So the point of this thread is that Gibson (and Baker IMO) contributing next year isn't out of the question.

July 18

 

Gibson allows double/single to first 2 batters in GCL Rehab start.

 

then 4 straight ground outs, a soft liner to SS and another ground out.

 

2IP 2H/2R

Further evidence that Liriano isn't a great example of a pitcher that struggled because of TJ?

Liriano's struggles have 100% been due to command ......not the TJ surgery.

 

Terry Ryan said Gibson may have 1 (today) or 2 more GCL outings before heading to Ft Myers. He also debunked my thought that Gibson could earn a Sept callup to get himself more innings......thought was right tho as they will send him to instructional league to get more Sept innings & if all goes well, the AFL in Oct to get him around 75 IP he hopes.

Gibson maybe being able to make the starting rotation next year after coming off a severe arm surgery is just like making a trade.

My prediction for next spring is Gibson goes to ROC for a month & after that he's the first one recalled.

Blackburn, due only to money, is the 5th starter---team will say he's throwing like he did 3 yrs ago---but will get bludgeoned again by mid/late May & we see Gibson around June 1.....give or take. It will allow the team to monitor his innings in AAA & not create a panic if he has a bad outing.

My prediction for next spring is Gibson goes to ROC for a month & after that he's the first one recalled.

Blackburn, due only to money, is the 5th starter---team will say he's throwing like he did 3 yrs ago---but will get bludgeoned again by mid/late May & we see Gibson around June 1.....give or take. It will allow the team to monitor his innings in AAA & not create a panic if he has a bad outing.

This. And its the right way to handle the situation. Because of the contract Blackburn will get one more chance and Gibson does need to have his innings monitored.

Gibson maybe being able to make the starting rotation next year after coming off a severe arm surgery is just like making a trade.

This is the dumbest comment I have heard in a while. That is just a cheap team's excuse for not signing someone when they bring someone up through the system to plug a hole. The Twins are no longer a small market team and need to quit pretending so they can make the leap back to actually contending again in the future.

Before calling someone's comment dumb, you should probably read their posts more closely to see if they're being snarky or not.

 

I'm about 109% sure that edavis was joking with that comment.

Gibson maybe being able to make the starting rotation next year after coming off a severe arm surgery is just like making a trade.

You beat me to it.

I don't think that the Twins would start the season with Gibson in the rotation. I do think that he will be close to ready and could still be the first to be promoted.

Righthander Kyle Gibson, on the comeback trail from Tommy John elbow ligament replacement surgery, threw a six-pitch scoreless inning on Saturday for the Gulf Coast League Twins in a 5-1 loss to the GCL Red Sox in Fort Myers, Fla., then threw about 15 more pitches in the bullpen.

Gibson Tuesday (7/24)

 

2 perfect innings for GCL

3 groundouts/1 flyout/2Ks

Gibson Tuesday (7/24)

 

2 perfect innings for GCL

3 groundouts/1 flyout/2Ks

I cannot wait for Gibson to be in a Twins uniform. Outside of Kyle and Hendriks, there isn't much pitching help on the way in the next two years.

I cannot wait for Gibson to be in a Twins uniform. Outside of Kyle and Hendriks, there isn't much pitching help on the way in the next two years.

Truly one of the few things to get excited about right now other than the trade deadline.

Very cool. I would hope ftl is coming soon for him.

I bet they try to get him up to 75 pitches before sneding him to Fort Myers.

Gibson tweeted today that he'll be making four more GCL appearances before being sent to an affiliate... which I would assume would be Ft. Myers to start with.

What are the chances Gibson could make an appearance for the Twins this year as a September call-up?

What are the chances Gibson could make an appearance for the Twins this year as a September call-up?

He's not on the 40 man, so I'd say pretty low. I know it's just a roster move, but it's enough to make the Twins poo-poo the idea.

If they were a contender and they needed an arm then maybe but just let him go to the AFL and don't start the clock.

What are the chances Gibson could make an appearance for the Twins this year as a September call-up?

He has to be added following the season anyway, so there is a chance. I think he'd have to pitch really well for the Twins to consider the September call up, and even then they might not because they want him to pitch in the Arizona Fall League to get some extra innings. It'll be interesting to see how much they push him. So far, all has gone really well, no set backs. Hopefully that continues. He knew the Strasburg path from a year earlier, and he's been able to stay on that same path.

I don't think his clock would start because you need a certain amount of IP or PA for that to happen right? Even if they had him make a few starts, I don't think he would come near that number. I think it will depend on how he does and if the Twins think he can compete for the starting rotation out of spring training.

Service time accumulates every day you're on the active roster.

Service time accumulates every day you're on the active roster.

Right, but what you're really worried about when bringing up a prospect is having them become a super 2 with arb. I forget the exact qualifying numbers, but bringing them up in september would have little impact on it if the Twins plan to have him in the rotation from day 1 next year. If they don't, then there isn't much of a point to have him up unless they let him start.

3 innings today (7/31) for Gibson in the GCL

 

H/7K

No idea why he is still in the gcl at this point. Not sure I understand the thinking. He throwing the same way in either league, right?

No idea why he is still in the gcl at this point. Not sure I understand the thinking. He throwing the same way in either league, right?

Good question and there is a method to the madness and a lot of players at other levels rehab at Fort Myers at the GCL league versus the FSL (high A - Miracle). Has to do with the time of the games and the level of the competition, but mainly the first. Games start in the morning. Usually 10AM sometimes 9:30. They are in a side ballpark with little league type stands and are free to watch. So no pressure and not 4-5000 people. And no heat and humidity. Also the competition is much much less, so you achieve successes and build on them. Might get to NB next I suspect.

No idea why he is still in the gcl at this point. Not sure I understand the thinking. He throwing the same way in either league, right?

I suspect they don't want him to overthrow yet so they'll keep him playing against lesser competition for a bit. They don't want him to be tempted to put a little extra on something or try and spin a pitch with a little extra on it. They just want him to get back in the swing of things and he can wait a bit before worrying about the level of competition. They'll probably send him to AFL.

No idea why he is still in the gcl at this point. Not sure I understand the thinking. He throwing the same way in either league, right?

Reason for rehabbing in the GCL is twofold. First, rehab is designated as just that. The lower caliber player allows for rehabbing player to focus more on the process and not get as caught up in the results (human nature). 2nd, gametimes being earlier in the day allow for easier postgame rehab (including add'l exercises and treament).

Correct, they need to respect the process... they need to be patient and cautious... he's been on pace as planned, no set backs... need to think big picture.