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What a James Shields Trade Could Look Like

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Hedges was #23 by Baseball Prospectus.  #51 by MLB.com, and unranked by BA (dropping him from #27 the previous year to completely out of their top 100).

 

Not sure what that means.  The fact that the Padres have utilized him as a sparingly-used backup this year, after only a month of AAA time, suggests they're not super-high on him either.

 

Sounds like he's their version of Kohl Stewart.  So here's the question... would you swap the too straight up?  Granted there are differences with the level they are at.  I might.  I'd have to think about it though. 

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  • I have no idea why the Twins do the first trade. They don't need another highly paid, old, veteran, number 3/4 pitcher.   the second trade is only interesting because the Twins might get a catcher....

  • Cap'n Piranha
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    Both trades are awful.  The Twins actually have a fair amount of intriguing young arms at or near MLB right now (May, Gibson, Duffey, Berrios, Milone), with a solid passel potentially 2-3 years away (

  • Cap'n Piranha
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    Shields (out of 83 qualified pitchers) is 52nd in ERA, 62nd in WHIP, 65th in FIP, 69th in WAR, and 81st in bb/9.  Which of those numbers screams "one of the best starting pitchers in baseball" to you?

 

Twins traded zero players to get him, did not already have 6-8 SP on the roster......indeed, they signed him to one of the biggest FA deals ever. I think Morris is more comparable to Price or Greinke this year......not to trading for Shields.

 

I would not be opposed to signing an elite player to an elite deal*

 

I think Morris has no contemporary comparable as the Twins only had him for one year.  At the time it was infuriating when he left but we weren't as wise about pitching declines back then.  He was almost exactly league average in 1992 and then completely collapsed in 1993.

 

Start the young guys.  All of them.

The fact that the Padres have utilized him as a sparingly-used backup this year, after only a month of AAA time, suggests they're not super-high on him either.

Or, he's only 22 years old and in the major leagues, and the Padres are utilizing him as a defense specialist and breaking him in slowly at bat.

Or, he's only 22 years old and in the major leagues, and the Padres are utilizing him as a defense specialist and breaking him in slowly at bat.

That would be really unusual usage. This isn't getting his feet wet as a backup for month, he has been in the role for almost 5 months now, after only a month at AAA.

 

I can't think of any modern day top prospects deployed in that manner. They are using him like a Rule 5 pick.

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That would be really unusual usage. This isn't getting his feet wet as a backup for month, he has been in the role for almost 5 months now, after only a month at AAA.

 

I can't think of any modern day top prospects deployed in that manner. They are using him like a Rule 5 pick.

Conversely, teams don't usually spend a roster spot on a 22 year old if they aren't pretty high on him. Super-high, I don't know. :)

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Not that this really matters but, according to mlb.com, here are Austin Hedges' defensive tools:

 

Arm: 65/80

Fielding: 65/80

 

And Stuart Turner's:

 

Arm: 60/80

Fielding: 60/80

 

Just something to think about...

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