talent/prospects to address 3B.

Best defensive shortstop in the game.  Braves fans will likely miss him.

Plouffe is the next trade.  Wishin' and a hope'n. Seriously, there is no reason to continue to cling to Plouffe like he is some Rare Earth Mineral.   I think the Twins take prospects for Plouffe.  

The Twins need to learn to say "Au Revoir " to their OK players when they get too expensive and  try to replace with higher quality.  There definitely is a perception that "home-grown" is better and that's all too often not the case.

I only wish we could trade Hicks twice.

Brian Dozier for Andrew Miller. Might be a few prospects from each side thrown in.

Oswaldo Arcia and a top RP prospect to the Brewers for Will Smith. Brewers will hope Arcia can learn hitting discipline from his little brother. RP prospect would have to be pretty substantial - one of the "big three". Twins get a LRP they don't have in their system. Twins may have to include a very young prospect as well.

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I don't get why the Padres would do that. They are literally giving up the 3 best players in that trade.

I think you might have your Uptons mixed up. SD only has the bad one under contract, a contract that rivals Nolasco's regretfullnes.

 

Brian Dozier for Andrew Miller. Might be a few prospects from each side thrown in.

 

I think the Twins would have to give them the better prospects. Not often I'd say the RP trumps the solid position player but Miller is special. Three more years of control at $9M/yr.

 

Too bad... can't see TR making this one work.

I think you might have your Uptons mixed up. SD only has the bad one under contract, a contract that rivals Nolasco's regretfullnes.

Taking on the Upton contract may be the only way to get out from under the Nolasco contract. Nolasco might be ok in that park and the NL.

 

Gibson, Arcia for Jay Bruce and Chapman (and a prospect)

there is NO way that we could get Chapman for Gibson, and no way Arcia is equal to Jay bruce.

I think you might have your Uptons mixed up. SD only has the bad one under contract, a contract that rivals Nolasco's regretfullnes.

The Twins aren't that desperate to get rid of Nolasco by taking on Melvin Upton's atrocious contract are they?

now that the Angels unloaded for Simmons i highly doubt they do the same for plouffe

Just no way to pick the exact specifics, but I believe we will make a move for a really nice back of the bullpen arm. A trio of Perkins, Jepson and "TBD" could do wonders for the bullpen.

 

I have to say, Plouffe to the Angels makes a lot of sense.

 

The Twins have been tied to Storen, from the Nationals, at various times previously. He seems to have fallen out of favor there, for whatever reason. I don't think Plouffe fits there however. Not entirely sure what does. But it would seem they may be interested in pitching. Something like Nolasco, Milone and Burdi plus cash work?

 

This is a hard question to answer because I automatically think of trades that will actually help the club, so I'm already at a huge disadvantage when predicting a Ryan trade. :-)

Do you actually believe the Hicks trade won't help the club next year and in the future?

 

Just no way to pick the exact specifics, but I believe we will make a move for a really nice back of the bullpen arm. A trio of Perkins, Jepson and "TBD" could do wonders for the bullpen.

I have to say, Plouffe to the Angels makes a lot of sense.

The Twins have been tied to Storen, from the Nationals, at various times previously. He seems to have fallen out of favor there, for whatever reason. I don't think Plouffe fits there however. Not entirely sure what does. But it would seem they may be interested in pitching. Something like Nolasco, Milone and Burdi plus cash work?

you realize free agent relievers don't cost us good players.. don't trade for one when the market is open with a bunch of them

Maybe the Angels feel Kubitza is ready?

 

Do you actually believe the Hicks trade won't help the club next year and in the future?

My post was a joke, but in this case, no I don't think this trade was good for us.  Hoping I'm wrong.

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I think you might have your Uptons mixed up. SD only has the bad one under contract, a contract that rivals Nolasco's regretfullnes.

Upton only has 2 years left on his deal, just like Nolasco. And Upton was actually good in limited time last year, not sure it will last but his power was back so he may not be awful the next two years.

 

The way Nolasco's season ended (injury and the ineffective comeback), I might say Melvin Upton is a little more tradeable at the moment. (Meaning, the Padres may not have to eat as much money to unload him, if they so desired.)

 

I don't think they'd trade him straight up for Nolasco right now. They seem to have no trouble finding pitchers and attracting them to Petco. And maybe Upton is the rare guy who can hit for power there.

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The Twins aren't that desperate to get rid of Nolasco by taking on Melvin Upton's atrocious contract are they?

See my post above.

Oswaldo Arcia and a top RP prospect to the Brewers for Will Smith. Brewers will hope Arcia can learn hitting discipline from his little brother. RP prospect would have to be pretty substantial - one of the "big three". Twins get a LRP they don't have in their system. Twins may have to include a very young prospect as well.

Brewers have literally no place to play Oswaldo right now, they have both corner OF spots locked in and several of their top prospects are big league ready OFers. And Oswaldo is obviously out of options.

 

They like many other teams might grab him for free on waivers if the opportunity arose, but he just isn't contributing value to a trade with them right now.

 

Brewers have literally no place to play Oswaldo right now, they have both corner OF spots locked in and several of their top prospects are big league ready OFers. And Oswaldo is obviously out of options.

They like many other teams might grab him for free on waivers if the opportunity arose, but he just isn't contributing value to a trade with them right now.

Agreed. I should've said that Ryan would trade a top RP prospect and a 2nd prospect for Smith. Arcia would be added as a flier for the Brewers. Just needed to take a sideways jab at Oswaldo compared to his brother.

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If I had to pick an outfielder to trade away, Hicks made the most sense to me, so I'm not terribly upset over that at the moment.

 

If I have to pick an infielder to trade away for any type of reasonable return, Plouffe makes the most sense to me. I'd rather Sano play 3rd base, than keep Plouffe and move Sano to the outfield. Which brings up my next point.

 

If I had to pick a positional FA to sign other than a pitcher, Denard Span makes the most sense to me because he fills two needs (bona fide outfielder and lead off hitter). Not to mention the fact that he is a familiar face. The Twins have been looking for a lead off hitter ever since Span was traded away and now that both Hunter and Hicks are gone, it only leaves Rosario in the outfield with Buxton and Kepler as possibilities, but also players who are also likely to start the season in AAA.

 

I'm pretty much open to trading away most of our pitchers and am open to trading for any pitcher who will improve the team. On that note, I am also open to signing any FA pitchers who will improve upon the current staff. I think this is a very important area to improve upon if the Twins want to take another step forward next year.

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Trevor Plouffe for a mediocre reliever.

If I had to pick a positional FA to sign other than a pitcher, Denard Span makes the most sense to me because he fills two needs (bona fide outfielder and lead off hitter). Not to mention the fact that he is a familiar face. The Twins have been looking for a lead off hitter ever since Span was traded away and now that both Hunter and Hicks are gone, it only leaves Rosario in the outfield with Buxton and Kepler as possibilities, but also players who are also likely to start the season in AAA.

FYI, last I heard Span had surgery which will likely cause him to be out past opening day, probably why the Nationals didn't make him a QO.

Trevor Plouffe, Steve Mura & Al Olmstead to the Cardinals for Sixto Lezcano, Luis DeLeon and Gary Templeton.

 

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Agreed. I should've said that Ryan would trade a top RP prospect and a 2nd prospect for Smith.

Also note that Smith still has 4 years of team control left. That 2nd prospect would have to be pretty darn good to pry him from the Brewers right now, because our top RP prospects have looked more like suspects lately (or we'd probably be counting on them to help in 2016).

 

Also note that Smith still has 4 years of team control left. That 2nd prospect would have to be pretty darn good to pry him from the Brewers right now, because our top RP prospects have looked more like suspects lately (or we'd probably be counting on them to help in 2016).

 

You're right, it would need to be a good prospect. Would be nice if you would tell me who it would be.

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You're right, it would need to be a good prospect. Would be nice if you would tell me who it would be.

Not sure. Meyer? Gonsalves? It would basically be the headliner, given our RP prospects. But maybe the Brewers hold on to Smith to bolster a much larger deal, like for Lucroy. (Like the Phillies did with Diekman and Hamels too.)

 

The Brewers are in a weird place. Pretty bad last year, and in a very tough division, but they've got Braun, a few other decent guys, the younger Arcia on the rise, Lucroy for another couple years -- not sure what their plan is, but we haven't seen any aggressive selling yet (Gomez was nearing his walk year, etc.).

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Not sure. Meyer? Gonsalves? It would basically be the headliner, given our RP prospects. But maybe the Brewers hold on to Smith to bolster a much larger deal, like for Lucroy.

The Brewers are in a weird place. Pretty bad last year, and in a very tough division, but they've got Braun, a few other decent guys, the younger Arcia on the rise, Lucroy for another couple years -- not sure what their plan is, but we haven't seen any aggressive selling yet (Gomez was nearing his walk year, etc.).

Meyer?  You're cracking me up spy.  :-)