July 1, 201511 yr My guess Santana to the TwinsHicks to the Twins Aaron Thompson to RochesterSano to Rochester That's it for a while With Santana not pitching til the 5th, doesn't really make sense to have him tie up a roster spot for 3 days.
July 1, 201511 yr With Santana not pitching til the 5th, doesn't really make sense to have him tie up a roster spot for 3 days. Plus he's not even eligible to join the team until July 4th.
July 1, 201511 yr AA? Why AA? Vargas had a 130 wRC+ in AA last year, identical to his mark in high-A the year prior (and with better K and BB rates in AA). And he had a 165 wRC+ in his brief AAA sample this year (albeit with a higher K rate).Its almost like he's in the doghouse, but who knows for sure. Maybe they want him to see the AA coach or something.
July 1, 201511 yr Often players are sent AA rather than AAA, because the bitter attitudes of some of the ex-MLB players at AAA may be toxic to genuine prospects.I doubt a demotion from MLB to AA happens "often" after a player has 400 MLB PA and some AAA experience, although I am sure it's not unprecedented.
July 1, 201511 yr A bit of a surprise to me. I wonder if Kenny had some words when he was pinch hit for today.
July 1, 201511 yr Also with the Twins going promotion crazy this year I bet it is Sano, any other year I'd say Hicks.
July 1, 201511 yr Also with the Twins going promotion crazy this year I bet it is Sano, any other year I'd say Hicks. Arcia's bat has finally come to life...
July 1, 201511 yr I doubt a demotion from MLB to AA happens "often" after a player has 400 MLB PA and some AAA experience, although I am sure it's not unprecedented. For the Twins definitely not unprecedented... Hicks. I guess Vargas is moving down to Hicks prospect status now. Give it another year, and odds are he gets "Ortized."
July 1, 201511 yr They have to make a s[pot for Ervin. They have no third baseman OR first baseman at Rochester right The Twins don't have a centerfielder.now.
July 1, 201511 yr Also with the Twins going promotion crazy this year I bet it is Sano, any other year I'd say Hicks. If the Robinson injury is serious at all, they need another OF up with the club. Thus I would put money on Hicks before Sano.
July 1, 201511 yr They have to make a s[pot for Ervin. They have no third baseman OR first baseman at Rochester right The Twins don't have a centerfielder.now. Except for Rosario and Santana Edited July 1, 201511 yr by jokin
July 1, 201511 yr I'm starting to think that the move is:Demote Vargas, call up Sano.Put Robinson on 15 day DL and activate Hicks. However, if Sano is headed to 3B at AAA after Wheeler's departure, then who takes DH? Perhaps Kepler or Walker get called up (if Walker, then Nolasco goes to the 60 day DL to make room on the 40 man). EDIT: It's been confirmed by several tweets. Sano is coming up. Edited July 1, 201511 yr by Danchat
July 1, 201511 yr @RhettBollinger: Just heard from a well-placed source that Miguel Sano will be getting the call up to the Twins.
July 1, 201511 yr For the Twins definitely not unprecedented... Hicks. I guess Vargas is moving down to Hicks prospect status now. Give it another year, and odds are he gets "Ortized." Yeah, our favorite team has done that historically every 13 years. Edited July 1, 201511 yr by howieramone2
July 1, 201511 yr Yeah, our favorite team has done that historically every 13 years.Well, actually they've sent someone all the way down to AA two years in a row. And they haven't had someone else who's game resembled Ortiz's, so the comps are entirely accurate. Edited July 1, 201511 yr by ChiTownTwinsFan
July 1, 201511 yr Option A 1. Dozier2. Mauer3. Hunter4. Sano5. Plouffe6. Rosario7. Suzuki8. Hicks9. Santana Option B 1. Hicks2. Mauer3. Dozier4. Hunter5. Plouffe6. Sano7. Rosario8. Suzuki9. Santana Option C(Sano may see more fastballs this way)1. Hicks2. Dozier3. Hunter4. Plouffe5. Sano6. Mauer7. Rosario8. Suzuki9. Santana
July 1, 201511 yr Well, actually they've sent someone all the way down to AA two years in a row. And they haven't had someone who's game resembled Ortiz's, so the comps are entirely accurate.The Ortiz deal was 13 years ago.
July 1, 201511 yr yeah, I think this is Sano. Not sure why they sent Vargas down to AA, but who knows. It's probably the roster move that doesn't strain too many of Terry Ryan's brain cells. Because sending Vargas to AAA, sending a AAA player to AA and calling up Sano involves too much thinking. I mean the only other, but not very logical reason would be to send Vargas a message. I don't what that would be, he doesn't seem like the kind that goofs off, he just can't hit major league pitching.
July 1, 201511 yr Ervin is back, they are going with all pitchers, that or Kepler or sano..... 14 man staff. It's the new thing. MOAR PITCHERS!
July 1, 201511 yr Just looking at box scores from this past week, Rochester is still giving lots of corner OF / 1B / DH playing time to Wilkin Ramirez, Reynaldo Rodriguez, Eric Farris, Nate Hanson, and Jose Martinez, all age 28 or older, all with OPS's .720 or lower. Seems like there is plenty of room to play Vargas, Sano, Kepler, Hicks, and Arcia there, if so desired. Think of all those roster moves that would have to be made though! So much work.
July 1, 201511 yr For the Twins definitely not unprecedented... Hicks. I guess Vargas is moving down to Hicks prospect status now. Give it another year, and odds are he gets "Ortized." It's not that Vargas was ever much of a prospect. His best defensive position has always been DH, he was old for each of the minor league levels, IIRC, and never showed much game power.
July 1, 201511 yr The Ortiz deal was 13 years ago. The people who made that mistake are still in charge now. That's why this is relevant. Also, unicorns aren't real.
July 1, 201511 yr The Ortiz deal was 13 years ago. The people who made that mistake are still in charge now. That's why this is relevant. Also, unicorns aren't real. And Terry has called that move 13 years ago the biggest blunder in his GM career.
July 1, 201511 yr You can continue talking about Vargas here, but to talk about the Sano call up, redirect to here: http://twinsdaily.com/topic/18973-article-twins-to-call-up-miguel-sano/ And let's move on from the rehashing of the Ortiz mistake. Thanks!
July 1, 201511 yr Sano Called up: http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-twins-lose-2-1-to-reds-with-reserve-filled-lineup/311269081/ In KC tomorrow. Edited July 1, 201511 yr by HitInAPinch
July 1, 201511 yr Bummer. Vargas is better than AA competition, for sure.That's probably the reason he was sent there
July 1, 201511 yr Sano Called up: http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-twins-lose-2-1-to-reds-with-reserve-filled-lineup/311269081/ In KC tomorrow.You can discuss Sano's call up here:http://twinsdaily.com/topic/18973-article-twins-to-call-up-miguel-sano/ Use this thread to continue to discuss Vargas.
July 2, 201511 yr With Wheeler being released with the Berrios call up and Robinson being hurt today....my guesses: Robinson to the DLHicks to the TwinsArcia to the TwinsSano to AAAKepler to AAAWas Wheeler actually released, or simply demoted to the Lookouts?
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