Chris Young DFA'ed

[Mill1634]

Chris Young was DFA'ed last night.  I understand that we aren't going to win the division or make the playoffs.  But I think the Twins should pick him up.  We picked up Schafer and he is a worse hitter.  There is no reason we can't DFA Schafer and pick up Chris Young. He is batting .205 with 8 HR and 7 SB.  What do you guys think?

[minn55441]

I believe he will turn 31 in September.  We are now officially in a youth movement.  Doesn't fit into those plans.

[stringer bell]

Not the worst idea IMHO. There should be a number of Chris Youngs and Schafers available in the off-season. I certainly would take a flyer on a couple of them. Currently, Twins outfielders for next year figure to be Parmelee, Arcia, Hicks and/or Santana. Certainly, not a contending team's OF.

[Mill1634]

Not the worst idea IMHO. There should be a number of Chris Youngs and Schafers available in the off-season. I certainly would take a flyer on a couple of them. Currently, Twins outfielders for next year figure to be Parmelee, Arcia, Hicks and/or Santana. Certainly, not a contending team's OF.

I think that Young is a better stop-gap OF then Parmalee.  

[Thrylos]

Dumpster diving is a sign of a bad team that does not want to improve.  Young is better than Schafer and this does not say too much.  Here are some numbers:

 

Schafar:  Braves: .163/.256/.213, Twins: .222/.222/.222

Young: Mets: .205/.283/.346

 

Aaron Hicks: Twins: .198/.338/.262, AA: .297/.404/.466, AAA: .286/.375/.714

 

So, if you are going to substitute a player who has been performed as good as Hicks did when he was sent down, for a player who has done worse than Hicks at the MLB level this season,  and this player, unlike Hicks, has reached his peak and will not improve enough to be part of the future, why don't you just bring up Hicks, who has been raking in the minors?

 

Rhetorical question, but that is what they should do instead of (more) dumpster diving..

[Mill1634]

Dumpster diving is a sign of a bad team that does not want to improve.  Young is better than Schafer and this does not say too much.  Here are some numbers:

 

Schafar:  Braves: .163/.256/.213, Twins: .222/.222/.222

Young: Mets: .205/.283/.346

 

Aaron Hicks: Twins: .198/.338/.262, AA: .297/.404/.466, AAA: .286/.375/.714

 

So, if you are going to substitute a player who has been performed as good as Hicks did when he was sent down, for a player who has done worse than Hicks at the MLB level this season,  and this player, unlike Hicks, has reached his peak and will not improve enough to be part of the future, why don't you just bring up Hicks, who has been raking in the minors?

 

Rhetorical question, but that is what they should do instead of (more) dumpster diving..

Because he has to prove himself at the minors...they have gavin him at least 2 or maybe 3 good oppurtunites that he did not perform at.

[ashbury]

I think that Young is a better stop-gap OF then Parmalee.  

Young's contract ends after this season so if you were responding to views about next season he's as likely to be elsewhere as with whatever current team he winds up on.  99% of DFAs are not worth bothering with, and if an older player isn't good enough to be on the 2014 Mets I don't have much interest.  A top team DFAing someone *maybe* catches my eye.

[AWOLNATION_11]

Young also has whatever is left on $7.2 million contract.  Probably not worth the cash.

[kab21]

Just because Hicks would be better than Schafer or CBY doesn't mean that he should be promoted to a backup role instead of getting AB's in the minors.  It's pretty clear that Hicks still has work to do in the minors.

 

I could care less if they swapped Schafer for CBY.  It literally doesn't matter at all as long as they sparingly play either of them. 

[Kwak]

Most shiny things in the garbage belong there--so, No, don't pick him up.

[Brock Beauchamp]

I could care less if they swapped Schafer for CBY. It literally doesn't matter at all as long as they sparingly play either of them.

I would go as far to say that either could be replaced with a statue of Carl Pohlad and I wouldn't give a damn. It's that unimportant.

[TheLeviathan]

Look at him as an option this summer. The team needs a viable non-Hicks/Buxton plan but one they are comfortable sliding out when the kids are ready. That might be a Young or Rasmus or whomever....but let's not pretend a warm body capable of playing CF isn't a necessity.

 

Maybe we could then play our shortstops at, I don't know, shortstop perhaps.

[Brandon]

If I were Curt, Minnesota would be one of my top destination choices even if I had to go down to the minors for a few weeks as for this year and next they have one of the best opportunities available to re-establish value. 

 

As far as the Twins interest in Curt.....can he catch the ball?  If he is a solid CF I am ok with throwing him into the mix with Parmelee and Schafer to compete for playing time/ back up as long as it doesn't cost a lot.  

[jorgenswest]

It is important that the Twins have an adequate fourth OF next year. Signing Schafer decreases the chance that they will seek an adequate solution in the winter. I would DFA Schafer when Mauer returns.

 

Shortstop is a difficult position to play. Santana has put in little work at SS. At this point, it would be far better to see what he can do in the spring at SS and keep him working in CF. If he doesn't do well now at SS, it will just be written off to being in CF and nothing will be learned.

[ScrapTheNickname]

Most shiny things in the garbage belong there--so, No, don't pick him up.

"Most shiny things in the garbage belong there."

Nice sentence.

[Craig Arko]

"Most shiny things in the garbage belong there."

Nice sentence.

It's just a tad unfortunate to describe people that way.

[ashbury]

It's just a tad unfortunate to describe people that way.

How do you feel about "isn't good enough to be on the 2014 Mets"?

[Craig Arko]

How do you feel about "isn't good enough to be on the 2014 Mets"?

It's both more accurate and not as, what is the term, disrespectful.

[Danchat]

I think that Young is a better stop-gap OF then *Parmalee.  

 

I don't think so. Parmelee has actually started to hit a little bit. His .260 with 6 HRs and adequate defense beats Chris Young's poor batting average. I don't think there's any need to replace Schafer with a guy who is marginally better.

 

*It's spelled Parmelee.

[Mill1634]

I don't think so. Parmelee has actually started to hit a little bit. His .260 with 6 HRs and adequate defense beats Chris Young's poor batting average. I don't think there's any need to replace Schafer with a guy who is marginally better.

 

*It's spelled Parmelee.

Get used to ppl spelling wrong...

[Craig Arko]

Get used to ppl spelling wrong...

It gets really comical when they try to do long division, too.

[Winston Smith]

But can he play shortstop?

[Kwak]

It is important that the Twins have an adequate fourth OF next year. Signing Schafer decreases the chance that they will seek an adequate solution in the winter. I would DFA Schafer when Mauer returns.

 

Shortstop is a difficult position to play. Santana has put in little work at SS. At this point, it would be far better to see what he can do in the spring at SS and keep him working in CF. If he doesn't do well now at SS, it will just be written off to being in CF and nothing will be learned.

The Twins aren't in need of a #4 OF, or a #4 at any position--they need #1s--a #1 OF, etc.  These are the types of players that truly positively impact a team's performance.  And, no, it doesn't matter how said #1 player is acquired at this point in time.

[Kirby_waved_at_me]

I think Chris Young only makes sense to the Twins in the offseason as a minor league free agent. If the Twins are looking to add OF depth for the rest of this season, they can always bring Hicks up again.

 

Adding Young now doesn't solve any issues that the Twins currently have, and I don't think it helps them win in the short term either. They are better off rolling with the current lineup and giving as many ABs as possible to Parmelee, Santana, and Arcia (when healthy). No need to add any filler until the offseason, just give the playing time to the guys who are already here and decide after the season who stays and who goes.  

[Paul Pleiss]

Goodwill is a great place to go to find gently used things at affordable prices, and DFA'd guys can be useful, but you shouldn't try to build your team with one.(however, you probably could furnish a house shopping exclusively at Goodwill or other thirft store of your choice).

 

I don't think bringing Chris Young onto this team makes them better this season, so what's the use? Let the guys on the roster get ABs and bring up more guys from AAA to be evaluated.

 

Throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.

[teekz]

I'd rather see Jordan Schafer the rest of the year than Chris Young. Schafer is younger and more controlable. He is a good stop gap until Hicks forces himself back into a major league roll or Buxton does.

[kab21]

Jordan Schafer is not good at baseball.  He isn't a good stop gap if you mean that he should start until Bux or Hicks come up or play 2-3 times/wk. His value is backup CF'er, pinch runner and defensive replacement.  And you hope that he doesn't start many games at all.  Guys like this are freely available every offseason.

[stringer bell]

 

Jordan Schafer is not good at baseball.  He isn't a good stop gap if you mean that he should start until Bux or Hicks come up or play 2-3 times/wk. His value is backup CF'er, pinch runner and defensive replacement.  And you hope that he doesn't start many games at all.  Guys like this are freely available every offseason.

He has the one skill. So far he has hit enough to use his one skill and his defense hasn't been a glaring negative. The player we've seen is Clete Thomas + superior base stealing.

[kab21]

 

He has the one skill. So far he has hit enough to use his one skill and his defense hasn't been a glaring negative. The player we've seen is Clete Thomas + superior base stealing.

26 plate appearances don't negate the fact that he has a .517 OPS this season and .613 OPS for his career.  He's a backup that you pretty much hope you don't have to play aside from pinch running or as a defensive replacement.

[Paul Pleiss]

Clete Thomas+ is maybe not a player any organization needs to keep around at the MLB level. A great guy to stash at AAA if you can get him through waivers.